I always thought the whole Saddam capture thing was rather propagandized. And now what's even more fishy is the way Amy Goodman reported it 3/10/2005 on her War&Peace report and I have yet to see any other mention of this in any major news source, online or otherwise. I am not surprised, but just saddened by this truth.

Anyone else hear about this?

Ex-Marine Claims U.S. Fabricated Capture of Saddam
Meanwhile a former Marine is claiming the U.S. fabricated how Saddam Hussein was captured and that Iraq's former leader was actually found in a village home not a hole as depicted by the U.S. military Sgt. Nadim Abou Rabeh has told a Saudi newspaper that he participated in the capture which took place in a small village near Saddam's hometown of Tikrit after an intense firefight. Rabeh claims a US military production team fabricated the film of Saddam's capture in a hole and staged it in a deserted well. Rabeh also claims the capture took place on Dec. 12 -- one day earlier than the military claimed.

Well, I'm not really worried, I'm sure our liberally biased media will be covering this in depth any time now!

It's kind of hard to believe that many Marines went along with a plot to fabricate a capture of Saddam when they already had him captured. It's a little ridiculous.

Nothing's ridiculous when it's for god and country!

Besides, I've learned it was about twenty marines that did this. Is that what you're saying by "that many"?

Yeah. 20 Marines involved in a conspiracy to stage a different way in which Saddam was captured seems not only bizarre but unnecessary. And I'm all for conspiracy theories.

waits patiently for all the naysayers to agree this is a truth. at least wait until its confirmed.

for all you know this amy could be a disgruntled soldier

It really just doesn't make sense to fabricate the capture. What about the new story is any less compelling? It wasn't like we did something horribly wrong in this guys account that we would want to cover up. If anything, the only reason to fabricate the story would be to hide the identity of a potential informat, but I still doubt it.

Remember the rescue story of Jessica Lynch?
Remember the triumphant toppling of the statue of Saddam?

I think the word you're looking for is propaganda.

Yeah, but the question we're all asking is what is LESS propaganda about your story? It would sound just as good if they captured Saddam in a house after a fierce firefight as it does to find him hiding in a hole in the ground.

Well, capturing him after a fierce fire-fight makes saddam look strong. Finding him hiding in a hole in the desert makes him look like a coward.

It's a good point. Maybe it looks the same to Americans, but we were trying to impress Iraqis.

It seems like a minor gain to risk this kind of cover up.

Especially seeing that it was Army troops that captured him. Also this unit happened to be my old Unit with the 4th ID 1st Battalion and i can assure you this was not staged as purported. Always a conspiracy theory that our government lies to us about anything and everything. I'm sure they do, i know they do being military for 8 years. I have seen them tell us the truth and yet they have a bogus report that goes out. 99% of the time its because the "standard" individual does not need to know.

Youkan

Does anybody remember the interview they had with the soldiers after they supposedly captured him? It went something like this:

Reporter: Did Saddam say anything when you aprehended him?
Soldier Guy: Yes, he said "I am Saddam Hussein, President of Iraq."
Reporter: He spoke to you in English?
Soldier Guy: Errrrrrrm, yeah.

It was obvious even then that there was some serious bull shitting going on.

As I recall, Saddam was sedated very heavily in that spider hole they found him in. It was brought up many a times that he was probably captured by other forces, be it the Kurds and they held him in that spot to get the money for his capture. He had a gun in there with him, with no bullets, and put up no fight.

Also when his Family went to see him in custody of U.S. forces, they said that the man being held as Saddam was one of the many look a like body guards that he had, used for security purposes when he was President of Iraq.

I'm on my way out, but I'll search for these stories when I get back.

I dont know you, but you are a moron.

That's not nice.

good point

Thats true, forgive me I shall rephrase it to the best of my ability.

You're a moron, but I will defend to the death your right to make an ass out of yourself.

Absolutely none of this can be substantiated, even a child can make absurd allegations, but if they cannot support them it is rather pointless to discuss them is it not?

This story, while not explicity proven wrong, seems to be bullshit.

I'm not a moron however, I initially brought all this up with a question - to ask if anyone else had seen it.

A little investigation around the 'net (for what it's worth as a news source) seems to point to the idea that there were no marines in Iraq at the time of Saddam's capture, thus making the claim seem like a bunch of lies.

Anyone else want to resort to knee-jerk name-calling?

Have at it, and count yourself in the informed company of deathbyflannel, who is clearly the winner!!!!

**Resorts back to lurking around the forum instead, where noone can call me a moron, or feel the need to defend me in making an ass of myself.**

I'll do that more quietly from now on.

Yeah, that was called for.