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'God Is Mad at America,' Says New Orleans Mayor
Nagin Vows Rebuilt City Will Be 'Chocolate'
By BRETT MARTEL, AP

NEW ORLEANS (Jan. 17) - Mayor Ray Nagin suggested Monday that Hurricanes Katrina and Rita and other storms were a sign that "God is mad at America" and at black communities, too, for tearing themselves apart with violence and political infighting.

"Surely God is mad at America. He sent us hurricane after hurricane after hurricane, and it's destroyed and put stress on this country," Nagin, who is black, said as he and other city leaders marked Martin Luther King Day.

"Surely he doesn't approve of us being in Iraq under false pretenses. But surely he is upset at black America also. We're not taking care of ourselves."

Nagin also promised that New Orleans will be a "chocolate" city again. Many of the city's black neighborhoods were heavily damaged by Katrina.

"It's time for us to come together. It's time for us to rebuild New Orleans - the one that should be a chocolate New Orleans," the mayor said. "This city will be a majority African American city. It's the way God wants it to be. You can't have New Orleans no other way. It wouldn't be New Orleans."

Nagin described an imaginary conversation with King, the late civil rights leader.

"I said, `What is it going to take for us to move on and live your dream and make it a reality?' He said, `I don't think that we need to pay attention any more as much about other folks and racists on the other side.' He said, `The thing we need to focus on as a community - black folks I'm talking about - is ourselves.'"

Nagin said he also asked: "Why is black-on-black crime such an issue? Why do our young men hate each other so much that they look their brother in the face and they will take a gun and kill him in cold blood?"

The reply, Nagin said, was: "We as a people need to fix ourselves first."

Nagin also said King would have been dismayed with black leaders who are "most of the time tearing each other down publicly for the delight of many."

A day earlier, gunfire erupted at a parade to commemorate King's birthday. Three people were wounded in the daylight shooting amid a throng of mostly black spectators, but police said there were no immediate suspects or witnesses.

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I saw his conference this morning. I wonder if he got caught up in the moment or if the stress of the whole NOLA situation has finally taken its toll. He just sounded like an asshole and a racist.

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Can you imagine what would happen if someone white said they wanted a city to more European-American?

"This city will be a majority white city. It's the way God wants it to be. You can't have Boston any other way. It wouldn't be Boston."

Every liberal in the world would stand up and scream racism (most conservatives would too), so WTF? How can this guy get away with saying something like that? Or did he say "I'm just playin'." afterwards?

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"It's time for us to come together. It's time for us to rebuild New Orleans - the one that should be a chocolate New Orleans," the mayor said. "This city will be a majority African American city. It's the way God wants it to be. You can't have New Orleans no other way. It wouldn't be New Orleans."

Nagin described an imaginary conversation with King, the late civil rights leader.

"I said, `What is it going to take for us to move on and live your dream and make it a reality?' He said, `I don't think that we need to pay attention any more as much about other folks and racists on the other side.' He said, `The thing we need to focus on as a community - black folks I'm talking about - is ourselves.'"



Sounds like he may be losing it.

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Can you imagine what would happen if someone white said they wanted a city to more European-American?

"This city will be a majority white city. It's the way God wants it to be. You can't have Boston any other way. It wouldn't be Boston."

Every liberal in the world would stand up and scream racism (most conservatives would too), so WTF? How can this guy get away with saying something like that? Or did he say "I'm just playin'." afterwards?


Agreed. This shit happens all the time, and nobody seems to care. Doesn't really make sense.


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Can you imagine what would happen if someone white said they wanted a city to more European-American?

"This city will be a majority white city. It's the way God wants it to be. You can't have Boston any other way. It wouldn't be Boston."

Every liberal in the world would stand up and scream racism (most conservatives would too), so WTF? How can this guy get away with saying something like that? Or did he say "I'm just playin'." afterwards?


