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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:40 pm 
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Paul Cameron, founder of the Family Research Institute, calls gays and lesbians "death marketers."

"I am not sure how long they will take to destroy the US from within, but sufficiently weakened, the US will probably fall to another state before that occurs," he recently told the Boston Globe.

In 1983, Cameron cofounded the Institute for the Scientific Investigation of Sexuality, where he published reports claiming that homosexuals were more likely than heterosexuals to molest children and commit other crimes. Shortly thereafter, the American Psychological Association barred Cameron from its membership. The American Sociological Association said that "Cameron has consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented sociological research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism."

But Cameron resurfaced with the Family Research Institute, publishing studies titled "Gay Parents More Apt to Molest." In recent years, his pseudoscience has been cited by dissenters in the Massachusetts ruling legalizing gay marriage, in a Florida Supreme Court decision upholding a ban on adoption by same-sex couples and on behalf of a Virginia proposal requiring that adoptive parents reveal their sexual identities to social workers. The media frequently credits the Institute as an alternative to the 150,000-member American Psychological Association.

Cameron's Institute, along with the American College of Pediatrics--a right-wing splinter of the 60,000-member American Academy of Pediatrics--seek to blur the distinction of what is and isn't accepted science, the Boston Globe reports. And these fraud think tanks are multiplying. "Created as counterpoints to large, well-established medical organizations whose work is subject to rigorous review and who assert no political agenda," the Globe writes, "the tiny think tanks with names often mimicking those of established medical authorities have sought to dispute the notion of a medical consensus on social issues such as gay rights, the right to die, abortion, and birth control."

Cameron's "studies" are distributed through the Christian Communications Network, run by anti-choice advocate Gary McCullough, the press agent for Operation Rescue and the parents of Terri Schiavo. Press releases in the past few weeks included: "Gays Twice as Apt to Drive Under the Influence, says Family Research Institute," "Gays 6X More Expensive Than Smokers, says Family Research Institute," and, "Weird Behavior Among Gays Due to Mental Illness? Asks Family Research Institute." Until the Globe article, the 43,000-church Traditional Values Coalition listed Cameron's work on its website. He's briefed White House aides on his adoption theories.

Articles published in Psychological Reports, an obscure Montana journal described as "a scientific manifestation of free speech," lends Cameron's junk agitprop academic cover. "I'm amazed that he is able to continue to be published," says Dr. Ellen Perrin, professor of pediatrics at the Tufts-New England Medical Center. Perrin and other established scientific experts have found no important difference between children raised by same-sex and heterosexual couples, nor a higher tendency toward "antisocial" behavior among gays and lesbians. "Cameron's work is methodologically weak and in many cases the conclusions he draws from his data are not valid," adds Dr. Gregory Harek, professor of psychology at the University of California-Davis.

It's as if the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth discovered science.


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Am I the only one that finds it blatantly obvious that the people who speak out about homosexuality in the most extreme terms are clearly closeted homosexuals themselves? All it would take is for someone to do some digging and investigative work to catch this guy downloading gay porn, or soliciting young boys in the park late at night. I wish there was a crusading journalist out there that did nothing but try to discredit these hate groups.

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Am I the only one that finds it blatantly obvious that the people who speak out about homosexuality in the most extreme terms are clearly closeted homosexuals themselves? All it would take is for someone to do some digging and investigative work to catch this guy downloading gay porn, or soliciting young boys in the park late at night. I wish there was a crusading journalist out there that did nothing but try to discredit these hate groups.


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Serjical Strike wrote:
Am I the only one that finds it blatantly obvious that the people who speak out about homosexuality in the most extreme terms are clearly closeted homosexuals themselves? All it would take is for someone to do some digging and investigative work to catch this guy downloading gay porn, or soliciting young boys in the park late at night. I wish there was a crusading journalist out there that did nothing but try to discredit these hate groups.


I think in some cases that is true, in others it isn't. I've known a couple of people whos anti gay rhetoric and over emphasis on how straight they are is very suspect. I think there are to many ultra homophobic people though in this world to account for them all being closet gays. It must really suck to be a closeted homosexual who has convinced themself to hate homosexuals. That is a pretty fucked up sickness.


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It must really suck to be a closeted homosexual who has convinced themself to hate homosexuals. That is a pretty fucked up sickness.

Just like Clayton Bigsby. :(

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Basically, "Dear Mr. Cameron, Go fuck yourself. Yours truly, Max Siegel"


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why is this idea: gay = pedophile so prevelent?

is it that anti-gay people have to make it illicit in order to justify hating it?

is it the discomfort with the idea of gay sex that makes them get all dumb and squeamish?

i would wager that most of these gay = pedophile idiots have some private sexual habits that would make their collegues cringe. but since their habits are hetereo, it is all okay.

i am so sick of this hatred.

