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 Post subject: Israel? Wipe if off the map! Says Iranian prez...stay tuned.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:37 pm 
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Iran Leader Calls for Israel's Destruction

TEHRAN, Iran - President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad declared Wednesday that
Israel is a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off the map" — fiery words that Washington said underscores its concern over
Iran's nuclear program.

Ahmadinejad's speech to thousands of students at a "World without Zionism" conference set a hard-line foreign policy course sharply at odds with that of his moderate predecessor, echoing the sentiments of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the founder of Iran's Islamic revolution.

The United States said Ahmadinejad's remarks show that Washington's fears about Iran's nuclear program are accurate.

"I think it reconfirms what we have been saying about the regime in Iran," White House press secretary Scott McClellan told reporters in Washington. "It underscores the concerns we have about Iran's nuclear intentions."

Ahmadinejad also condemned Iran's neighbors which seek to break new ground in their relations with Israel. "Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury," state-run television quoted him as saying.

Relations between Israel and several Persian Gulf states have been thawing amid Israel's withdrawal from the
Gaza Strip in September. Bahrain announced in September it was ending a decades-old law banning trade ties with Israel. In October, Qatar said it was donating $6 million to help build a soccer stadium for a mixed Arab-Jewish team, the first such financial assistance by an Arab state for any town inside Israel.

Israel has been at the forefront of nations calling for an end to Iran's nuclear program, which the United States and many others in the West say is aimed at acquiring weapons of mass destruction. Iran insists the program is for generating electricity.

Referring to Palestinian suicide bomb attacks in Israel, Ahmadinejad said: "there is no doubt that the new wave in Palestine will soon wipe off this disgraceful blot from the face of the Islamic world."

Ahmadinejad's speech came hours before a Palestinian suicide bomber blew himself up in the Israeli town of Hadera, killing five people. Iran aids several militant Palestinian groups, including Hamas and Islamic Jihad, with support and training through proxies among Lebanese Hezbollah guerrillas.

"Ahmadinejad has clearly declared the doctrine of his government," said Mohammad Sadeq Hosseini, an expert on Middle Eastern affairs. "He is returning Iran to the revolutionary goals it was pursuing in the 1980s."

Reacting to the Iranian president's speech, Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said Ahmadinejad and Hamas leader Mahmoud Zahar "speak openly about destroying the Jewish state ... and it appears the problem with these extremists is that they followed through on their violent declarations with violent actions."

Ebrahim Yazdi, a former Iranian foreign minister, said Ahmadinejad's remarks harmed Iran.

"Such comments provoke the international community against us. It's not to Iran's interests at all. It's harmful to Iran to make such a statement," he said.

Ahmadinejad became president in August after winning elections two months earlier. He replaced
Mohammad Khatami, a reformist who advocated international dialogue and tried to improve relations with the West.

Iran announced earlier this year that it had fully developed solid fuel technology for missiles, a major breakthrough that increases their accuracy. The Shahab-3, with a range of 810 miles to more than 1,200 miles, is capable of delivering a nuclear warhead to Israel and U.S. forces in the Middle East.

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The question is, who's better at soccer.


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godeatgod wrote:
The question is, who's better at soccer.


Iran, actually.

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I'm completely shocked by this statement. :arrow:

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According to the Archives,

Iran has 22 Metal bands
Israel has 99 Metal bands


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Infidels.

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Any true Zionists will have like 20 kids, otherwise Israel will inevitably be wiped off the face of the map due to the disproportionately higher Palestinian birth rate. Maybe Israeli's haven't heard of a little pill called Viagra.


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simple schoolboy wrote:
Any true Zionists will have like 20 kids, otherwise Israel will inevitably be wiped off the face of the map due to the disproportionately higher Palestinian birth rate. Maybe Israeli's haven't heard of a little pill called Viagra.


The exact same thing can be said about France and Germany. Infidel. We shall triumph! While you preach your "multiculturalism" and love for your fellow man, we multiply and lure those you throw away in your prisons and outcasts in your schools. Question us, and you will be dubbed a racist. We will keep repeating our lies, till they are your truths. You will blame yourself for our acts. You will allow us our own laws in your nations. You will teach your children our holidays in the name of tolerance. For you must tolerate us, but we will never tolerate you. Calipha comes to south east Asia and Africa. Soon it comes to Europe. It breeds in Canada and central America. Its only a matter of time.

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I love the international responce:

"Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, on a visit to Israel, criticized the Iranian leader. "I don't agree that anyone should challenge the right of any U.N. member to exist, this is indeed inadmissible," Lavrov said.

But on Wednesday he brushed off Israel's calls for Security Council action, saying the matter is "too serious to be guided by politics."

"European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso said the Iranian leader's comments were "completely unacceptable," but when asked whether Iran should be expelled from the U.N., he said: "I will not make any concrete proposal now.""

