http://nytimes.com/2005/03/31/internati ... 31gay.html



Clerics of 3 Faiths Protest Gay Festival Planned for Jerusalem

International gay leaders are planning a 10-day WorldPride festival and parade in Jerusalem in August, saying they want to make a statement about tolerance and diversity in the Holy City, home to three great religious traditions.

Now major leaders of the three faiths - Christianity, Judaism and Islam - are making a rare show of unity to try to stop the festival. They say the event would desecrate the city and convey the erroneous impression that homosexuality is acceptable.

"They are creating a deep and terrible sorrow that is unbearable," Shlomo Amar, Israel's Sephardic chief rabbi, said yesterday at a news conference in Jerusalem attended by Israel's two chief rabbis, the patriarchs of the Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox and Armenian churches, and three senior Muslim prayer leaders. "It hurts all of the religions. We are all against it."

Abdel Aziz Bukhari, a Sufi sheik, added: "We can't permit anybody to come and make the Holy City dirty. This is very ugly and very nasty to have these people come to Jerusalem."

Israeli authorities have not indicated what action, if any, they might take to limit the events. Banning the festival would seem unlikely, though the government could withhold the required permits for specific events, like a parade.

Interfaith agreement is unusual in Israel. The leaders' joint opposition was initially generated by the Rev. Leo Giovinetti, an evangelical pastor from San Diego who is both a veteran of the American culture war over homosexuality and a frequent visitor to Israel, where he has formed relationships with rabbis and politicians.

Organizers of the gay pride event, Jerusalem WorldPride 2005, said that 75 non-Orthodox rabbis had signed a statement of support for the event, and that Christian and Muslim leaders as well as Israeli politicians were expected to announce their support soon. They said they were dismayed to see that what united their opponents was their objection to homosexuality.

"That is something new I've never witnessed before, such an attempt to globalize bigotry," said Hagai El-Ad, the executive director of Jerusalem Open House, a gay and lesbian group that is the host for the festival. "It's quite sad and ironic that these religious figures are coming together around such a negative message."

Rabbi Sharon Kleinbaum, co-chairwoman of the festival and the rabbi of Congregation Beth Simchat Torah, a gay synagogue in New York City, said the controversy was another sign that each religion had become polarized between its liberal and conservative wings.

The global Anglican Communion split deeply over homosexuality in the last two years after its American affiliate ordained an openly gay bishop and the Canada affiliate decided to allow blessings of same-sex unions.

"I reject that they have the right to define religion in such a narrow way," Rabbi Kleinbaum said of religious leaders who denounce homosexuality. "Gay and lesbian people are saying we are equal partners in religious communities, and we believe in a religious world in which all are created in God's image."

The festival is planned for Aug. 18-28 and is expected to draw thousands of visitors from dozens of countries. The theme is "Love Without Borders," and a centerpiece will be a parade on Aug. 25 through Jerusalem, a city that remains deeply conservative, though other parts of Israel have become increasingly accepting of gays in recent years. Other events include a film festival, art exhibits and a conference for clerics.

When the first WorldPride festival was held five years ago in Rome, religious opposition came from the Vatican, while secular opposition came from a neo-Fascist group that vowed to hold a counterdemonstration. But the neo-Fascists canceled their demonstration, the march came off peacefully, and even a few center-right politicians joined many thousands of marchers.

One day later, however, Pope John Paul II appeared on a balcony over St. Peter's Square and delivered a message expressing his "bitterness" that the gay festival had gone forward, calling it an "offense to the Christian values of a city that is so dear to the hearts of Catholics across the world."

Both WorldPride festivals were initiated by an umbrella group, InterPride, that says its mission is to promote gay rights internationally.

The outcry over the 2005 festival will not be confined to Israel. The American evangelical leader who helped to galvanize the opposition, Mr. Giovinetti, is the senior pastor of Mission Valley Christian Fellowship, an independent church that meets in a hotel in Southern California. A former band leader in Las Vegas, he is also host of a radio program heard on stations around the United States.

Neither he nor other evangelical American leaders were at the news conference in Jerusalem, which was called by the chief rabbinate of Israel. But by all accounts Mr. Giovinetti played a crucial role in spreading the first alarms among religious leaders about the gay festival.