I agree. I don't think it is going unnoticed, I guess we will have to see what happens in the media. Its obvious he got carried away with his comments. He should of just said that NOLA will rebuild and it will be great again. It is the spirit of NOLA that makes it interesting to me, not the color of the people there or the black to white ratio. If that is all he cares about then NOLA doesn't have the right person in charge to rebuild their city.

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I'm glad somebody posted this. I heard part of this speech on NPR yesterday afternoon, and I thought this guy had finally gone off the deep end. Whatever credibility he had left, he just flushed down the toilet.

And on MLK day too. :roll:

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Yeah, pretty tough to defend his comments. Poor guy ... you run for mayor, you're not really looking to be under the national spotlight.

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I am beginning to think GOD hates me for having to repeatedly be bombarded with assholes who think they know what GOD hates

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could you be more of a vote whore?

I hope he showered after that.

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Let them have that city, who wants it now?


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Here's his defense, which may be even more batshit than the original comments:

US mayor defends 'chocolate' city

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin has sought to clarify comments he made on Martin Luther King Day to the effect that New Orleans should be a "chocolate" city.

He said he had not meant that it should be an all-black metropolis, asking: "How do you make chocolate?

"You take dark chocolate, you mix it with white milk, and it becomes a delicious drink. That is the chocolate I am talking about," he told CNN.


He also said last year's hurricanes were a sign God was angry with the US.

"Surely God is mad at America. He sent us hurricane after hurricane after hurricane, and it's destroyed and put stress on this country," Mr Nagin said on Monday.

"Surely he doesn't approve of us being in Iraq under false pretences."

"But surely he is upset at black America also. We're not taking care of ourselves," said Mr Nagin, who is black.

He was giving a speech to mark the US holiday celebrating its most famous civil rights leader.

New Orleans was about two-thirds black before Hurricane Katrina caused many residents to flee last year.

Some advocates fear planned reconstruction will not encourage poor black residents to return, leaving the city more white than it was before.

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This isn't surprising at all. This idiot needs to just shut up and stop making himself look like the fool he really is.

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He said he had not meant that it should be an all-black metropolis, asking: "How do you make chocolate?

"You take dark chocolate, you mix it with white milk, and it becomes a delicious drink. That is the chocolate I am talking about," he told CNN.


Yeah, what a mess. I think he was trying to say that he didn't want New Orleans to be rebuilt as a gentrified city, where the original, poor residents (most of whom were black) are priced out of the market and not allowed to return to their hometown.

He'd do well to hire a speech-writer.

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Y;know, this does bring up an interesting point. I wonder how much the NO/LA gov't is going to attempt to use eminent domain to rebuild the city. Could this mean that several people's houses could be condemned and their land taken, or even have gentrification resulting in skyrocketing land prices, making the land too expensive to pay taxes on to own?

Lots of tricky questions that will need to be addressed.


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In response to Green Habit's post ... yeah, this charity was formed in an attempt to fight eminant domain in the ninth ward ... This ran recently in my local independent paper. There's a link at the end for more info.

The Independent Weekly wrote:
The second Battle of New Orleans

Amid a Road Warrior environment (with convenience stores), the volunteers of Common Ground Collective are harnessing organized anarchy to help the forgotten people of the devastated Ninth Ward.

B Y P E T E R E I C H E N B E R G E R

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Call it the Second Battle of New Orleans. In the first one, fought 191 years ago this week, a ragtag conglomeration of pirates, militia, frontiersmen, Indians and free blacks under the command of Gen. Andrew Jackson beat a British army fresh off defeating Napoleon and determined to win America back for the crown.

In this one, a group of students, mountain hippies, local kids on permanent school vacation, Bay Area radicals, gay/bi/trans activists, cops, professionals and at least one Bush supporter are fighting--and winning--a battle against an imperial government, development interests and an old guard establishment. They're defending the Lower Ninth Ward, the neighborhood hardest hit by Hurricane Katrina--and the one least able to rebuild itself.

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Common Ground’s headquarters in the Lower Ninth Ward

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"ALMOST INCREDIBLE VICTORY!!!" blazed newspapers in the nation's capital in February 1815, when word reached there nearly a month after the battle.
"Activists Chase Away Bulldozer Crew" screamed the headline in The Times-Picayune last week.