It's the standard double speak at the UN.

Are you horrified by this member-nation's actions? yes
You gonna do shit about it? Hell no

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According to the Archives,

Iran has 22 Metal bands
Israel has 99 Metal bands



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Geg, if you find some Iranian metal then post some mp3's. That sounds like something I'd wanna hear.

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Now interesting would be the UN taking a vote on whether to wipe Iran off of the map; so they wouldn't have to live in a world full of infidels. Potentially a great human interest story: alert the Washington Post, they'll publish it.


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Iran leader defends Israel remark

Friday, 28 October 2005, 15:19 GMT 16:19 UK



Protesters in Tehran burned Israeli flags
Iran's president has defended his widely criticised call for Israel to be "wiped off the map".

Attending an anti-Israel rally in Tehran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said his remarks were "just" - and the criticism did not "have any validity".

His initial comment provoked anger from many governments, and prompted Israel to demand Iran's expulsion from the UN.

Egypt said they showed "the weakness of the Iranian government". A Palestinian official also rejected the remarks.

Defiant rally

Tens of thousands of Iranians took part in the rally in Tehran which Iran organises every year on the last Friday of the fasting month of Ramadan to show solidarity with the Palestinian struggle.

Shouting "Death to Israel, death to the Zionists", the protesters dragged Israeli flags along the ground and then set them on fire.

Many carried posters and placards sporting the slogan "Israel should be wiped off the map".

Joining the protest, Mr Ahmadinejad said: "My words were the Iranian nation's words.

"Westerners are free to comment, but their reactions are invalid," Mr Ahmadinejad told the official Irna news agency.

Some demonstrators wore white shrouds in a symbolic gesture expressing readiness to die for their cause.

"Ahmadinejad talks on behalf of all Iranians. We are ready to die for Palestine," Mohammad Mirzayi, a member of a volunteer Shia militia group, told the Reuters news agency.

'Inexperience'

While most Muslim and Arab capitals have remained silent on the president's remarks, a few have spoken out - including Palestinian chief negotiator Saeb Erekat.

"Palestinians recognise the right of the state of Israel to exist and I reject his comments," he told the BBC News website.

"What we need to be talking about is adding the state of Palestine to the map and not wiping Israel from the map," he said.


Tehran says the West's reaction is linked to its nuclear plans

Egypt, which has signed a peace treaty with Israel, also rejected the Iranian line.

"In principle, we are way beyond this type of political rhetoric that shows the weakness of the Iranian government," said an official at the Egyptian embassy in London.

Turkey's prime minister called on the Iranian president "to display political moderation".

Our world affairs correspondent Paul Reynolds says that the UK Foreign Office does not regard President Ahmadinejad's statement on Israel as a new policy but more as a sign of his inexperience and the very local focus of his government.

UK officials suspect that he has held such views for years and that what is happening is that ideologues like him are now in power and are having their views exposed, he adds.

While there is no sense that Iran is backing down, there are Iranians who are concerned that their country could become increasingly isolated under this new ultra-conservative government, reports the BBC Frances Harrison in Tehran.

Diplomatic drive

Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom meanwhile said Israel would call for an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council.

"We have decided to open a broad diplomatic offensive," Mr Shalom said.

So far no action has been taken at the UN, but Secretary General Kofi Annan took the unusual step of rebuking Iran for the comments.

Iran has dismissed the international furore as a means of pressing Iran to compromise on its nuclear programme.

Negotiations have stalled between the EU and Iran over attempts to persuade Tehran to abandon its nuclear ambitions.


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I love that picture. Good to see the religion of peace gets the kids involved early. I wonder if they can blame that on Grand Theft Auto?

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I love that picture. Good to see the religion of peace gets the kids involved early. I wonder if they can blame that on Grand Theft Auto?


I guessing other members of this board will blame it on Big Business. :cry:

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I love that picture. Good to see the religion of peace gets the kids involved early. I wonder if they can blame that on Grand Theft Auto?


I guessing other members of this board will blame it on Big Business. :cry:


Those guns were bought at Wal-Mart of Tehran.

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If it even looks like Iran is building nukes, Israel will launch her own first. Israel is still the regional superpower in the Middle East, and follows her own agenda at all times. Every time the Palestinians or the rest of the Arab League has tried open conflict it has failed; they're tough people, and you REALLY don't want to fuck with the MOSSAD either.

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oh well..there goes my planned visit to Iran....
I dont know...when ill go there, ill talk to the people on the street...then ill let you guys know what the real deal is over there...

funnily enough, yesterday I watched this very good documentary called No Borders by NGO, which details the work of 3 photo journalist, one Palestinian, one Israeli and One german.

its a good one, you guys should check it out, just to see what sort of lives these people are going tru and what 's really in their minds abt their future.


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