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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:52 pm 
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Starbucks targeted over high-fat products
By Abha Bhattarai

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Starbucks Corp. may be next on the target list of a consumer-health group that this week sued the operator of the KFC fried chicken restaurant chain for frying foods in oils high in harmful trans fat.

The Center for Science in the Public Interest said it is planning to campaign against the global cafe chain because of the increased risk of obesity, heart disease and cancer associated with high-calorie, high-fat products it sells.

And the possibility of legal action against Starbucks, similar to the case it is taking against KFC owner Yum Brands Inc., has not been ruled out, said CSPI executive director Michael F. Jacobson.

"Regular consumers of Starbucks products could face Venti-sized health problems," Jacobson said, referring to Starbucks' use of the 'Venti' designation for 'large.'

The group is primarily funded by newsletter subscribers and individual donors. It has support in the campaign from the small IWW Starbucks Workers Union, which has members in three stores, all in New York.

They would like Starbucks to list nutrition information -- which is currently available online and in store brochures -- on its menu boards.

"Customers can ask for nutrition information, but when you're talking about a transparent business in a busy world, that's not enough," union organizer and Starbucks "barista" staff member Daniel Gross said in an interview.

He said the company should use healthier shortenings without trans fat, and publicize its smallest size, "short," which is available but does not appear on the menu.

The union contends that Starbucks staff gain weight when they work at the chain. They are offered unlimited beverages and leftover pastries for free during their shifts.

A 20-ounce Venti banana mocha Frappuccino with whipped cream contains 720 calories and 11 grams of saturated fat, and a banana cream crunch bar weighs in at 630 calories and 25 grams of saturated fat. By comparison, a McDonald's Corp. Big Mac has 560 calories and 11 grams of saturated fat.

A Starbucks spokesman said in a statement it is "actively researching" alternatives to high-fat products. The company said it plans to eliminate trans fat from seasonal baked goods -- but not necessarily other products -- by this fall.

"In our beverage ingredients, we have reformulated any component that contained significant artificial trans fat content," the spokesman said.

Wendy's International Inc. and Panera Bread Co. have recently announced efforts to reduce or eliminate trans fats from their menus. Trans fat is an artery-clogging solid fat found in partially hydrogenated oils.

"Most people are taking the trans fat out of their foods because they raise the risk of heart disease and obesity," said Marion Nestle, professor of nutrition at NYU. "There's a lot of pressure to do so, especially since the (KFC) lawsuit."

Jacobson said Starbucks may have been spared the scrutiny fast-food chains received recently because of its health-conscious image.

"People expect foods from Dunkin' Donuts to be unhealthy, but Starbucks has more of an upper middle class, healthy, hip, politically correct facade," Jacobson said. "But the food is just as harmful to your arteries."

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Give me a fucking break. If you don't care to ask what's in your food, you have absolutely no right to bitch about it making you fat.


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Two quotes really cracked me up here:

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"Customers can ask for nutrition information, but when you're talking about a transparent business in a busy world, that's not enough," union organizer and Starbucks "barista" staff member Daniel Gross said in an interview.


What the fuck is that supposed to mean? (transparent). If customers can ask and receive info, and make an informed decision, that IS enough.

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"People expect foods from Dunkin' Donuts to be unhealthy, but Starbucks has more of an upper middle class, healthy, hip, politically correct facade," Jacobson said. "But the food is just as harmful to your arteries."


So the blue-collar, low-class, politically incorrect consumers are expected to be fat with poor cardiovascular problems. Talk about stereotyping! :haha:


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"People expect foods from Dunkin' Donuts to be unhealthy, but Starbucks has more of an upper middle class, healthy, hip, politically correct facade," Jacobson said. "But the food is just as harmful to your arteries."


What the hell does this mean? That he could care less about those low to lower-middle class people that tend to go to Dunkin' Donuts?


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What the hell is a 'transparent' business? You have to love an ambivalent phrase devoid of any actual concrete meaning. And yeah, that's some nice stereotyping toward the middle and lower class individual in the article.

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Chris_H_2 wrote:
broken_iris wrote:
"People expect foods from Dunkin' Donuts to be unhealthy, but Starbucks has more of an upper middle class, healthy, hip, politically correct facade," Jacobson said. "But the food is just as harmful to your arteries."


What the hell does this mean? That he could care less about those low to lower-middle class people that tend to go to Dunkin' Donuts?


Wow that is so insanely insulting. That would be like saying people expect french fries at the Ritz Carlton to be healthier than french fries from McDonalds.

Maybe they do.....


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I don't go to Starbucks for my meal. I go there for coffee and occassionally desert.

News bulletin - Desert may be fattening for you.


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loralei wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
broken_iris wrote:
"People expect foods from Dunkin' Donuts to be unhealthy, but Starbucks has more of an upper middle class, healthy, hip, politically correct facade," Jacobson said. "But the food is just as harmful to your arteries."


What the hell does this mean? That he could care less about those low to lower-middle class people that tend to go to Dunkin' Donuts?


Wow that is so insanely insulting. That would be like saying people expect french fries at the Ritz Carlton to be healthier than french fries from McDonalds.

Maybe they do.....


