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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:57 pm 
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Dan Rather stepping down in March from CBS News
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November 23, 2004 DAN1124




NEW YORK -- Dan Rather, embattled anchor of the ``CBS Evening News,'' announced Tuesday that he will step down in March, on the 24th anniversary of taking over the job from Walter Cronkite.

The veteran anchor has been under fire in recent months for his role in a ``60 Minutes Wednesday'' story that questioned President Bush's service in the National Guard, which turned out to based on allegedly forged documents.

Rather, 73, said he will continue to work for CBS, as a correspondent for both editions of ``60 Minutes.''

He made no mention of the National Guard story in announcing the change, saying he had agreed with CBS executives last summer that after the Nov. 2 election would be the right time to leave.

``I have always been and remain a `hard news' investigative reporter at heart,'' he said. ``I now look forward to pouring my heart into that kind of reporting full time.''

Dan RatherSuzanne PlunkettAssociated PressCBS did not mention a potential successor.

``He has been an eyewitness to the most important events for more than 40 years and played a crucial role in keeping the American public informed about those events and their larger significance,'' CBS Chairman Leslie Moonves said.

Rather made his name as a reporter covering the Nixon White House. His nearly quarter-century at the helm of the ``CBS Evening News'' is the longest continuous anchor tenure ever for a network evening broadcast.

A report on what went wrong with the National Guard story, from a two-man independent investigative panel, is due imminently. Rather anchored the story and initially defended it when it was criticized.

Rather's announcement comes eight days before his NBC rival, Tom Brokaw, steps down as ``Nightly News'' anchor and is replaced by Brian Williams.

The triumvirate of Rather, Brokaw and ABC's Peter Jennings has ruled network news for more than two decades. Rather dominated ratings after taking over for Cronkite during the 1980s, but he was eclipsed first by Jennings and then by Brokaw. His evening news broadcast generally runs a distant third in the ratings each week.

His hard news style was mixed with a folksy Texan style that led him to rattle off homespun phrases on Election Night. But odd incidents dogged him: In 1987 he walked off the set, leaving CBS with dead air, to protest a decision to let a tennis match delay the news. And his claim that he was accosted on the street by a strange man saying, ``What's the frequency, Kenneth?'' led rock band R.E.M. to write a song with the same name.


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Good riddance. Never liked him.

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What's the frequency, Kenneth?
is your Benzedrine, uh-huh
I was brain-dead, locked out, numb,
not up to speed
I thought I'd pegged you an idiot's dream
Tunnel vision from the outsider's screen
I never understood the frequency, uh-huh
You wore our expectations like an armored suit, uh-huh

I'd studied your cartoons, radio,
music, TV, movies, magazines
Richard said,
"Withdrawal in disgust is not the same as apathy"
A smile like the cartoon,
tooth for a tooth
You said that irony was the shackles of youth
You wore a shirt of violent green, uh-huh
I never understood the frequency, uh-huh

"What's the frequency, Kenneth?"
is your Benzedrine, uh-huh
Butterfly decal, rear-view mirror,
dogging the scene
You smile like the cartoon,
tooth for a tooth
You said that irony was the shackles of youth
You wore a shirt of violent green, uh-huh
I never understood the frequency, uh-huh

You wore our expectations like an armored suit, uh-huh
I couldn't understand
You said that irony was the shackles of youth, uh-huh
I couldn't understand
You wore a shirt of violent green, uh-huh
I couldn't understand
I never understood,
don't fuck with me, uh-huh

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I find it kind of sick that he gets "pressured" into leaving for some forged papers. Yet, the president is destroying a country on false pretenses and people still vote for the moron. How high is the iq count in the states?Or how heartless is the population?


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Dan Rather = :thumbsdown:

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I find it kind of sick that he gets "pressured" into leaving for some forged papers. Yet, the president is destroying a country on false pretenses and people still vote for the moron. How high is the iq count in the states?Or how heartless is the population?


And if he actually felt "pressured" about it all, he would have left when those erroneous memos first hit not half a year later.

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E/F? wrote:
I find it kind of sick that he gets "pressured" into leaving for some forged papers. Yet, the president is destroying a country on false pretenses and people still vote for the moron. How high is the iq count in the states?Or how heartless is the population?


and explain to me again what the american people have to do with forcing dan rather out?


oh thats right, nothing

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E/F? wrote:
I find it kind of sick that he gets "pressured" into leaving for some forged papers. Yet, the president is destroying a country on false pretenses and people still vote for the moron. How high is the iq count in the states?Or how heartless is the population?


