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As much as Terminator 2 has influenced me and had staying power over the years, you cant count out the Spinal Tap/When Harry met Sally/Princess Bride trifecta.
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jacktor wrote:
As much as Terminator 2 has influenced me and had staying power over the years, you cant count out the Spinal Tap/When Harry met Sally/Princess Bride trifecta.
He seems to have been stonewalled by the legislature for everything he has proposed, except the stem cell thing, so I don't really now how he has done. I don't think it really matters though, Cali is undergoing radical econmic and demographic shifts. No one can control it.
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byebye Arnold
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broken_iris wrote:
He seems to have been stonewalled by the legislature for everything he has proposed, except the stem cell thing, so I don't really now how he has done. I don't think it really matters though, Cali is undergoing radical econmic and demographic shifts. No one can control it.
California is almost ungovernable.
Yup. California is going through white-flight. I know alot of people that have left in the last few years to live back east because it's too expensive for the middle class to live.
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You Californians are a whiny, fickle bunch.
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Brink of Forever wrote:
Yup. California is going through white-flight. I know alot of people that have left in the last few years to live back east because it's too expensive for the middle class to live.
This kind of works out for me, because a lot of Californians are selling their million-dollar homes and moving to my area of Oregon, driving up the housing market.
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If I lived in California would I vote for him to be re-elected? No. In fact, I wouldn't have voted for him the first time around. Simply stated, I am not a republican and he is.
I would imagine that one of the main reasons he was voted into office was that people were turned on by his celebrity status. If you don't think that it had something do with him getting voted in then you're nuts.
He has definitely made some mistakes during his term. You can easily tell this because I heard his approval rating has drop into the 30s. Him vetoing that gay marriage thing is only going to piss people off even more.
Is he going to get re-elected? I think it's hard to say. You can't base your opinion strickly on approval ratings. Even if it's in the 30s he still may get re-elected for the simple fact that people don't like or don't know his opponents. "Hmm, the Terminator or some guy I don't know"
If I lived in California would I vote for him to be re-elected? No. In fact, I wouldn't have voted for him the first time around. Simply stated, I am not a republican and he is.
I would imagine that one of the main reasons he was voted into office was that people were turned on by his celebrity status. If you don't think that it had something do with him getting voted in then you're nuts.
He has definitely made some mistakes during his term. You can easily tell this because I heard his approval rating has drop into the 30s. Him vetoing that gay marriage thing is only going to piss people off even more.
Is he going to get re-elected? I think it's hard to say. You can't base your opinion strickly on approval ratings. Even if it's in the 30s he still may get re-elected for the simple fact that people don't like or don't know his opponents. "Hmm, the Terminator or some guy I don't know"
California is a different species of a state..........I would never try to predict anything they decide.
Funny thing about Arnold is that on 'The Tonight Show' he said he would support gay marriage, but now that his polls are so low he wants the Republican base to stay with him, so he vetoed it saying that it's something that the voters should decide.
Either way................Cali is a crazy state. but I'll be damned if they don't have some good Mexican food up in there That's about the only think I miss about it. (insert off topic emoticon here)
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I got a question for you Californians: what would you like to see done at the state level that Schwarzenegger or the Assembly has been unable to accomplish?
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Serjical Strike wrote:
Brink of Forever wrote:
Yup. California is going through white-flight. I know alot of people that have left in the last few years to live back east because it's too expensive for the middle class to live.
This kind of works out for me, because a lot of Californians are selling their million-dollar homes and moving to my area of Oregon, driving up the housing market.
On the other hand, this only helps if you're planning on leaving Oregon. Sure, our house has almost tripled in value in the last four years, but so have all of the other houses, so it won't help much. If you're planning on some day becoming a recluse in the middle of BFE (which I wouldn't exactly discourage), then yes, it might help you out a bit.
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Seriously, I don't think anyone who doesn't live in California has any credence with their opinion here. Everyone's talking shit on him and no one has any idea of what the hell they're talking about. Schwarzenegger's doing the best he can-- he has to deal with a legislature that is nothing short of obstructionist and cares less to actually fix the fiscal crisis than to line their own pockets with special interest money. Gray Davis and the state legislature turned California in to a fiscal nightmare and Arnold has taken necessary, pragmatic steps to try and alleviate the problems. It's not like he's going to lose next year anyway; the democrats are running two hacks in the Gray Davis mold and they're definitely not going to resonate with voters, especially when one of the candidates proposed some 8-9 billion dollar tax increase as the panacea to California's problems (his name escapes me at the moment). I'd like to see state senator Tom McClintock take the gubernatorial reigns, but I would definitely not be opposed to voting for Arnold next year.
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rohfe100 wrote:
Seriously, I don't think anyone who doesn't live in California has any credence with their opinion here.
Man, does THAT get old.
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