Post subject: Study: America's most liberal and conservative cities
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:02 pm
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The Bay Area Center For Voting Research, a non-partisan group, recently ranked 273 cities in America with population of 100,000 based on how conservative/liberal they are. I found this interesting, sorry if something like this has been posted already.
25 Most Liberal 1 Detroit Michigan
2 Gary Indiana
3 Berkeley California
4 Washington, D.C. Dist. of Columbia
5 Oakland California
6 Inglewood California
7 Newark New Jersey
8 Cambridge Massachusetts
9 San Francisco California
10 Flint Michigan
11 Cleveland Ohio
12 Hartford Connecticut
13 Paterson New Jersey
14 Baltimore Maryland
15 New Haven Connecticut
16 Seattle Washington
17 Chicago Illinois
18 Philadelphia Pennsylvania
19 Birmingham Alabama
20 St. Louis Missouri
21 New York New York
22 Providence Rhode Island
23 Minneapolis Minnesota
24 Boston Massachusetts
25 Buffalo New York
25 Most Conservative 1 Provo Utah
2 Lubbock Texas
3 Abilene Texas
4 Hialeah Florida
5 Plano Texas
6 Colorado Springs Colorado
7 Gilbert Arizona
8 Bakersfield California
9 Lafayette Louisiana
10 Orange California
11 Escondido California
12 Allentown Pennsylvania
13 Mesa Arizona
14 Arlington Texas
15 Peoria Arizona
16 Cape Coral Florida
17 Garden Grove California
18 Simi Valley California
19 Corona California
20 Clearwater Florida
21 West Valley City Utah
22 Oklahoma City Oklahoma
23 Overland Park Kansas
24 Anchorage Alaska
25 Huntington Beach California
I found this interesting. I grew up in the 7th most conservative and now live in the 13th most conservative. No surprise there.
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I wonder how they came to these conclusions on liberal and conservative?
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I'm really surprised Austin isn't on there, I guess there's such a prejudice against Texas that no city there will ever be considered liberal.
As for Plano, TX, it's home to one of the worst youth drug epidemics, and I mean hard drugs, heroin, Coke, Oxy, etc. Rich kids with nothing to do almost always leads to trouble.
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One thing I noticed right off the bat from this list is that nearly every conservative city is not a "city center". They are the largest "satellite" cities of larger city centers. Like Hialeah is a suburb of Miami, and Arligton is a suburb of Dallas, and honestly, I don't know where about 15 of those cities are, and I consider myself really good at geography.
On the other hand, the liberal cities are the old city centers, and I went down that list and I could pinpoint every single one of them on a map. Some of them are virtually suburbs as well these days, like Patterson or Gary, or Inglewood, but they were all cities in their own right 50 years ago. The conservative cities, if they even existed then, were small cities or towns that have exploded in the past 50 years.
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Kinda surprised Madison isn't on that liberal list somewhere.
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punkdavid wrote:
One thing I noticed right off the bat from this list is that nearly every conservative city is not a "city center". They are the largest "satellite" cities of larger city centers. Like Hialeah is a suburb of Miami, and Arligton is a suburb of Dallas, and honestly, I don't know where about 15 of those cities are, and I consider myself really good at geography.
On the other hand, the liberal cities are the old city centers, and I went down that list and I could pinpoint every single one of them on a map. Some of them are virtually suburbs as well these days, like Patterson or Gary, or Inglewood, but they were all cities in their own right 50 years ago. The conservative cities, if they even existed then, were small cities or towns that have exploded in the past 50 years.
I would agree with that. One thing that strikes me in particular is how many of the conservative cities are in the L.A./Phoenix/S.D. metro areas... At least Gilbert, Orange, Escondido, Mesa, Peoria, Corona, and possibly Garden Grove, Simi Valley, and Huntington Beach (I don't know the area that well) fall into that category. These just so happen to be two of the most "sprawling" metro areas in the country, if I'm not mistaken.
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I find it ironic that I grew between the Nos. 1 and 10 most "liberal" cities and now live in the 17th most "liberal." This designation also entitles me to claim that I grew up either outside of or in 3 of the most crooked and corrupt cities in the US.
Air America and some conservative talk show host were talking about this yesterday. It was kind of weird how the contrast was. The left's big contention was the same with IEB's, and "well how do you consider it liberal and conservative," and "Lubbock has the highest teenaged STD rates in America," Whereas, the conservatives observation was this:
Detroit, Phili, Cleveland, Buffalo, Oakland, Flint, DC, Gary, New Haven, St. Louis...
Let's face it, the nations worst hellholes are liberal cities. Call them Democratic cities if you will. The main methodology of this survey was characterized by voting trends, and people in these cities have an unending, continous record of voting for Democrats in both national and local elections. I find it real amusing myself. These cities continue and continue to deteriorate in a number of broad area's ranging from economic strength to providing basic social services, yet these people continue to vote for democrats and continue to promote their failed policies. I just can't help but wonder what's wrong these people. They've led "their people" into the worst situations to be found in America.
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LittleWing wrote:
Air America and some conservative talk show host were talking about this yesterday. It was kind of weird how the contrast was. The left's big contention was the same with IEB's, and "well how do you consider it liberal and conservative," and "Lubbock has the highest teenaged STD rates in America," Whereas, the conservatives observation was this:
Detroit, Phili, Cleveland, Buffalo, Oakland, Flint, DC, Gary, New Haven, St. Louis...
Let's face it, the nations worst hellholes are liberal cities. Call them Democratic cities if you will. The main methodology of this survey was characterized by voting trends, and people in these cities have an unending, continous record of voting for Democrats in both national and local elections. I find it real amusing myself. These cities continue and continue to deteriorate in a number of broad area's ranging from economic strength to providing basic social services, yet these people continue to vote for democrats and continue to promote their failed policies. I just can't help but wonder what's wrong these people. They've led "their people" into the worst situations to be found in America.
That list of liberal hell holes also contains some of the finest educational institutions (Harvard, Columia, MIT, Yale, Berkely) economic power houses (New York, Detroit, San Francisco, Seattle, Chicago), nations most important arts centers. Those dumb people need to get themselves some Republican leaders to sort out their priorities.
Madison was 34, which seems a bit low. But Milwaukee at #40? I'm not so sure Milwaukee should even be on that list at all. Certainly not at #40.
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