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 Post subject: Re: Rethinking the Drug War
PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:48 pm 
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Seriously, growing mushrooms is actually pretty easy.

its stopping them from growing that becomes an issue...

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EllisEamos wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Seriously, growing mushrooms is actually pretty easy.

its stopping them from growing that becomes an issue...

Do it inside. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Rethinking the Drug War
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EllisEamos wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Seriously, growing mushrooms is actually pretty easy.

its stopping them from growing that becomes an issue...


you mean you would want to grow a shitload and not stop? Sometimes contaminants can ruin a batch before you even get to the fruiting stage but its all about cleanliness and sterilization.


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 Post subject: Re: Rethinking the Drug War
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Veddar10 wrote:
EllisEamos wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Seriously, growing mushrooms is actually pretty easy.

its stopping them from growing that becomes an issue...


you mean you would want to grow a shitload and not stop? Sometimes contaminants can ruin a batch before you even get to the fruiting stage but its all about cleanliness and sterilization.

they're next to godliness.

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EllisEamos wrote:
Veddar10 wrote:
EllisEamos wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Seriously, growing mushrooms is actually pretty easy.

its stopping them from growing that becomes an issue...


you mean you would want to grow a shitload and not stop? Sometimes contaminants can ruin a batch before you even get to the fruiting stage but its all about cleanliness and sterilization.

they're next to godliness.

wanna go for a ride?

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 Post subject: Re: Rethinking the Drug War
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
EllisEamos wrote:
Veddar10 wrote:
EllisEamos wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Seriously, growing mushrooms is actually pretty easy.

its stopping them from growing that becomes an issue...


you mean you would want to grow a shitload and not stop? Sometimes contaminants can ruin a batch before you even get to the fruiting stage but its all about cleanliness and sterilization.

they're next to godliness.

wanna go for a ride?

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 Post subject: Re: Rethinking the Drug War
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:42 pm 
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The bold part should make Kris happy.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110602/wl_ ... commission

Global war on drugs a failure, high-level panel says

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A high-level international commission declared the global "war on drugs" a failure and urged nations to consider legalizing cannabis and other drugs to undermine organized crime and protect their citizens' health.

The Global Commission on Drug Policy called for a new approach to reducing drug abuse to replace the current strategy of strictly criminalizing drugs and incarcerating drug users while battling criminal cartels that control the drug trade.

"The global war on drugs has failed, with devastating consequences for individuals and societies around the world," said the report issued by the commission on Thursday.

The study urges "experimentation by governments with models of legal regulation of drugs," adding: "This recommendation applies especially to cannabis, but we also encourage other experiments in decriminalization and legal regulation."

There are 250 million users of illicit drugs worldwide, with less than a 10th of them classified as dependent, and millions are involved in cultivation, production and distribution, according to U.N. estimates quoted in the report.

The study adds that decriminalization initiatives do not result in significant increases in drug use.

"Now is the time to break the taboo on discussion of all drug policy options, including alternatives to drug prohibition," former Colombian President Cesar Gaviria said.

The 19-member panel includes current Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou and former heads of state, former U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, British businessman Richard Branson and former Secretary of State George Shultz.

The commission said fundamental reforms were urgently needed in national and global drug control policies.

Additional recommendations:

-- Replace the criminalization and punishment of people who are drug users but do not hurt other people with the offer of health and treatment services to those who need them.

-- Countries that continue to invest mostly in a law enforcement approach should focus on violent organized crime and drug traffickers.

-- Promote alternative sentences for small-scale and first-time drug dealers as the majority of these people are not gangsters or organized criminals.

Other members of the panel include former Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo, former Swiss President Ruth Dreifuss, former Brazilian President Fernando Henrique Cardoso and former U.S. Federal Reserve chief Paul Volcker.

The report says "vast expenditure" had been spent on criminalization and repressive measures.

"Repressive efforts directed at consumers impede public health measures to reduce HIV/AIDS, overdose fatalities and other harmful consequences of drug use," it adds.

The commission's report adds that money spent by governments on futile efforts to reduce the supply of drugs and on jailing people on drug-related offenses could be better spent on different ways to reduce drug demand and the harm caused by drug abuse.

The full report is available at http://www.globalcommissionondrugs.org/Report.


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 Post subject: Re: Rethinking the Drug War
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too reasonable; didn't read

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 Post subject: Re: Rethinking the Drug War
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http://twitter.com/#!/FelipeCalderon/st ... 6852306944

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A great blow by federal police against organized crime. One of the most wanted criminals captured. Congratulations.
I couldn't help but laugh at this tweet. I'm sure the #2 guy is also laughing at the thought of the drug war taking a "great blow".


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 Post subject: Re: Rethinking the Drug War
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 Post subject: Re: Rethinking the Drug War
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Why doesn't the US just invade Mexico?

Oh wait...

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 Post subject: Re: Rethinking the Drug War
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Why doesn't the US just invade Mexico?

Oh wait...

whats up?

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 Post subject: Re: Rethinking the Drug War
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Rick Perry Wants to Send the Military into Mexico to Fight Drugs


http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... gs/246007/

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 Post subject: Re: Rethinking the Drug War
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Rick Perry Wants to Send the Military into Mexico to Fight Drugs


http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... gs/246007/


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 Post subject: Re: Rethinking the Drug War
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sigh, want a candidate who wants to treat addicts and try to take away the desire for the supply of said drugs.

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 Post subject: Re: Rethinking the Drug War
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pretty sure that toupee was our worst idea.....then slavery....


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 Post subject: Re: Rethinking the Drug War
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Why exactly is the Obama Justice Department shutting down medical marijuana dispensaries in California? To demonstrate federal supremacy? Because its one of the few things Republicans won't bitch about?


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 Post subject: Re: Rethinking the Drug War
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Here's an ally you might not have thought of in rethinking the drug war: Antonin Scalia!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... story.html

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Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia says the quality of federal judges has suffered because there are too many of them.

Testifying before a Senate committee Wednesday, Scalia blamed Congress for making federal crimes out of too many routine drug cases. In turn, that created a need for more judges.


Too bad he didn't vote the right way in Gonzales v. Raich....


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 Post subject: Re: Rethinking the Drug War
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So I had an interesting talk with a woman I know this weekend over this topic. I'd describe her worldview as stereotypically left wing on nearly every issue. But, when this topic came up in conversation, I found out that she was categorically opposed to expanding the legalization of drugs for recreational purposes. Her primary concern is that once you open up the door in endorsing recreational drugs, you lose control of the restrictions that are placed upon them for medical reasons. In particular, she was horrified at the thought that people could buy potent drugs like Oxycontin or Percocet without a prescription, and they would end up like Heath Ledger or Derek Boogaard.

Now, this argument had little effect on me personally, as I'm an extremist on this issue that believes a person should be able to put whatever he or she wants to in his or her own body. However, it made me think how many people could run into contradicting views on allowing some drugs for recreational use, but not others. There's not really a point for having to get a prescription for Vicodin if you just want to get the buzz from consuming it. At least this woman was rather consistent in how she wanted it to be addressed.


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 Post subject: Re: Rethinking the Drug War
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A woman you know just pulled a Derek Boogaard mention out of the blue? You should probably marry this woman.


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