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U.S. misled allies about nuclear export
N. Korean material landed in Pakistan, instead of Libya
By Dafna Linzer
Updated: 12:41 a.m. ET March 20, 2005
In an effort to increase pressure on North Korea, the Bush administration told its Asian allies in briefings earlier this year that Pyongyang had exported nuclear material to Libya. That was a significant new charge, the first allegation that North Korea was helping to create a new nuclear weapons state.
But that is not what U.S. intelligence reported, according to two officials with detailed knowledge of the transaction. North Korea, according to the intelligence, had supplied uranium hexafluoride -- which can be enriched to weapons-grade uranium -- to Pakistan. It was Pakistan, a key U.S. ally with its own nuclear arsenal, that sold the material to Libya. The U.S. government had no evidence, the officials said, that North Korea knew of the second transaction.
Key details omitted
Pakistan's role as both the buyer and the seller was concealed to cover up the part played by Washington's partner in the hunt for al Qaeda leaders, according to the officials, who discussed the issue on the condition of anonymity. In addition, a North Korea-Pakistan transfer would not have been news to the U.S. allies, which have known of such transfers for years and viewed them as a business matter between sovereign states.
The Bush administration's approach, intended to isolate North Korea, instead left allies increasingly doubtful as they began to learn that the briefings omitted essential details about the transaction, U.S. officials and foreign diplomats said in interviews. North Korea responded to public reports last month about the briefings by withdrawing from talks with its neighbors and the United States.
In an effort to repair the damage, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is traveling through East Asia this weekend trying to get the six-nation talks back on track. The impasse was expected to dominate talks today in Seoul and then Beijing, which wields the greatest influence with North Korea.
The new details follow a string of controversies concerning the Bush administration's use of intelligence on weapons of mass destruction. In the run-up to the Iraq invasion in March 2003, the White House offered a public case against Iraq that concealed dissent on nearly every element of intelligence and included interpretations unsupported by the evidence.
A presidential commission studying U.S. intelligence is reviewing the case, as well as judgments on Iran and North Korea. The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence also is reviewing evidence on nuclear, chemical and biological programs suspected in Iran and North Korea.
Allies, press briefed
The United States briefed allies on North Korea in late January and early February. Shortly afterward, administration officials, speaking to The Washington Post on the condition of anonymity, said North Korea had sold uranium hexafluoride to Libya. The officials said the briefing was arranged to share the information with China, South Korea and Japan ahead of a new round of hoped-for negotiations on North Korea's nuclear program.
But in recent days, two other U.S. officials said the briefings were hastily arranged after China and South Korea indicated they were considering bolting from six-party talks on North Korea. The talks have been seen as largely ineffectual, but the Bush administration, which refuses to meet bilaterally with Pyongyang, insists they are critical to curbing North Korea's nuclear program.
The White House declined to offer an official to comment by name about the new details concerning Pakistan. A prepared response attributed to a senior administration official said that the U.S. government "has provided allies with an accurate account of North Korea's nuclear proliferation activities."
Although the briefings did not mention Pakistan by name, the official said they made it clear that the sale went through the illicit network operated by Pakistan's top nuclear scientist, Abdel Qadeer Khan. But the briefings gave no indication that U.S. intelligence believes that the material had been bought by Pakistan and transferred there from North Korea in a container owned by the Pakistani government.
Ally not held accountable
They also gave no indication that the uranium was then shipped via a Pakistani company to Dubai in the United Arab Emirates and on to Libya. Those findings match assessments by the International Atomic Energy Agency, which is investigating Libya separately. Libya gave up its nuclear weapons program in December 2003.
Since Pakistan became a key U.S. ally in the hunt for al Qaeda leaders, the administration has not held President Pervez Musharraf accountable for actions taken by Khan while he was a member of Musharraf's cabinet and in charge of nuclear cooperation for the government.
"The administration is giving Pakistan a free ride when they don't deserve it and hurting U.S. interests at the same time," said Charles L. Pritchard, who was the Bush administration's special envoy for the North Korea talks until August 2003.
"As our allies get the full picture, it doesn't help our credibility with them," he said.
Pritchard, now a Brookings Institution fellow, and others had initially raised questions about the Libya connection when it became public last month. No one in the administration has been willing to discuss the uranium sale publicly.