I'm more inclined to believe these forged documents were just an excuse to get rid of him and his fat contract. His ratings have been dropping for years (as have all the major network news broadcasts) and Rather probably just isn't worth the cash anymore. This gave the big wigs at CBS the reason they wanted to push him out.

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Peeps wrote:
E/F? wrote:
I find it kind of sick that he gets "pressured" into leaving for some forged papers. Yet, the president is destroying a country on false pretenses and people still vote for the moron. How high is the iq count in the states?Or how heartless is the population?


and explain to me again what the american people have to do with forcing dan rather out?


oh thats right, nothing


Yeah, no kidding. He's old. It's time for him to take a hike.

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I always liked how with great amounts of money CBS has, during the election it chooses to have a camera zoom in on a 1 by 2 foot map of the US to which Dan Rather will point to states with a sharpened yellow #2 wood pencil to indicate location of each state, and whom is ahead in popular vote.


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On how the results are affecting strategists: "It's one reason so many of them drink a lot."

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), on being congratulated on victory by Rather: "Thanks Dan, I always believe you." Rather: "Now, ladies and gentleman, if you believe that, you'll believe rocks can grow."

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conservatives are going to love this

At the very least, he had the balls to step down, unlike Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, etc...who've said stupider things

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conservatives are going to love this

At the very least, he had the balls to step down, unlike Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, etc...who've said stupider things



Rational people already ignore Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell

I hold Rather to a higher standard than those morons.

24 years is a long time, I think it's time for a change frankly and he's going to still get paid and be involved. He's also getting older so this will give him more free time. I honestly don't think he'd be fired.

It was stupid for CBS to run the story period. 40 some odd years of experience and they take the story documents from some jackass in Texas on Kinko copies and run with it, stupid. Fact checking would be good before running a story on National News. Producers should lose their jobs before Rather. His unwillingness to admit they ran a hack story is reason enough to ignore him further. Credibility is all they have to stand on so it's best for CBS and Rather to move on. It's time for someone else to get a chance at that gig, besides a shake up may be good for thier steadily declining ratings. Rather will probably get to focus on stories he feels most strongly about now likely on opinion shows where you can take or leave his comments.

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glorified_version wrote:
conservatives are going to love this

At the very least, he had the balls to step down, unlike Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, etc...who've said stupider things



saying something stupid and putting out forged documents when you work for a national network are two completely different things. And no, I'm not defending Robertson and Falwell. The media has to be able to atleast pretend they have some credibility left, he removed all doubt.


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glorified_version wrote:
conservatives are going to love this

At the very least, he had the balls to step down, unlike Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, etc...who've said stupider things


I thought Falwell had already stepped down during that whole scandalous scene back in the day. Or perhaps I'm thinking of some other TV evangelist.

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The media has to be able to atleast pretend they have some credibility left, he removed all doubt.


That's been shot to hell a long, long, time ago.

Just like only the weak of mind would put faith in the creditability of Pat Robertson and Jerry Farwell to lead them morally.

I think PJ Doll's assessment provides the best logic behind him stepping down.

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Drew263 wrote:
The media has to be able to atleast pretend they have some credibility left, he removed all doubt.


That's been shot to hell a long, long, time ago.

Just like only the weak of mind would put faith in the creditability of Pat Robertson and Jerry Farwell to lead them morally.

I think PJ Doll's assessment provides the best logic behind him stepping down.


puremagic, good to see you.

I think you're probably right. I'd like to think that if someone in the media tried to insult our intelligence so pathetically (used p.o. box 12345), they would get fired, but it didn't happen right away. So PJDoll is probably correct. Oh well, I guess it really doesn't matter.


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I don't see why this is causing such an uproar. This has nothing to do with the forged documents designed to crucify Bush. There were stories reporting that he was stepping in March over the summer. This has nothing to do with the documents.

And this doesn't make me happy as a conservative. Sure, good riddance, the man is a journalistic piece of shit. What does it matter though, the objective clothing in ABC and CBS has been completely stripped away leaving a blatantly liberal bias in these two national networks. CBS will simply replace him with another left leaning news anchor to put a left leaning spin on EVERYTHING that CBS reports.


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Oh yeah, because CBS and ABC...they're "objective" news folks.

Hey, so isn't Fox News...


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well shit, in MY OPINION. if a news source isnt kissing bush's ass. they are all ofa sudden liberal biased. boo.


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