In the latest legal skirmish, lawyers from grassroots organizations, neighborhood groups and the Loyola (University) Law Clinic convinced a federal judge to uphold a temporary restraining order that prevented the city from moving in and demolishing the first 117 homes on the city's list of more than 5,000 it wants to raze in the area. They're in a neighborhood that was predominantly black and the first in the city to be targeted for demolition--and where 80 percent of African Americans owned their own homes. But many of its residents are still refugees, too strapped to return and salvage their property or look through the rubble for a few prized possessions.

"We've just been thrown away, basically," says CC Campbell-Rock, who lived in the nearby Eighth Ward. "I don't know how you rebuild your life when you've lost everything and the government seems to be intent on not helping you whatsoever. And, of course, they would love for some of us not to come back home, but we would love to come back home. But how do you do that when you don't have the price of a bus ticket?"

Some proposals call for a park in the Ninth Ward, others for marshland or condominiums, says Ishmael Muhammad, an attorney for the Advancement Project and the Grassroots Legal Network. "All of those plans benefit those who have been making policy for the city," he says.

One of the main groups behind the battle is an ad hoc volunteer relief organization called Common Ground Collective, co-founded by former Black Panther leader Malik Rahim. It was the first grassroots organization to offer help in the Ninth Ward. Hundreds of volunteers from all over the country have come to work in its distribution centers, health clinics, legal center and media center. Volunteers are housed and fed and spend their days helping residents rebuild their houses, clean them of toxic mold, and get needed supplies and medicine.

Independent columnist Peter Eichenberger just returned from spending a couple of weeks working with Common Ground and filed this report. --Richard Hart

***

"You need to leave this area now," the beefy Homeland Security goon growled from his white SUV, he decked out in the latest of corpo-fascist prét-â-porter: menacing wrap shades, spooky black uniform.

Common Ground had won yet another battle--we successfully repulsed a demolition team in the Ninth Ward, forcing withdrawal of the unit. It was a preposterous early Mardi Gras parade of sorts--a Homeland Security Federal Protective Service vehicle, lights flashing, a huge yellow loader and a couple of herky trucks and trailers.

Today, there is measured jubilation at the formerly flooded Mount Carmel Baptist Church in the Upper Ninth Ward, the brick building stripped of drywall and decontaminated. Blankets and moving quilts are tacked to the studs providing a shred of privacy. The building bustles with activists loading tools and supplies amid the shriek of saws and slap of hammers. The scene is like a Marxist Road Warrior with convenience stores.

This is Common Ground's third headquarters. The fledgling outfit has outgrown the previous two and this one is filling quickly, a tent city jammed cheek to jowl, all available floor space covered with mattresses. Carpenters are busy knocking together triple bunk beds for the people swarming from the four corners of the nation--and world.

They arrive daily from Washington state, Vermont, Oregon, Belgium, Alaska. They come in Ryders, battered vans, rental cars. They arrive on trains, buses and on foot.

These days, if you pedal east of the French Quarter, say down Rampart Street onto St. Claude Avenue, it doesn't take many blocks before the lights on the streets are fewer in number, the flooded, abandoned vehicles and piles of debris more numerous.

You wouldn't know it if you stuck to wealthier areas, built on high ground for those of substantial means. There is a nearly inverse relationship between income and the waterlines on the buildings and overpasses. St. Charles Avenue didn't flood at all, Carrollton Avenue into the first floor, and Florida Avenue to the roof.

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Three people and 50 bucks. That's what the old Black Panther had when he midwifed this infant at his kitchen table, bawling and bloody during New Orleans' dark night, when shoot to kill orders were out for people--black ones (aka "looters")--unlucky enough to be caught out on the streets by renegade soldiers, cops or white vigilante groups who took the collapse of civil order as sort of an open season. We will never know the body count.