In testimony to Congress last month, CIA Director Porter J. Goss spoke extensively about North Korea's nuclear arsenal and capabilities. But he gave no indication the intelligence community believed that North Korea had supplied nuclear materials to Libya, that it was capable of producing uranium hexafluoride or that it was a member of the nuclear black market.
Focus on N. Korea
Two years ago, U.S. officials told allies that North Korea was trying to assemble an enrichment facility that would turn uranium hexafluoride to bomb-grade material.
But China and South Korea, in particular, have been skeptical of those assertions and are becoming increasingly wary of pressuring North Korea.
The National Security Council briefings in late January and early February, by senior NSC officials Michael J. Green and William Tobey, were intended to do just that by keeping the spotlight solely on North Korea.
Pakistan was mentioned only once in the briefing paper, and in a context that emphasized Pyongyang's guilt. "Pakistani press reports have said the uranium came from North Korea," according to the briefing paper, which was read to The Post.
After initial press reports about the briefing appeared last month, Pyongyang announced that it possessed nuclear weapons and would not return to the six-party talks.
Pritchard said North Korea's reaction was "absolutely linked" to the Green-Tobey trip.
The United States tried to persuade North Korea to return to the talks, but without success. The North Korean leadership responded with a list of conditions, including a demand that Rice apologize for calling it an "outpost of tyranny."
During the first stop on her Asian tour, Rice used noticeably softer language on North Korea, telling a Tokyo audience that the U.S. offer was open to negotiation, and that North Korean leader Kim Jong Il should grab the opportunity.
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towelie wrote:
Mitchell613 wrote:
towelie wrote:
Pakistan is the worst excuse for an "ally" that we have in the "war on terror."
next to guam
I'm gonna have to go with Pakistan still, considering Osam Bin Laden isn't living comfortably in Guam.
Usama's dead. Died back in December of 2001.
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towelie wrote:
IEB! wrote:
towelie wrote:
Mitchell613 wrote:
towelie wrote:
Pakistan is the worst excuse for an "ally" that we have in the "war on terror."
next to guam
I'm gonna have to go with Pakistan still, considering Osam Bin Laden isn't living comfortably in Guam.
Usama's dead. Died back in December of 2001.
You're delusional.
Haha, IYO. I just find it amazing how little the American public as a whole knows about Al-Qaeda and Usama. Other then the fact that we funded and trained him in the 80's to fight the Russian in Afghanistan.
The fact is the name Al-Qaeda (meaning the base) was created by the United States Government in order to try a possible terrorist. They named Bin Laden as the head of this organization, but with RICO laws that were used to prosecute the mob they needed a clear picture of how this group operated and who and how they came to be. Defectors, many just wanting amnesty and a koosh home and taxpayers money made up tons of shit about this supposive group of terrorists. Did anyone see that report last week that came out from the US Government showing absolutely no Al-Qaeda cells operating in the United States. It is so easy to blow something up, think about it. The terror that would cause from just blowing up one tiny lil grocery story would cause terror across the homeland. Yet nothing has happened since 9/11. Why? I'm sure most of you know that I am a firm believer in GOvernment complicity in the 9/11 attacks. If you'd like me to put my reasons up for that, I can. I'll give a laundry list of obvious forknowledge and blatant protocols not followed on 9/11. Including many warnings to high ranking officials to stay off flights and out of lower Manhatten on this horrible day. Not to mention the many holes that you could fly a 747 through regarding the "official" story. But no one seems to care....I don't know why I continue wasting my time explaining the obvious to many here.
_________________ "The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum." -Noam Chomsky
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IEB! wrote:
towelie wrote:
IEB! wrote:
towelie wrote:
Mitchell613 wrote:
towelie wrote:
Pakistan is the worst excuse for an "ally" that we have in the "war on terror."
next to guam
I'm gonna have to go with Pakistan still, considering Osam Bin Laden isn't living comfortably in Guam.
Usama's dead. Died back in December of 2001.
You're delusional.
Haha, IYO. I just find it amazing how little the American public as a whole knows about Al-Qaeda and Usama. Other then the fact that we funded and trained him in the 80's to fight the Russian in Afghanistan.
