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I don't want to piss on your thread TOO much, but there's an even more hilarious story brewing, involving hookers and gambling and bribes (bribes that no doubt actually affected national policy, unlike Kennedy's drug habit):
I don't want to piss on your thread TOO much, but there's an even more hilarious story brewing, involving hookers and gambling and bribes (bribes that no doubt actually affected national policy, unlike Kennedy's drug habit):
Oh no! Hooka's and expensive cigars! Politicians partying! *shock and awe*
I find it all equally amusing and disgusting in the same right. Although, it's not like you to bring up rumored allegations to refute something that actually happened and Kennedy's total jackassery.
The cheap shots at Goss are rather cheap. Seriously. You don't honestly think he's resigning because he went to parties and played poker? I guess you're not allowed to do that or something when you're the director of the CIA? Expensive cigars? Oh my.
From what I gather Goss was hated by many people within the CIA, there was too much infighting, he wasn't a people person, he wasn't a communicator, and although he did many necessary things to get the ball rolling on the renovation of the CIA, there were other qualities that required someone new.
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LittleWing wrote:
The cheap shots at Goss are rather cheap. Seriously. You don't honestly think he's resigning because he went to parties and played poker? I guess you're not allowed to do that or something when you're the director of the CIA? Expensive cigars? Oh my.
No, I think he's resigning because he fucked hookers paid for by defense contractors, and that pretty soon, that is going to come to light. But hey, that's neither here nor there about Kennedy.
The Kennedy story is sad and pathetic. I don't know if there is any truth about the Ambien story, and about people sleepwalking on that stuff, but if it is true, then I wouldn't treat this incident like it's just another "drunk Kennedy crashing his car" story.
I heard a commentator on NPR say something that I thought was pretty valid though. He said "If I were a Kennedy and I crashed my car, I would INSIST upon taking a breathalyser to prove I was sober." But then, if what he said is true, and he doesn't even remember the crash, then he wouldn't have been in any frame of mind to be thinking about that sort of thing. Regardless, it was totally wrong of the cops not to make him take a breathalyser test. That just reeks (no pun intended) of corruption and favoritism.
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There are two things that really dig in about this Kennedy crap though.
First, he came out with a press release saying that he definitely was not drinking. No ifs, ands, or but's about it. Then the very next day, he spoke publicly and said that it was because of prescription's he was taking and that he didn't remember ANYTHING about that night.
How on earth did he then remember that he didn't drink anything?
And why did the cops not breathalize him? It's so sad.
Then he comes out a little while later saying that he's been abusing prescription meds for years.
The second thing is media bias. It's so disgusting. Rush Limbaugh, come to find out, had a prescription drug problem, and the media hung him for it. It didn't matter whether it was CNN, NBC, the newsprint, the did everything they could do destroy Limbaugh.
A Kennedy comes out with the same thing, and CNN in just one day has pieces done up on how real the problems associated with Ambien are, criminalizing the drug, and defending Kennedy. All the while the likes of right wing radio have nothing but well wishes for the man.
In other news.
Come to Ted and Patrick Kennedy's Driving School!
Bring your own hookers, bring your own drugs.
I took Ambien when I was in the hospital last year. I woke up and had no idea where I was or anything that I had done the previous day. It was pretty scary, about 6-7 hours after I woke up, I was able to remember pretty much everything from the previous day. Needless to say, I will never take Ambien or any other sleep medication again.
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Unless someone can sum this thread up for me in 10 words or less, it's gonna be a day or two before I can comment.
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Peeps wrote:
B wrote:
Unless someone can sum this thread up for me in 10 words or less, it's gonna be a day or two before I can comment.
lets jump on bush for nothing and ignore the kennedys
I'm not ignoring the kennedys. LittleWing's original post was kinda like watching Natural Born Killers in fast forward. I made a plea for coherrence.
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LittleWing wrote:
The second thing is media bias. It's so disgusting. Rush Limbaugh, come to find out, had a prescription drug problem, and the media hung him for it. It didn't matter whether it was CNN, NBC, the newsprint, the did everything they could do destroy Limbaugh.
You don't see anything different between Kennedy admitting to having a drug problem, and a man who said this:
"What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use, too many whites are getting away with drug sales, too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too."
... getting nailed for drug use by the cops?
Seriously, drug abuse is a problem, I'm not saying it isn't, but the torrential downpour of hypocrisy is drowning everyone in DC.
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The second thing is media bias. It's so disgusting. Rush Limbaugh, come to find out, had a prescription drug problem, and the media hung him for it. It didn't matter whether it was CNN, NBC, the newsprint, the did everything they could do destroy Limbaugh.
You don't see anything different between Kennedy admitting to having a drug problem, and a man who said this:
"What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use, too many whites are getting away with drug sales, too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too."
... getting nailed for drug use by the cops?
Seriously, drug abuse is a problem, I'm not saying it isn't, but the torrential downpour of hypocrisy is drowning everyone in DC.
Patrick Kennedy has been in and out of clinics and fighting this problem for twelve years. How is it any different than Rush? This man is a fucking politician, who's drafting national policy. This is a man who has been re-elected to office. It's not exactly like he's been honest and open about it.
Let's go further. He hid it for all that time. Think about that and compair it to Rush who made those comments before he fell into his addiction.
If the media would have tried to let this go like senior capitol police officials, nobody would have known this happened in the first place, and Kennedy would have never admitted it. It's only because of the lies, the police cover up, and his story that makes no sense and is in and of itself lies that he even came out and said all that BS.