Malik Rahim tells of the storm and its aftermath--the concerted effort to evacuate the entire city, including areas that experienced no flooding like Algiers, across the Mississippi River. While it may seem difficult for an outsider to comprehend, people were driven from safe areas at the point of a gun by authorities. Rahim knows this because he was one of the ones who at one point actually feared for his life. He burrowed into his stoutly armored house like a badger and sent a shout out for backup, then rode out the worst natural disaster in the history of the region.

While Rahim and the others huddled in the house, Brandon Darby, a community organizer with a concrete business, was making his way toward New Orleans from Austin, Texas, to rescue Robert King Wilkerson, another ex-Black Panther who was one of the Angola Three. Wilkerson was falsely convicted and spent 26 years of a 34-year sentence in solitary confinement before being exonerated in 2001.

Once in New Orleans, Darby commandeered a small boat and set out to rescue his friend, but was repulsed by the authorities. He spent a night sleeping in a flooded warehouse "on a pallet of Louisiana hot sauce," then swam to where Wilkerson had sought refuge as so many New Orleanians had--on the roof of his house.

In four months, that three people and $50 has grown to a motley collective that has funneled millions of dollars of goods and volunteer services to people who weren't getting it any other way.

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New Orleans has always painted a stark contrast in income in just a few blocks. But now, areas that were merely blighted are similar to what you'd imagine an urban area to be like if hit by a neutron bomb--buildings and infrastructure mostly intact, the people simply gone. Only this wasn't a nuke, it was bio-bomb, a black-mold bomb, that emptied the city.

It takes a little getting used to, this new New Orleans.

In the absence of a population base, the act of demolishing entire neighborhoods for developers is a real risk; the act becomes much more tidy.

The vultures of mega-commerce are circling the wounded New Orleans. A recent U.S. Supreme Court decision has given the green light to the use of eminent domain for the benefit of the wealthy and private businesses--financial interests take precedence over the lives of the puny mortal ones.

Carnival Cruise Lines, for instance, is spooging in their britches at grabbing the Lower Ninth Ward, where they plan to dredge the Inner Harbor Navigation Canal (better known as the Industrial Canal) to allow deep-draft cruise ships in to provide tourists access to the planned spanking new casino and golf course.

With homeowners hundreds or thousands of miles away and the Supreme Court having given a big, fat thumbs up to the taking of private property for economic development, there are few here to resist the injustice. The economic forces that would lead one's house to be bulldozed without their consent or even knowledge for a pink hotel, a boutique and a swingin' hot spot--without a hint of due process--is a situation that should make a genuine paleo-conservative turn the color of a raspberry popsicle and bolt for the gun cabinet.

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Common Ground co-founder and community activist Malik Rahim stands in front of the now infamous barge that floated into a residential neighborhood in the Lower Ninth Ward when the levee on the east bank of the Industrial Canal broke.

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"There's gonna be a fight, anyone try and take my house," says Barbara Young. Her partner, Reginald Sertin, spent that awful night rescuing 300-plus of their Lower Ninth Ward neighbors with a small boat, knocking holes in attics with a piece of scrap iron.
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You can tell the newbies when they get off the road, wide-eyed at the shattered city, the rough conditions. They have come from the land of soap and hot showers, refrigerators and televisions, to an improvised resupply depot in a ruined neighborhood that wasn't the best place to begin with, its houses' moldy contents now lying piled at the curb. Some come for a couple of weeks; some have been here since the storm--a constant turnover of these kids who throw themselves at the endless work, living in close quarters, bathing when they can, wearing the same soiled clothes for days and weeks, laundry service being a rare luxury in New New Orleans.

A gal with facial tattooing and two false eyebrows, dressed in a purple-fringed dress and a fake mink stole and carrying a slide trombone, rides up on a battered Free Spirit three-speed bicycle. Common Ground is like a very irregular military unit--the vehicles are all different colors, no uniforms. It has similar logistical problems. The most glaring difference is that the command and control systems seem an awful lot like herding cats.

It isn't that there are no rules, just fewer of them.

