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I think this has potential for rich debate.

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Prison Disciplines Inmate Who Paints With M&M’s

By ADAM LIPTAK
Published: August 4, 2006

A prison artist in California who uses the dye from M&M’s for paint has been disciplined for what a prison official yesterday called “unauthorized business dealings” in the sale of his paintings. The prison has also barred the prisoner, Donny Johnson, from sending his paintings through the mail.

Behind Bars, He Turns M&M’s Into an Art Form (July 21, 2006)Mr. Johnson’s work has been on display for the last several weeks at a gallery in San Miguel de Allende, Mexico. Twenty of his paintings have been sold, for $500 each.

Mr. Johnson had donated the paintings to the Pelican Bay Prison Project, a charity which says it will honor Mr. Johnson’s wish that it use the proceeds from the show to help the children of prisoners.

According to a “serious rules violation report” issued by the prison last month, Mr. Johnson ran afoul of a corrections department regulation that prohibits engaging in a business or profession without the warden’s permission. The regulation defines a business as “any revenue-generating or profit-making activity.”

Francisco Jacquez, the chief deputy warden at Pelican Bay State Prison, in Crescent City, Calif., said the violation could extend Mr. Johnson’s sentence or restrict his privileges. “There are some consequences, and that’s what we use to maintain discipline in prison,” Mr. Jacquez said, declining to be more specific.

Stephen A. Kurtz, a founder and director of the charity, said the discipline was unwarranted. “He wasn’t doing business,” Mr. Kurtz said of Mr. Johnson. “He was simply making a donation. He didn’t make a penny off this.”

The discipline was prompted by a front-page article about Mr. Johnson in The New York Times last month, according to the violation report. Pamela B. Hooley, a deputy attorney general, sent a copy of the article to prison officials on the day it appeared, the report said.

Mr. Johnson, who is 46, is serving three life sentences. He pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in 1980 for a drug-related killing, drawing a sentence of 15 years to life. In 1989, he was convicted of slashing the throat of one guard and assaulting another. Those crimes resulted in two additional sentences of nine years to life.

He has been in solitary confinement in a small concrete cell for almost two decades. He paints with a brush he created with plastic wrap, foil and his own hair. He makes paint by leaching the colors from M&M’s in little plastic containers that once held packets of grape jelly. His canvases are postcards.

It is not clear whether the prison will stop Mr. Johnson from creating paintings. In a recent postcard to his mother, Mr. Johnson wrote that prison officials have stopped him from mailing his art to his family, friends and supporters.

A lawyer for Mr. Johnson, Charles Carbone, said he was considering bringing a legal challenge.

The United States and California Supreme Courts have struck down laws that would have prohibited people convicted of crimes from profiting from them. But courts have been reluctant to interfere with prison administration, even where First Amendment issues are involved. In June, for instance, the United States Supreme Court upheld a Pennsylvania prison policy that denied access to newspapers and magazines to some inmates.


Seems stupid to waste effort disciplining someone who donated all of their money to charity. Is anyone else amazed that the dude figured out how to make paint out of the coloring from his M&Ms??? :shock:

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There's a slideshow of his artwork on this page:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/04/us/04 ... ei=5087%0A

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hes a pretty good artist.

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This is Sad :(

I don't see how this can be a big deal if he isn't personally making money off of it.

Authority for the sake of authority?

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This is Sad :(

I don't see how this can be a big deal if he isn't personally making money off of it.

Authority for the sake of authority?


Even if he was making money ... I don't care. From the last paragraph in the article, it appears as though it's his right. But I don't understand, if he is allowed (per the Supremes), how the prison is allowed to stop him.

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I don't understand why the guy can't donate the money he's making, just seems well, stupid.

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I don't understand why the guy can't donate the money he's making, just seems well, stupid.


He's not allowed to make the money in the first place.

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I don't understand why the guy can't donate the money he's making, just seems well, stupid.


He's not allowed to make the money in the first place.


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God forbid he should be allowed to contribute to society.


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aww come on...let the guy broke the monotony prison life..


