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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 4:26 pm 
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Don't know if this has been posted before or not, but this is a great quote...


Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood,just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather,the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism,will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so.

How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar."

-Julius Caesar

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heyfoxymophandlemomma wrote:
Don't know if this has been posted before or not, but this is a great quote...


Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood,just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather,the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism,will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so.

How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar."
-Julius Caesar


who is going to be our Brutus, damnit?!!!

in addition, this quote was in a pj newsletter... dont remember the exact one, but it was in there... maybe 3 years back?


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Caesar never said that though. It's unfortunate, but everyone got taken by a fake quote.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/b ... -quote.htm


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Ha! Didn't PJ put that in the Manual for Free Living newsletter?

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It was really a dick cheney quote, that father of a lesbian daughter. What a silly guy.


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heyfoxymophandlemomma wrote:
Don't know if this has been posted before or not, but this is a great quote...


Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood,just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather,the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism,will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so.

How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar."

-Julius Caesar


Here's another good one:

"Beware of a leader who bangs the drum of protection but votes against it before he votes for it, and then cries about protection. It confuses the blood as well as the mind. And when the drums of protection have reached fever pitch with the hate of the other side, the mind of the leader will look towards a confused citizenry in order to find the solution. But, none will be offered. The leader, will blindly explain that attacking the enemy is both right and wrong at the same time, leading the uninformed citizenry towards more confusion. Thus, the economy and leadership of the state will crumble in the midst of indecisiveness.

How do I know? I am Nostradamus."


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Skywalker wrote:
Caesar never said that though. It's unfortunate, but everyone got taken by a fake quote.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/b ... -quote.htm



Oh well, whoever said it was a damn good quote!

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"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."

-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials


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This may get me in trouble, but hey...

"Americans have different ways of saying things. They say 'elevator', we say 'lift'...They say 'President, we say 'stupid, psychopathic git'..."
ALEXI SAYLE

Also a great quote. :lol:

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