Was wondering what every here thinks about this?

http://media1.streamtoyou.com/rnc/101104v1-1.wmv

The disagreement is how the current administration went about the regime change in Iraq. Throughout the 80's and very early 90's the regime in Iraq was targeted by human rights groups while enjoying the support of the US government. When Saddam invaded and used chemical weapons on its neighbor, Iran, the US threatened to veto any UN security council sanctions. But when Saddam invaded Kuwait it was a problem and chemical weapons became a problem only in this current millinium. I think we are still waiting for you to explain the difference.

I claim to know nothing about how washington works. But how can you believe anything thing that comes out of that mans mouth?

If you decide not to vote for Kerry because you feel you cannot trust him, then that is fine.

It is your right.

I will not vote for Bush because of his policies and issues that he supports. Kerry, Nader, and Cobb are closer to my views on the issues than is George W.

The fact is that both Kerry and Bush do not tell the truth 100% of the time, and both of them have flip-flopped (check Punk David's thread on Bush flip-flops). Neither Bush nor Kerry is infalliable on the issue of trust.

Because he is not a liar. Okay I'll give you Cambodia only because I have never really read into that claim or the claim of that claim . But John Kerry is not a liar. C-span. org has as much of his testimony from the 70's as there is available. C-span also has his rants on the floor of the senate. I know we disagree politically, you and I, but watch or read his actual statements the man is taken out of context inn ways that the President is never.
Now watch and read the Presidents comments . I mean no disrespect , but he is a outright liar. C-span.org . Watch the 2000 debates and speeches since. It is mind numbing how much crap has come out of that mans mouth. I am referring to W. BTW. He gets such a free ride and i think that is what pisses people like me off the most.

Office of Special Plans was set up by Cheney and headed by Feith. It was responsible for all the cherry picking date mining of intelligence regarding the Iraq threat. Most of it pre-1991 that could be used to scare Congress and the American public into proceeding into this adventure, of course using 9-11 as the pre-text. If you were being lied to regarding the threat, then I could see how you would vote for such action. Once finding out what the OSP did which was simply set up shop at the Pentagon and find all intelligence that could back up their pre-conceived notions. When that didn't work as well as they thought, they went to Challabi. Who both the CIA and State Department found his intelligence to be self serving and never correct. Yet, they went ahead with the mushroom clouds and tons of WMD's that he had. Hell, even exposing the identity of CIA agent Valerie Plaime. All because her Husband informed the American people of the truth behind the Uranium from Niger, or lack there of.

Are you trying to say Kerry doesn't deserve to be President because he believed what the Administration was feeding him regarding the made up threat of Iraq. Then finding out it's all lies and deception, and feeling American was betrayed?

He chose to be fiscally conservative when paying for this war of choice, as opposed to giving tax cuts to the wealthiest in a time of war. Something unheard of.

Wait I get it this is suppose to show how smart politicans change their mind and adapt to new facts.

Thats my favorite part . Of everything.


But the retort is "Kerry Said he would have still voted For....."

For what? Giving the President the authority to enforce UN sanctions? BUt would the President act alone or allow due process? The punishment for capital murder is what? Can we enforce the punishment at any time? at our own discression? Then I want to enforce it on Carson Daley eventhough he has not capped a cop to the best of my knowledge. But who's counting, Right?

Tax cuts were needed after 911.
If you were rich, how would you feel about taxes.
They cant support everyone forever.

http://www.moveon.org/censure/caughtonvideo/

And more Bush administration deception....

Watch the 2000 debates at c-span.org. The original reason fot the tax cuts was to give the surplus back to "the American People". That was still the reason until Bush turned a "adjustment" into a prolonged reccession with a jobless and targeted recovery that is evident only in corporate profits. And then 9/11 fell into his lap during storytime.
How long are we going to have this fucking pentium 4 technology? Between '96 and '00 I got a new computer every year. Remember MMX and pentium II them 3. And yes it is Bushs' anti-technology fault. Technology is not a controlled commodity like oil, real estate or weapons. Fuckers

I can't be serious too long. I start getting pissed so I am going back to flaming everyone for awhile

Are you rich? Would you like tobe rich?

Am I rich? What do you want? Tell me what you want and If I can I'll give it to you , I will. That will answer your question. So just tell me.

Voo, I've never met even one "Rich Person" who "supports" the rest of us any more than absolutely necessary. Rich people I've known (and you'd be surprised at the number) generally spend AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE, especially when it involves spending money on SERVICES given them by not rich people. They are pretty notorious for being tight wads.

How much do you make?

I am more than comfortable. I have the things I want and too many things I thought i wanted. I will not be affected by the Kerry taxplan unless I get married because my old-ladies income would put us over the top. But as long as i keep referring to her a "my old lady" , i'm safe. She is too "sensitive".

I know they are but doesnt that make them smart.
Saving money is smart.

I think it's funny how the shortest recession in the history of America becomes "prolonged recession" in the Democratic talking points.

but anyway ...

Could somebody please explain to me why many of the economic indicators now are about the same or better than when Clinton was running for a second term ... and doing so on the STRENGTH of the economy at the time?

maybe there is a good answer. I'm seriously asking.

Giving the wealthy tax breaks NEVER helps the economy, and this is proven. Or have you forgotten "trickle-down" economics already?

Yea, thought so

Where do you come up with this stuff? I mean seriously..

I try to give people the benefit of the doubt and respect what they have to say but you must go out of your way to try to make it difficult.

I say tax the fuck out of the poor. And if they say they cant survive, well that means you just gotta go out and get a better paying job.