Organized anarchy is the ideal. They're a group of people who reject organization, but who have agreed to a minimal level of organization to ensure that what needs to be done gets done. The main conflict seems to be one of democracy versus efficiency. There is so much diversity, so many voices, that small details of inclusion and sensitivity sometime overtop the main mission--to provide enough assistance to enough people to get them back in their neighborhoods and throw a wrench in the big developers' wet dream.

"This is a service model," Darby says of Common Ground over coffee at Flora, this kooky, cluttered café on Franklin Avenue. When one commits oneself to positive acts, "you can open other doors," he says. Of the efficiency/democracy conflict, he laughs, admitting some totalitarian tendancies. The point is to do as much as you can--sorry if someone's feelings get bruised from time to time.

"I don't want to keep power," he says. "There are many other things I would rather do. I don't consider it a glamorous position."

He's just good at what he does. Darby has taken a solid whack at finding consensus on a lot of levels, knowing that it is better to find similarities than differences. He has the New Orleans Police Department's hierarchy on speed dial; they have regular meetings.

"How long are you gonna do this?" I ask.

He pauses. "Forever, I guess," says he who lost a girlfriend and alienated friends over his choice to uproot his life.

***

The days start early. There are boots on the ground at 7 a.m. or so, breakfast lasts an hour, then a meeting where there are general announcements and conflict resolution, after which the work crews gather, collect tools and depart, off to Plaquemines Parish, Houma or the Lower Ninth Ward, where Common Ground has established a distribution and community center in the most heavily damaged area--a small blue house that somehow survived the wall of flood water high enough to deposit a river barge in the neighborhood, where it remains to this day amid houses smashed together, cars stacked up like cordwood. There has been no movement toward restoring utilities; there are fire hydrants still gushing after four months.

The volunteers are inhabiting the house, violating a 4 p.m. to 8 a.m. curfew (the only neighborhood in the city to still have one). Homeland Security has pulled some "spooky shit," but for now there seems to be a peaceful standoff.

The days are filled with endless, grueling tasks--cutting felled trees; gutting toxic, flooded houses; clearing tons of flotsam; unloading trucks; organizing the growing, nightmarish logistics.

The sheer volume and variety of supplies here is dizzying: crates of hammers, surplus military generators, an unridable cargo trike, piles of paint and studs, bowls of Mardi Gras beads, two tons of chicken, a flooded sewing machine. Semi trailer quantities arrive in a hodgepodge of rental trucks and hippie vans--every day an entire box truck of water arrives and is gone.

It is every post-apocalypse fictional scenario: The physical material of the 35th largest U.S. city rots at the curb. Need a bicycle? Forage. A library of shopworn books arrived, the titles a distillation of New Orleans culture, circa 2006: Voodoo, Baudelaire, Handbook of Carpentry. So much stuff.

The flood zone is a dangerous place, full of toxins and mold, dead animals--you name it. To address the new and ongoing medical issue in this area, Common Ground has established free clinics in several neighborhoods, something that never existed and has become all the more critical now that Charity Hospital, the main indigent health care facility, has been ruined. Another primary focus of Common Ground is to enhance the quality of life. It is no small irony that I had to travel from the center of the medical business--the Triangle--to a disaster region to get a free tetanus shot.

People are gone by 9 a.m., off to the house in the Ninth or the hour's ride into the heart of the forsaken parishes.

Lunches are ferried from the kitchen at Common Ground to the crews, then it's back at it until the sun gets low or the no-see-ums attack. Dusk brings people in for supper and maybe to some dive for a drink (this is New Orleans) and the sort of good, solid sleep one gets from doing something for more than a paycheck.

"Eat," we are constantly encouraged. No one goes wanting here.

"Solidarity Not Charity" reads the motto. Everyone who has been here more than a day knows that it will take more than a semi load of toys at Christmas to begin to heal the wounds the people have experienced, both before and after the storm.