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B wrote:
Is anyone else amazed that the dude figured out how to make paint out of the coloring from his M&Ms??? :shock:


C'mon B, compared to making wine in a toilet with fruit juice, dirty socks and bread, painting with m&m's is a cakewalk :wink: .


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God forbid he should be allowed to contribute to society.


God forbid he should be allowed to make money off of his crimes. Oh wait, that's why the laws are in place.

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Zutballs wrote:
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God forbid he should be allowed to contribute to society.


God forbid he should be allowed to make money off of his crimes. Oh wait, that's why the laws are in place.


Read the last paragraph.

"The United States and California Supreme Courts have struck down laws that would have prohibited people convicted of crimes from profiting from them."

He's allowed to make money off of his crimes. He's NOT allowed to run a business from his prison cell without the warden's permission.

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B wrote:
Zutballs wrote:
Buggy wrote:
God forbid he should be allowed to contribute to society.


God forbid he should be allowed to make money off of his crimes. Oh wait, that's why the laws are in place.


Read the last paragraph.

"The United States and California Supreme Courts have struck down laws that would have prohibited people convicted of crimes from profiting from them."

He's allowed to make money off of his crimes. He's NOT allowed to run a business from his prison cell without the warden's permission.


That's bullsh*t. F#&k prisoners rights.

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Zutballs wrote:
B wrote:
Zutballs wrote:
Buggy wrote:
God forbid he should be allowed to contribute to society.


God forbid he should be allowed to make money off of his crimes. Oh wait, that's why the laws are in place.


Read the last paragraph.

"The United States and California Supreme Courts have struck down laws that would have prohibited people convicted of crimes from profiting from them."

He's allowed to make money off of his crimes. He's NOT allowed to run a business from his prison cell without the warden's permission.


That's bullsh*t. F#&k prisoners rights.


*shrug* Constitution gives us rights even if we're convicted of a crime.

It doesn't sound like you'd support this either, but I don't see how it's any different than some dude writing a book.

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B wrote:
Zutballs wrote:
B wrote:
Zutballs wrote:
Buggy wrote:
God forbid he should be allowed to contribute to society.


God forbid he should be allowed to make money off of his crimes. Oh wait, that's why the laws are in place.


Read the last paragraph.

"The United States and California Supreme Courts have struck down laws that would have prohibited people convicted of crimes from profiting from them."

He's allowed to make money off of his crimes. He's NOT allowed to run a business from his prison cell without the warden's permission.


That's bullsh*t. F#&k prisoners rights.


*shrug* Constitution gives us rights even if we're convicted of a crime.

It doesn't sound like you'd support this either, but I don't see how it's any different than some dude writing a book.


I don't think its fair to the victim's families. The only reason he's making money (for charity or not) is because of his crime. Prison gives him a venue to sell his work. I'm shocked to see that this law was overturned.

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Zutballs wrote:
B wrote:
Zutballs wrote:
B wrote:
Zutballs wrote:
Buggy wrote:
God forbid he should be allowed to contribute to society.


God forbid he should be allowed to make money off of his crimes. Oh wait, that's why the laws are in place.


Read the last paragraph.

"The United States and California Supreme Courts have struck down laws that would have prohibited people convicted of crimes from profiting from them."

He's allowed to make money off of his crimes. He's NOT allowed to run a business from his prison cell without the warden's permission.


That's bullsh*t. F#&k prisoners rights.


*shrug* Constitution gives us rights even if we're convicted of a crime.

It doesn't sound like you'd support this either, but I don't see how it's any different than some dude writing a book.


I don't think its fair to the victim's families. The only reason he's making money (for charity or not) is because of his crime. Prison gives him a venue to sell his work. I'm shocked to see that this law was overturned.

Yeah that First Amendment is a bitch.

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Aren't prisoners not allowed to vote? If we can keep them voting shouldn't we be able to keep them from making M&M art?


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God forbid he should be allowed to contribute to society.
isn't the point of prison to remove someone from society as a punishment for his or her crimes?

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knuckles of frisco wrote:
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God forbid he should be allowed to contribute to society.
isn't the point of prison to remove someone from society as a punishment for his or her crimes?


It might also be rehabilitation and/or protecting the public from dangerous individuals.

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