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 Post subject: Prostitution vs. Pornography
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:49 am 
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This is a serious question that I'd like to get some feedback about. It's not "Frank's just being his dirty ol' self" type of thing. I think I'm bringing up a legitimate question. I didn't want to start this thread in GD because I'm looking for intelligent answers, not "fuck her sister" jokes.

Why is prostitution illegal yet participating in pornographic films is not? In both instances, people profit by having some sort of sexual intercourse. In fact, there's a lot more fiscal compensation thrown the way of the people filming and distributing the pornography than a prostitute and possibly her pimp.

Also, some may claim that prostitutes spread STD's, which I won't refute. But so do porn stars. It certainly happens less frequently, but it happens. And maybe, just maybe, if prostitution were legal, it could be better controlled and thus cut down massively on the exchanges of sexually transmitted diseases. :idea:

Does it really go all the way back to Biblical principle, in which prostitution is seen as a disgusting sin? If you break down what prostitution is, it's merely someone selling their body for money. Pornography is the same thing, only it's recorded and later viewed by others for self-gratification. But it's still people profiting from sex. What is the difference?

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 Post subject: Re: Prostitution vs. Pornography
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:lol: Fuck, I started this in the wrong forum. Mods, please move this. :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: Prostitution vs. Pornography
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 Post subject: Re: Prostitution vs. Pornography
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Prostitution is legal in Holland and much better controlled.

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You just said it.

STDs are controlled a hell of a better in porn than in prostitution. Also, in porn, both sides consider it "work" (believe it or not). It's not like these dudes are living in a dreamworld fucking hot chicks all day. They have to "schedule" themselves so they blow big loads, they have to stop every 30 seconds for photographers to take pics, screw women they're not attracted to, and redo scenes even when exhausted. In the end, they're well compensated, but it was an effort. With prostitution, there's no effort; just fucking.

I also believe that prostitution will contribute towards an even more degraded society because dudes will lack the motivation to get pussy on their own. If there's a way to fully maintain and control it, then it's fine by me.

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in porn it is very controlled, every aspect of it. actors and actresses are tested every few months, with prostitution of the illegal kind, (youd have to be the ugliest mother fucker on the planet or homliest person on the planet if you have to pay for a street walker) you may as well just sit in a baby pool full of crabs, the clap and ghonnorea while going down the genital warts slide

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Peeps wrote:
in porn it is very controlled, every aspect of it. actors and actresses are tested every few months, with prostitution of the illegal kind, (youd have to be the ugliest mother fucker on the planet or homliest person on the planet if you have to pay for a street walker) you may as well just sit in a baby pool full of crabs, the clap and ghonnorea while going down the genital warts slide


This is my point. If prostitution were legal, like pornography, it could be better controlled and cut down on the STD exchange. And because it's legal, there would be people accountable (on both the buyer and seller's side). When I say that it should be legal, I mean having prostitution dens with owners who agree to state and federal laws such as testing and screening.

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dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
Peeps wrote:
in porn it is very controlled, every aspect of it. actors and actresses are tested every few months, with prostitution of the illegal kind, (youd have to be the ugliest mother fucker on the planet or homliest person on the planet if you have to pay for a street walker) you may as well just sit in a baby pool full of crabs, the clap and ghonnorea while going down the genital warts slide


This is my point. If prostitution were legal, like pornography, it could be better controlled and cut down on the STD exchange. And because it's legal, there would be people accountable (on both the buyer and seller's side). When I say that it should be legal, I mean having prostitution dens with owners who agree to state and federal laws such as testing and screening.


move to vegas and visit the bunny ranch :)

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Sunny wrote:
You just said it.

STDs are controlled a hell of a better in porn than in prostitution. Also, in porn, both sides consider it "work" (believe it or not). It's not like these dudes are living in a dreamworld fucking hot chicks all day. They have to "schedule" themselves so they blow big loads, they have to stop every 30 seconds for photographers to take pics, screw women they're not attracted to, and redo scenes even when exhausted. In the end, they're well compensated, but it was an effort. With prostitution, there's no effort; just fucking.

I also believe that prostitution will contribute towards an even more degraded society because dudes will lack the motivation to get pussy on their own. If there's a way to fully maintain and control it, then it's fine by me.


As far as your work argument goes, I really am not following. So the government says it's okay for prostitution of pornographers to be legal simply because they're putting forth a documented effort? Please explain.

And your claim of prostitution creating a more "degraded" society really doesn't hold up, either. Do you think the majority of people of any given country just want sex, and not companionship, for the rest of their lives? Do you think that men or women actually adjust their budgets based on how many times a week or month they're gonna pay for sex?