Or that we're only suing the Ritz Carlton to stop them from serving fattening foods because its clientele tend to be richer and more sophisticated and, thus, worth protecting (as opposed to those people that eat at McDonalds).


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I thought coffee was fat-free! :shock:

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I thought coffee was fat-free! :shock:

http://www.starbucks.com/retail/nutrition_beverages.asp

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I thought coffee was fat-free! :shock:

http://www.starbucks.com/retail/nutrition_beverages.asp

-Sunny


My favorite! The 20oz., brewed coffee of the week, black:

Calories 15
Fat Calories 0
Total Fat (g) 0
Saturated Fat (g) 0
Cholesterol (mg) 0
Sodium (mg) 0
Total Carbohydrates (g) 3
Fiber (g) 0
Sugars (g) 0
Protein (g) 0
Vitamin A 0%
Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 0%
Iron 0%

Seriously, anyone that drinks those pussy, fat-laden drinks with wild abandon, deserves to be fat.

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B wrote:
Sunny wrote:
B wrote:
I thought coffee was fat-free! :shock:

http://www.starbucks.com/retail/nutrition_beverages.asp

-Sunny

Seriously, anyone that drinks those pussy, fat-laden drinks with wild abandon, deserves to be fat.


I'm gonna agree with you here. The point of coffee (IMO) is to wake me the fuck up. Adding cream and sugar is pretty uneccesary. Besides, I've developed a taste for black coffee too.

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Sunny wrote:
B wrote:
Sunny wrote:
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I thought coffee was fat-free! :shock:

http://www.starbucks.com/retail/nutrition_beverages.asp

-Sunny

Seriously, anyone that drinks those pussy, fat-laden drinks with wild abandon, deserves to be fat.


I'm gonna agree with you here. The point of coffee (IMO) is to wake me the fuck up. Adding cream and sugar is pretty uneccesary. Besides, I've developed a taste for black coffee too.

-Sunny


Same here. Black coffee is the way to go. If you can't handle your morning java without a cup of cream and 4 packets of sugar, coffee probably isn't the beverage for you.


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Same here. Black coffee is the way to go. If you can't handle your morning java without a cup of cream and 4 packets of sugar, coffee probably isn't the beverage for you.


I think Texas missed this memo.

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MF wrote:
Sunny wrote:
B wrote:
Sunny wrote:
B wrote:
I thought coffee was fat-free! :shock:

http://www.starbucks.com/retail/nutrition_beverages.asp

-Sunny

Seriously, anyone that drinks those pussy, fat-laden drinks with wild abandon, deserves to be fat.


I'm gonna agree with you here. The point of coffee (IMO) is to wake me the fuck up. Adding cream and sugar is pretty uneccesary. Besides, I've developed a taste for black coffee too.

-Sunny


Same here. Black coffee is the way to go. If you can't handle your morning java without a cup of cream and 4 packets of sugar, coffee probably isn't the beverage for you.

*drinks Coke*

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punkdavid wrote:
MF wrote:
Sunny wrote:
B wrote:
Sunny wrote:
B wrote:
I thought coffee was fat-free! :shock:

http://www.starbucks.com/retail/nutrition_beverages.asp

-Sunny

Seriously, anyone that drinks those pussy, fat-laden drinks with wild abandon, deserves to be fat.


I'm gonna agree with you here. The point of coffee (IMO) is to wake me the fuck up. Adding cream and sugar is pretty uneccesary. Besides, I've developed a taste for black coffee too.

-Sunny


Same here. Black coffee is the way to go. If you can't handle your morning java without a cup of cream and 4 packets of sugar, coffee probably isn't the beverage for you.

*drinks Coke*


*shits like a geyser after drinking coffee*

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I rarely drink coffee. I really like a cup or two after an excellent meal, especially if I've had two or three drinks during the meal (part of what makes it excellent). I used to enjoy relaxing with a cup of coffee on a Saturday or Sunday morning at home, but now that I have kids, I never relax at home, so I don't anymore.

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People are stupid.

I often tell some of my coworkers that their latte has 300 calories in it and they choose not to believe.

They deserve to be fat. and it isn't starbucks fault.

Venti coffe for me please, black


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He said the company should use healthier shortenings without trans fat, and publicize its smallest size, "short," which is available but does not appear on the menu.


:lol:

that's because the short cup is absurdly small. it's for espresso, goddamnit.

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Chris_H_2 wrote:
loralei wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
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"People expect foods from Dunkin' Donuts to be unhealthy, but Starbucks has more of an upper middle class, healthy, hip, politically correct facade," Jacobson said. "But the food is just as harmful to your arteries."


What the hell does this mean? That he could care less about those low to lower-middle class people that tend to go to Dunkin' Donuts?


Wow that is so insanely insulting. That would be like saying people expect french fries at the Ritz Carlton to be healthier than french fries from McDonalds.

Maybe they do.....


Or that we're only suing the Ritz Carlton to stop them from serving fattening foods because its clientele tend to be richer and more sophisticated and, thus, worth protecting (as opposed to those people that eat at McDonalds).


Yeah this dude pissed me off. And you don't want to piss of a loyal dunkin donuts patron.


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