He said he had first heard about WorldPride from a congregation member who had told Mr. Giovinetti that he was gay for many years and still monitored gay Web sites. Mr. Giovinetti said he alerted Israeli politicians and religious leaders.

Mr. Giovinetti circulated a petition against the festival, titled "Homosexuals to Desecrate Jerusalem," which he said had been signed by every member of the ultra-Orthodox Shas Party in the Israeli Parliament. Another American who helped bring together the opposition was Rabbi Yehuda Levin, of the Rabbinical Alliance of America, which says it represents more than 1,000 American Orthodox rabbis. At the news conference in Jerusalem, he called the festival "the spiritual rape of the Holy City." He said, "This is not the homo land, this is the Holy Land."

Annual marches by homosexuals have become routine in Tel Aviv, a secular coastal city. For the past three years, gay parades have also been staged in Jerusalem. Religious groups have complained, but the police have issued permits for the events, which have been held without any serious incidents.[/img]

That is too ludicrous. That must have come from The Onion.

http://www.godhatesfags.com

a personal favorite

p.s. thats from the NY Times, not the onion.

Eh, same thing.

BTW, I could write for pages about those GodHatesFags people, but they're so not worth it.

this article represents more evidence for the case for atheism

Awesome, we can't get one covert agent into Iran or N. Korea, but we've got double agents working the gay community.



Anyone else think that would make a sweet amusement park? Homo-Land

Not as sweet as Fag City, USA (aka St. Louis).

Man in Funny Hat Supports Gay-Pride Festival

If I had to wear one of those funny hats I'd probably go with the merlin hat.

That is just brilliant.

Back to the Gay Pride Festival. I do not approve of any of these "pride" movements, which probably doesn't come as a surprise, but I am annoyed by the Gay Pride movement in particular since they tend to be the most vocal, flamboyant, and ultimately annoying. Assuming of course that one is gay at birth what makes your sexual orientation so compelling that you should have a parade in honor of it? I also firmly believe that pride is usually the refuge of the weak, but thats just me. Why not make judgements about people based upon (forgive the obligatory reference) the content of their character instead of basing our identity upon gender, race, sexaul preference, or religious background?

I support any and all pride movements!

Besides, for years now, homosexuals were told to be ashamed of what they are feeling. So, now, they want to have a parade to tell the world that they will not be ashamed to say who they are? I say more power to them. You're using "pride" as "egotism" or "vanity," no one likes egotistical/vain people. They're using "pride" as no longer ashamed.

I believe that's the point of the gay pride movement in general. People don't live in a bubble, they live in a world that does make judgements based on everything but the content of a person's character, thus a need for a gay pride movement.
the gay pride movement, and any number of other organized groups like this one want people to see them and say, it's ok if they are {insert basic descriptor here} because we will not judge you because of that fact, we will judge you on the content of your character.

I don't personally mind the Gay Pride events. Given how homosexuality has been shunned and looked down upon for so long, I like to see a group of homosexuals being proud of who they are. And it'll only help other homosexuals (those afraid to come out) to see that they're not alone and that there's nothing wrong with them.

But yeah, there are definitely a lot of flamboyant, annoying fags in these parades.

Well, the good news is, these men (in hats) can have their own festivals to celebrate whatever they wish.

I am so sick of oppression that drive people to the opposite extreme of overt zelousness.

Live and let fucking live, (proverbially) for Christ's Sake (pun intended).

c-

Give me a fucking break - I have no issue with gay rights or gay parades or any of that other crap that groups that claim they want inclusion do to single themselves out, but come on, this is ridiculous. This is nothing more than gay rights activists performing the ultimate taboo for show and they really should think about things more thoroughly than this.

Fucking ridiculous.

So finally, after thousands of years of bloodshed and holy wars, the worlds religions have been united with their common hatred of sweaty man-sex.

what a glorious day!

lololol

<----PFLAG supporter

sorry, i think there's an absolute right for gay pride parades. they're proud of who they are and for years they haven't been able to be open about their sexuality, so it's about damned time! at least their happy.
i've been to Gay Pride in Hawaii and Seattle, and i had a great time at both. hell the so-called "gay-bars" here in LA and ten times more fun then the straight ones.