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And your claim of prostitution creating a more "degraded" society really doesn't hold up, either. Do you think the majority of people of any given country just want sex, and not companionship, for the rest of their lives? Do you think that men or women actually adjust their budgets based on how many times a week or month they're gonna pay for sex?


majority no, but you live near philly, you cant tell me there arent hundreds of prostitutes out there, and for every 10 that get arrested 20 dont take their place. there are alot of people looking to bust a nut, male or female, by not using their own hand

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Peeps wrote:
dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
And your claim of prostitution creating a more "degraded" society really doesn't hold up, either. Do you think the majority of people of any given country just want sex, and not companionship, for the rest of their lives? Do you think that men or women actually adjust their budgets based on how many times a week or month they're gonna pay for sex?


majority no, but you live near philly, you cant tell me there arent hundreds of prostitutes out there, and for every 10 that get arrested 20 dont take their place. there are alot of people looking to bust a nut, male or female, by not using their own hand


Oh I agree with this 100%. But Sunny's argument is that legalizing prostitution would lead to people not putting forth an effort to cultivate relationships, and I'm not buying that. Again, this thread is about the hypocrisy behind pornography being legal but prostitution illegal.

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dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
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dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
And your claim of prostitution creating a more "degraded" society really doesn't hold up, either. Do you think the majority of people of any given country just want sex, and not companionship, for the rest of their lives? Do you think that men or women actually adjust their budgets based on how many times a week or month they're gonna pay for sex?


majority no, but you live near philly, you cant tell me there arent hundreds of prostitutes out there, and for every 10 that get arrested 20 dont take their place. there are alot of people looking to bust a nut, male or female, by not using their own hand


Oh I agree with this 100%. But Sunny's argument is that legalizing prostitution would lead to people not putting forth an effort to cultivate relationships, and I'm not buying that. Again, this thread is about the hypocrisy behind pornography being legal but prostitution illegal.
hypocrisy in this country, about laws? :shock: NO! i just can't believe it! maybe, and this is just a thought so don't freak out on it, someone doesn't want women taking so much control of their sex lives and profiting so well from it.


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Peeps wrote:
dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
Peeps wrote:
in porn it is very controlled, every aspect of it. actors and actresses are tested every few months, with prostitution of the illegal kind, (youd have to be the ugliest mother fucker on the planet or homliest person on the planet if you have to pay for a street walker) you may as well just sit in a baby pool full of crabs, the clap and ghonnorea while going down the genital warts slide


This is my point. If prostitution were legal, like pornography, it could be better controlled and cut down on the STD exchange. And because it's legal, there would be people accountable (on both the buyer and seller's side). When I say that it should be legal, I mean having prostitution dens with owners who agree to state and federal laws such as testing and screening.


move to vegas and visit the bunny ranch :)

isabella soprano is the only gal i am willing to lay 1K down to do dirty dirty things to, legally


Considering she's about the only attractive girl they have there and everyone wants to get with her, it's probably safe to say it's like parking a Volkswagen Beetle in an airplane hangar with that chick.

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Legally, the person who's paying can't be the one fucking.

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 Post subject: Re: Prostitution vs. Pornography
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Oh here's the argument to end this thread:


THE GOVERNMENT RECEIVES TAXES ON PORNO SALES.


Tobacco, alcohol, stocks trades, porn, income, etc. Everything that shouldn't be taxed, the government wants a piece of it anyways. Everything that they can't collect off of, they make illegal.

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Considering she's about the only attractive girl they have there and everyone wants to get with her, it's probably safe to say it's like parking a Volkswagen Beetle in an airplane hangar with that chick.




my stomach isnt the only thing girthy ;)

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Peeps wrote:
flavdave wrote:
Considering she's about the only attractive girl they have there and everyone wants to get with her, it's probably safe to say it's like parking a Volkswagen Beetle in an airplane hangar with that chick.




my stomach isnt the only thing girthy ;)



Oh God. Peeps, put that in a spoiler or something :throwup: :lol:

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Sunny wrote:
Oh here's the argument to end this thread:


THE GOVERNMENT RECEIVES TAXES ON PORNO SALES.


Tobacco, alcohol, stocks trades, porn, income, etc. Everything that shouldn't be taxed, the government wants a piece of it anyways. Everything that they can't collect off of, they make illegal.



Why couldnt they tax prostitution if they made it legal?


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hypocrisy in this country, about laws? :shock: NO! i just can't believe it! maybe, and this is just a thought so don't freak out on it, someone doesn't want women taking so much control of their sex lives and profiting so well from it.



It's like you're living in my head, Theresa.

I especially like how you added the qualifier in there for all the insecure little boys on here. Wish I had that kind of patience with them...

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dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
Also, some may claim that prostitutes spread STD's, which I won't refute. But so do porn stars. It certainly happens less frequently, but it happens. And maybe, just maybe, if prostitution were legal, it could be better controlled and thus cut down massively on the exchanges of sexually transmitted diseases. :idea:


I don't think there's a "maybe" about it--the answer is yes. Take a look at the regulations (both self-imposed and governmental) that Nevada brothels are placed with. The dangers of illegal prostitution are not because of the nature of the profession, but because it's illegal.

To answer your question, I haven't the foggiest idea. But I think both should be legal.


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