"Help" is a mayfly, temporary. Common Ground goes much deeper than a charity. There are scrupulous training sessions so volunteers can begin to recognize the so-called missionary mind set--that the residents somehow need to be elevated, that the work is something one does for some psychic halo. Contrary to that sort of paternalism, volunteers work alongside the residents, both learning social, civic, political and work skills that will pay off in the future, ones that were hard to learn in the mean streets of the old Ninth Ward.

In the morning, the volunteers get up and do it again, some so green they have little to unlearn. They are so new, they absorb procedures like filling a jar with water. There are no bosses. The volunteers' internal lives are important. If you want to mope in your tent and write poetry all day, you are supported.

One sparkling, gelid morning, I went calling on Rahim, riding to Algiers on the ferry, my mount for the day a Jetsons-styled Sears bicycle; it's a springer front-end model I'd found war riding, a formerly grand machine from an imperial past now corroded stem to stern by TFW (toxic flood water).

At the same kitchen table where he conceived Common Ground, we talk.

"I've been a community organizer my whole life," Rahim says, a leonine man in his 60s with a quick grin and a mane of dreads. "But it seems now, after the storm, everything I did before the storm is a blur."

We talked for an hour and a half, I at times getting goose bumps from the power and conviction of this old veteran.

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A volunteer doctor sweeps the doorway of Common Ground’s free health clinic in Algiers on the West Bank of the Mississippi River. The clinic opened during the first week of January.

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"This is an old man's baby," he says, convinced a new New Orleans is possible, that the city can emerge from the disaster and begin to challenge the corrosive, murderous status quo--racism as refined as a Cartier watch.
"They laughed at us, saying us old militants and hippies would just be having orgies." He smiles. "No one's laughing now."

We are finishing each other's sentences by the time it is over, both agreeing that reaction is a failed model. Those 750,000 people on the streets of D.C. didn't mean squat. The Bush boys just sat behind bulletproof glass, filing their fingernails.

"Just do what you gonna do, act," Rahim says. "They want to react, let 'em."

We conclude the interview. He walks me outside, where the Sears sits by his gate.

"That is real a bicycle there," he says admiringly.

"It's a flood bike."

"I could sort of tell that," he says, squinting with one eye, laughing. "What you gonna do with it?"

"Ride it 'til I leave, I reckon."

"Can I have it when you're gone?"

"Sure. I'll clean it up and paint the tank. What color?"

He laughs. "Don't do nothing to it. I want it just like it is."

***

Utility service is slowly coming back up, streetlights less of a surprise. Riding along the darkened streets, the occasional house ablaze with lights and activity, you hear the sound of saws and hammers removing the molded, toxic interiors.

Common Ground is at the epicenter of the rebirthing of this wounded city--ask anyone.

The lack of recognition doesn't change the fact that when the people of this city were at their most vulnerable, this ragged democracy was the one that stood up for the truly desperate--not the Red Cross, not the Salvation Army, certainly not FEMA.

At one of the morning meetings, while the democracy/efficiency conflict is being batted about, the Rev. Edwin Scott, minister of a local church, tosses in his two cents: "When things were at their worst, Common Ground held this city together," he says. "You are better than most [other relief organizations]. Don't beat yourselves up. No organization is going to exist without problems. The people of this city really appreciate what y'all are doing."

He ends to a round of applause, the dusty, tired people lingering over bowls of oatmeal and cups of tea before heading out to another day.

To learn more about Common Ground Collective, visit http://www.commongroundrelief.org.


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Tis sad to hear this

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don't it make you smile?
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A few of the man's points were valid, and the rest were completely ridiculous. New Orleans obviously needs more help than the average person might think.

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Maybe the Ninth Ward shouldn't be rebuilt... because its BELOW SEA LEVEL! (just a thought)


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simple schoolboy wrote:
Maybe the Ninth Ward shouldn't be rebuilt... because its BELOW SEA LEVEL! (just a thought)


You are so insensitive. *tisk* Those are their HOMES! That's where they LIVED!

How dare you even suggest such hogwash.

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Nagin apologized and retracted the "God" comment.

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