The fact is the name Al-Qaeda (meaning the base) was created by the United States Government in order to try a possible terrorist. They named Bin Laden as the head of this organization, but with RICO laws that were used to prosecute the mob they needed a clear picture of how this group operated and who and how they came to be. Defectors, many just wanting amnesty and a koosh home and taxpayers money made up tons of shit about this supposive group of terrorists. Did anyone see that report last week that came out from the US Government showing absolutely no Al-Qaeda cells operating in the United States. It is so easy to blow something up, think about it. The terror that would cause from just blowing up one tiny lil grocery story would cause terror across the homeland. Yet nothing has happened since 9/11. Why? I'm sure most of you know that I am a firm believer in GOvernment complicity in the 9/11 attacks. If you'd like me to put my reasons up for that, I can. I'll give a laundry list of obvious forknowledge and blatant protocols not followed on 9/11. Including many warnings to high ranking officials to stay off flights and out of lower Manhatten on this horrible day. Not to mention the many holes that you could fly a 747 through regarding the "official" story. But no one seems to care....I don't know why I continue wasting my time explaining the obvious to many here.
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Mitchell613 wrote:
towelie wrote:
Pakistan is the worst excuse for an "ally" that we have in the "war on terror."
next to guam
Guam isn't an ally. They're a US Territory. What happens in Guam, happens in the US.
Bush Pakistan!
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Pakistan is the worst excuse for an "ally" that we have in the "war on terror."
next to guam
I'm gonna have to go with Pakistan still, considering Osam Bin Laden isn't living comfortably in Guam.
Usama's dead. Died back in December of 2001.
You're delusional.
Haha, IYO. I just find it amazing how little the American public as a whole knows about Al-Qaeda and Usama. Other then the fact that we funded and trained him in the 80's to fight the Russian in Afghanistan.
The fact is the name Al-Qaeda (meaning the base) was created by the United States Government in order to try a possible terrorist. They named Bin Laden as the head of this organization, but with RICO laws that were used to prosecute the mob they needed a clear picture of how this group operated and who and how they came to be. Defectors, many just wanting amnesty and a koosh home and taxpayers money made up tons of shit about this supposive group of terrorists. Did anyone see that report last week that came out from the US Government showing absolutely no Al-Qaeda cells operating in the United States. It is so easy to blow something up, think about it. The terror that would cause from just blowing up one tiny lil grocery story would cause terror across the homeland. Yet nothing has happened since 9/11. Why? I'm sure most of you know that I am a firm believer in GOvernment complicity in the 9/11 attacks. If you'd like me to put my reasons up for that, I can. I'll give a laundry list of obvious forknowledge and blatant protocols not followed on 9/11. Including many warnings to high ranking officials to stay off flights and out of lower Manhatten on this horrible day. Not to mention the many holes that you could fly a 747 through regarding the "official" story. But no one seems to care....I don't know why I continue wasting my time explaining the obvious to many here.
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IEB! wrote:
towelie wrote:
IEB! wrote:
towelie wrote:
Mitchell613 wrote:
towelie wrote:
Pakistan is the worst excuse for an "ally" that we have in the "war on terror."
next to guam
I'm gonna have to go with Pakistan still, considering Osam Bin Laden isn't living comfortably in Guam.
Usama's dead. Died back in December of 2001.
You're delusional.
Haha, IYO. I just find it amazing how little the American public as a whole knows about Al-Qaeda and Usama. Other then the fact that we funded and trained him in the 80's to fight the Russian in Afghanistan.
The fact is the name Al-Qaeda (meaning the base) was created by the United States Government in order to try a possible terrorist. They named Bin Laden as the head of this organization, but with RICO laws that were used to prosecute the mob they needed a clear picture of how this group operated and who and how they came to be. Defectors, many just wanting amnesty and a koosh home and taxpayers money made up tons of shit about this supposive group of terrorists. Did anyone see that report last week that came out from the US Government showing absolutely no Al-Qaeda cells operating in the United States. It is so easy to blow something up, think about it. The terror that would cause from just blowing up one tiny lil grocery story would cause terror across the homeland. Yet nothing has happened since 9/11. Why? I'm sure most of you know that I am a firm believer in GOvernment complicity in the 9/11 attacks. If you'd like me to put my reasons up for that, I can. I'll give a laundry list of obvious forknowledge and blatant protocols not followed on 9/11. Including many warnings to high ranking officials to stay off flights and out of lower Manhatten on this horrible day. Not to mention the many holes that you could fly a 747 through regarding the "official" story. But no one seems to care....I don't know why I continue wasting my time explaining the obvious to many here.
Don't worry, I agree with you on this one. Let the people have their peace of mind if that's all they want.
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Blimy, I'm gonna reply to this to get notified
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