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kiddo wrote:
why is this idea: gay = pedophile so prevelent?

is it that anti-gay people have to make it illicit in order to justify hating it?

is it the discomfort with the idea of gay sex that makes them get all dumb and squeamish?

i would wager that most of these gay = pedophile idiots have some private sexual habits that would make their collegues cringe. but since their habits are hetereo, it is all okay.

i am so sick of this hatred.


by no means am i justifying it, but how many pedophilliac men who go after boys, arent gay?

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Peeps wrote:
kiddo wrote:
why is this idea: gay = pedophile so prevelent?

is it that anti-gay people have to make it illicit in order to justify hating it?

is it the discomfort with the idea of gay sex that makes them get all dumb and squeamish?

i would wager that most of these gay = pedophile idiots have some private sexual habits that would make their collegues cringe. but since their habits are hetereo, it is all okay.

i am so sick of this hatred.


by no means am i justifying it, but how many pedophilliac men who go after boys, arent gay?


no shit, sherlock. all you just stated was 'gay pedophiles = gay'


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tommymctom wrote:
Peeps wrote:
kiddo wrote:
why is this idea: gay = pedophile so prevelent?

is it that anti-gay people have to make it illicit in order to justify hating it?

is it the discomfort with the idea of gay sex that makes them get all dumb and squeamish?

i would wager that most of these gay = pedophile idiots have some private sexual habits that would make their collegues cringe. but since their habits are hetereo, it is all okay.

i am so sick of this hatred.


by no means am i justifying it, but how many pedophilliac men who go after boys, arent gay?


no shit, sherlock. all you just stated was 'gay pedophiles = gay'


Stop fighting!! It's so gay ;)

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tommymctom wrote:
Peeps wrote:
kiddo wrote:
why is this idea: gay = pedophile so prevelent?

is it that anti-gay people have to make it illicit in order to justify hating it?

is it the discomfort with the idea of gay sex that makes them get all dumb and squeamish?

i would wager that most of these gay = pedophile idiots have some private sexual habits that would make their collegues cringe. but since their habits are hetereo, it is all okay.

i am so sick of this hatred.


by no means am i justifying it, but how many pedophilliac men who go after boys, arent gay?


no shit, sherlock. all you just stated was 'gay pedophiles = gay'


so are you holmes or what?

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Peeps wrote:
tommymctom wrote:
Peeps wrote:
kiddo wrote:
why is this idea: gay = pedophile so prevelent?

is it that anti-gay people have to make it illicit in order to justify hating it?

is it the discomfort with the idea of gay sex that makes them get all dumb and squeamish?

i would wager that most of these gay = pedophile idiots have some private sexual habits that would make their collegues cringe. but since their habits are hetereo, it is all okay.

i am so sick of this hatred.


by no means am i justifying it, but how many pedophilliac men who go after boys, arent gay?


no shit, sherlock. all you just stated was 'gay pedophiles = gay'


so are you holmes or what?


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Serjical Strike wrote:
Am I the only one that finds it blatantly obvious that the people who speak out about homosexuality in the most extreme terms are clearly closeted homosexuals themselves?


In that case his personal experience would surely help him understand homosexual behavior better than most. Wanna try again?

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Serjical Strike wrote:
Am I the only one that finds it blatantly obvious that the people who speak out about homosexuality in the most extreme terms are clearly closeted homosexuals themselves?


In that case his personal experience would surely help him understand homosexual behavior better than most. Wanna try again?


Who's talking about understanding homosexual behavior? It doesn't take a genius to understand it. Gay people love people of the same sex like heterosexuals love people of the opposite sex.

Anyone that takes the time to write pamphlet upon pamphlet espousing the evils of the homosexual lifestyle IMO has some internal struggle going on. Probably because the guy's been gay his whole life but his fucked up religious upbringing has taught him that's wrong, creating self-loathing which is then projected onto homosexuals as a whole.

I won't even mention the guy in their logo:
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Am I the only one that finds it blatantly obvious that the people who speak out about Bush in the most extreme terms are clearly closeted Bush Supporters themselves? All it would take is for someone to do some digging and investigative work to catch this guy downloading bush support pins, or soliciting young boys in the park late at night to vote republican. I wish there was a crusading journalist out there that did nothing but try to discredit these bush supporters.


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Am I the only one that finds it blatantly obvious that the people who speak out about Bush in the most extreme terms are clearly closeted Bush Supporters themselves? All it would take is for someone to do some digging and investigative work to catch this guy downloading bush support pins, or soliciting young boys in the park late at night to vote republican. I wish there was a crusading journalist out there that did nothing but try to discredit these bush supporters.


;)


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