Hey, I didn't say it ...



http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtm ... ID=8379961

I want to see a graph of the rollercoaster ride that is the support for this war.

That looks like shit on "night." Sorry.

Yes, but the more pressing question is do Americans think the runaway bride should still get married!

The smartest people are the 18% or so that say they don't know.

Pussies.

Isn't this an opinion poll?

Thanks to mtv, most people in America don't understand anything that lasts longer than 30 minutes... of course public support will drop. When has post WWII America done anything (besides Vietnam) that takes more than 6 months of dedicated time and effort? The public gets so bored, so easily, that the Iraq war seems about as relevent as Hypercolor t-shirts.

What bushie is to scared to say and what michael mcmoore is to dumb to tell you; is that Iraq will take a long time and lot's of money to fix, but it's worth it.

how is it worth all that time and money?

didn't people say the same thing about vietnam?

It sure is! we are gonna reap so much benefit from Iraq! I can't wait.

Not us bro, them and their neighbors. This was never about us. It's about stablizing them in the long run. Think past your 30 minute limit. An america-hating democracy in iraq is better for the middle east and the rest of the world then an america-hating dictatorship.

Hands down the most hillarious and completely wrong statement in this thread. As if the United States would EVER do anything that would cost this country over 1600 in American lives and over 300 billion in treasure that was NOT for this country. It's just absurd to think otherwise, go read Howard Zinn's Carter/Reagan/Bush chapter in People's History and you'll see how our foreign policy has operated around the world. WE ONLY DO THINGS INTERNATIONALLY IF IT'S IN OUR NATIONAL INTEREST, and oil is in our national security interest so says every President since F.D.R.

zing!

By us I meant protecting america from iraqi attacks.

But, fair enough, I will concede that was a ignorant statement. That doesn't invalidate the rest of the point.

5/4/2005
Spinning Into Butter:
Let's let the words of others do the work today:

July 24, 2003 (from the New York Times, after the deaths of Uday and Qusay Hussein): "White House officials however exuded determination they had turned a corner in the increasingly difficult task of restoring order from chaos in Iraq."

August 13, 2003 (from Fox "News" show Special Report With Brit Hume, Fred Barnes speaking): "Now, Paul Bremer says -- who's over there running the American regime in Iraq, where they've turned the corner in defeating the Baathists and so on and most of the country is safe and stable, says we don't need more troops...I think Bremer also said it was only about 100 terrorists have come in from...outside the country from Iran. And that's not really that many. So I don't think it's that big a problem."

January 1, 2004 (from ABC News, after a bomb blew up at a Baghdad New Year's celebration): "Last night's attack came at a time when coalition officials were cautiously beginning to feel that they had turned a corner here in Iraq."

June 2, 2004 (from CNN's Inside Politics, then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice speaking): "The reason that we've turned a corner and, more importantly, that Iraq has turned a corner and the Iraqi people have turned a corner is that they now have a government in place broadly representative of, broadly capable, I think, of representing the views of the Iraqi people that can now accept sovereignty and can be a full partner in trying to secure Iraq and in accelerating its reconstruction. The Iraqis don't like occupation any more than we would like occupation. And it is time for that occupation to end."

September 14, 2004 (from CNN's Newsnight With Aaron Brown, Senator Lindsay Graham speaking): "And between now and our November election and between now and January there will be hell to pay in Iraq because the stakes are very high but, if we can make it through January, Aaron, then I think we've turned the corner."

February 9, 2005 (from CNN's Wolf Blitzer Reports, Senator Lindsay Graham speaking after the Iraqi - and American - elections): "If we think we've turned the corner, this is a misreading of what happened. The attacks are going to continue."

April 15, 2005 (from Fox "News" show The Big Story With John Gibson, Richard Perle answering a question about whether or not a corner has been turned in Iraq): " I believe we've turned a corner. And that was -- that corner was turned when 8.5 million Iraqis braved death to cast their first votes. Now a government is being formed. The Iraqi people are invested in the future of their own country. And that was the critical turning point." The next question Gibson asked Perle was whether or not he ever felt like saying "we were right."

The thing about constantly turning corners? You end up going in circles.

I'll be sure to take his opinions as fact. It's not like he's biased.

BOO YA Gee

what does this mean?

you might have to ask stuart scott, on espn, but i used it in this case cause his statement is true, asking howard zinn for his opinion on america and its politics is the same as asking me if i think a healthy diet consists of wendys, mcdonalds, burger king and taco bell (and btw, that is a healthy diet, honestly)