If he hadn't of almost smashed into a police officer, before smashing into a tree, he'd still be lying to the world, hiding, and covering up his addiction.
And that ignores the question as to whether he is also abusing alcohol. You have the manager of a beltway establishment coming out and saying that Kennedy frequents the place often, and drinks. So not only is he abusing two meds that shouldn't be mixed together in the first place, but he's also drinking on top of it.
Kennedy's lies quickly caught up with him. He lied about it for a real long time. Stop trying to make him look like anything less than Rush, because what he did is waaaay worse than Rush. Thankfully, Rush doesn't mold national policy.
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LittleWing wrote:
B wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
The second thing is media bias. It's so disgusting. Rush Limbaugh, come to find out, had a prescription drug problem, and the media hung him for it. It didn't matter whether it was CNN, NBC, the newsprint, the did everything they could do destroy Limbaugh.
You don't see anything different between Kennedy admitting to having a drug problem, and a man who said this:
"What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use, too many whites are getting away with drug sales, too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too."
... getting nailed for drug use by the cops?
Seriously, drug abuse is a problem, I'm not saying it isn't, but the torrential downpour of hypocrisy is drowning everyone in DC.
Patrick Kennedy has been in and out of clinics and fighting this problem for twelve years. How is it any different than Rush? This man is a fucking politician, who's drafting national policy. This is a man who has been re-elected to office. It's not exactly like he's been honest and open about it.
Let's go further. He hid it for all that time. Think about that and compair it to Rush who made those comments before he fell into his addiction.
If the media would have tried to let this go like senior capitol police officials, nobody would have known this happened in the first place, and Kennedy would have never admitted it. It's only because of the lies, the police cover up, and his story that makes no sense and is in and of itself lies that he even came out and said all that BS.
If he hadn't of almost smashed into a police officer, before smashing into a tree, he'd still be lying to the world, hiding, and covering up his addiction.
And that ignores the question as to whether he is also abusing alcohol. You have the manager of a beltway establishment coming out and saying that Kennedy frequents the place often, and drinks. So not only is he abusing two meds that shouldn't be mixed together in the first place, but he's also drinking on top of it.
Kennedy's lies quickly caught up with him. He lied about it for a real long time. Stop trying to make him look like anything less than Rush, because what he did is waaaay worse than Rush. Thankfully, Rush doesn't mold national policy.
Um....what?
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Looking at partisan sources—including government officials, party officials, campaign workers and consultants—Republicans outnumbered Democrats by more than 3 to 2 (61 percent to 38 percent). A majority of Republican sources when the GOP controls the White House and Congress may not be surprising, but Republicans held a similar though slightly smaller edge (57 percent to 42 percent) in 1993, when Clinton was president and Democrats controlled both houses of Congress. And a lively race for the Democratic presidential nomination was beginning to heat up at the time of the 2003 study.
Partisans from outside the two major parties were almost nowhere to be seen, with the exception of four Libertarian Party representatives who appeared in a single story (Morning Edition , 6/26/03).
Republicans not only had a substantial partisan edge, individual Republicans were NPR ’s most popular sources overall, taking the top seven spots in frequency of appearance. George Bush led all sources for the month with 36 appearances, followed by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld (8) and Sen. Pat Roberts (6). Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, Secretary of State Colin Powell, White House press secretary Ari Fleischer and Iraq proconsul Paul Bremer all tied with five appearances each.
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LittleWing wrote:
The second thing is media bias. It's so disgusting. Rush Limbaugh, come to find out, had a prescription drug problem, and the media hung him for it. It didn't matter whether it was CNN, NBC, the newsprint, the did everything they could do destroy Limbaugh.
I was just wondering do you actually have any examples of the mainstream media hanging Rush Limbaugh for his prescription drug problem or do you think just because they reported it, this is of course evidence of media bias? Because as we all know Rush Limbaugh is the only celebrity with a drug problem that the media has ever reported on.
I was biding my time to see if this was ever going to show up here. I knew eventually it would be a Conservative to finally find the story and speak up. I almost wrote about it yesterday. It was going to highlight what an unfairly slanted place the News and Debate forum here is to the Conservative policys. You guys made my point for me without even trying. Thanks.
BTW, just because you report a Democrat making a mistake does not mean your party is fatally flawed. You guys are like the opposite of Fox News.
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zxlr8 wrote:
I was biding my time to see if this was ever going to show up here. I knew eventually it would be a Conservative to finally find the story and speak up. I almost wrote about it yesterday. It was going to highlight what an unfairly slanted place the News and Debate forum here is to the Conservative policys. You guys made my point for me without even trying. Thanks.
BTW, just because you report a Democrat making a mistake does not mean your party is fatally flawed. You guys are like the opposite of Fox News.
Just like how you and Little Wing contributed sooo much to the ongoing Tom DeLay thread.
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I was biding my time to see if this was ever going to show up here. I knew eventually it would be a Conservative to finally find the story and speak up. I almost wrote about it yesterday. It was going to highlight what an unfairly slanted place the News and Debate forum here is to the Conservative policys. You guys made my point for me without even trying. Thanks.
BTW, just because you report a Democrat making a mistake does not mean your party is fatally flawed. You guys are like the opposite of Fox News.
Just like how you and Little Wing contributed sooo much to the ongoing Tom DeLay thread.
Any thread that has a four letter word in the title is never going to get my time reading it. Even if it was talking about a poor demorcrat.
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You guys are like the opposite of Fox News.
