I have been put in an interesting position. As many of you know, I recently changed jobs (again). Anyway, in the process of looking for a new job, I sent my resume to a few headhunters that I've dealt with in the past. One of them called me a couple months ago and said he had a great job coming down the pipeline about 15 - 20 miles from my home. Good company, public, etc. However, as headhunters do, he didn't give me the name of the company. I told him to go ahead and send my resume. He called me on Friday and left a message saying the company was ready to move forward and they wanted to interview me. He also left the name of the company. It's a pharmaceutical company, complete with on-sight research labs.

I can't work there. I couldn't sit at my desk all day knowing that in the basement there were animals in cages being subjected to all sorts of testing.

This is the debate part - I know many of you have stated that you don't see anything wrong with animal testing, but I'm wondering if you could actually sit in the building where it's taking place day after day and just plug along at your job or it that's just too close to home.

if it makes you uncomfortable, then no you shouldnt.


me, i could sit there eating chicken mcnuggets while putting on makeup

Well, luckily I already have a new job and I really like it so there isn't any issue there. All I have to say is I found a job so thanks but no thanks.

Can you send me a picture of you with all your makeup on?

Could I work for a company that did something I thought was unethical even if I had nothing to do with it (like I was in the HR department)? I suppose I have an exponential curve on that. It depends on how unethical I view the activity and how much money I'm being offered.

If someone was kicking puppies in the basement, I'd do it for a good paycheck. If they were peeing on little babies, I probably wouldn't work their for any amount of money.

Wow. Where's tsunami when you need her...him?

this is where having no ethics makes life so much easier.

Yeah, if "she" hadn't been banned, this thread would be 8 pages by now.

Kelli, you're the only one that can make that decision. Weigh the benefits vs. detriments on your personal level.

How did you find out that animal testing was occurring?

If you have a problem with the testing the company does, I don't understand why it matters whether the testing is done on site or in another state. It sounds more like a queasiness question than an ethical question.

I might have a problem depending on what it is.

I didn't see the word "animal" in that sentence.

You're right

Oh snap. PunkD brings the noise.

He never lets me down.

There was no intent to bring any noise.

if it's that much more $ than your job you have right now then i'd take it

PD, I think you need to have a little more faith in people I'm not sure exactly why you question if PJDoll would also have a problem if the testing was done off-site. Presumably she would, where did she suggest otherwise?

Anyway, ethics at work is very important to me. I can remember when I was graduating from college (BS in Mechanical Engineering) and was talking to my parents about jobs.. My dad got frustrated with me for refusing to look into getting a job at Boewing. I just refuse to work at and support a company that builds military equipment regardless of how many engineers they employ. But I think I have a much different outlook on jobs than most people because I'm not overly concerned with them and I doubt I'll ever really have a problem finding a job I love and can ethically support. And if I can't, then I'll just go without a job for a while; money's not really a concern for me, I can get by on very little.

I sorta went off on a tangent there but I don't understand how people can rationalize working somewhere that they don't morally support. I guess most people can justify anything with money, but enjoying your work and your contribution to society is much more important, in my opinion.

True, but any company who is developing drugs is doing animal testing. It's required for FDA approval.

As for me, I couldn't work somewhere if I had ethical disagreements with what they do. I could have had the opportunity to do some pretty cool stuff with dolphins at the naval base in San Diego, but since I have trouble supporting the navy's use of the animal while they totally disregard the effect their sonar testing is having on marine mammals, I opted not to apply. On the other hand, my friend had a fantastic time there.

Thanks Stonecrest - I would have a problem either way. I guess I listed 'on-site' because it just seems that much more offensive and I was curious as to everyone else's opinion on this subject.

As I said, I'm not taking this job and I'm lucky that I have a job I really enjoy now. We manufacture software. All the testing is done with a keyboard

I agree SC, I can't work somewhere if I'm morally opposed to what they do. It would drive me insane to sit at my desk knowing that I was contributing to it for a buck.

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