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That's a gag site. I made it. :lol:

I supported our troops yesterday by sending a B&P of a Neil Young show to a fellow RMer in teh Military.

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Did you really make that?

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Orpheus wrote:
Did you really make that?

Does that site look real, or does that general on the top look like someone that would show up in GD under a thread entitled "Post pics of guys named Gomer"?

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How come I got a reply e-mail? You put way too much work into it. :lol:

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Did you really make that?

Does that site look real, or does that general on the top look like someone that would show up in GD under a thread entitled "Post pics of guys named Gomer"?


General Singlaub's bio....according to Wikipedia, anyway...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_K.Singlaub

Here's another page regarding his military career...

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKsinglaub.htm


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Send a "Dog Tag" in your name to a soldier in Iraq

I’m not ashamed of our troops -- are you?

The mainstream liberal media want you to believe that U.S. troops in Iraq are guilty of widespread torture ... oppressing civilians ... murdering U.S. journalists ... opposing the war effort ...

And losing the war.

Well, after a military career that stretched from World War II through Korea, Vietnam, and the fall of the Soviet empire, I can tell you this --

Our troops in Iraq are winning the war.

Number of personalized "Don’t Believe the Liberal Media" Dog Tags created for troops on the front lines so far: 75,869
Goal: 150,000

And they’re upholding the highest standards of decency and civilization in their selfless mission to liberate the Iraqi people from tyranny and confront the America-hating terrorist fanatics on their own ground.

These courageous men and women need to know that somebody back home is working to restore fairness and balance to the media’s coverage of the sacrifices they’re making for us.

That’s why I want you to add your name to a special “dog tag” that I’ll send to one of our heroic soldiers on the front lines.

The dog tag bears the message, “Don’t Believe the Liberal Media -- America Supports Our Troops!” -- in your name, personally.

And it promises your prayers until that soldier comes home safe and sound.

I’ll also send you a second “dog tag.”

I hope you’ll put your dog tag on your key chain as a daily reminder to pray for our troops and their safe return home.

Join me in demanding that the media tell the truth about our troops in Iraq and help me get a signed tag to every single one of the 150,000 men and women in uniform over there. Please add your name, a message, and an email address in the form on the right side of this page and we'll take it from there.

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Lenin, is there a reason your posts are taking on such a routinely mechanical quality at this point?

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i am really sick of meaningless token gestures when it comes to supporting the troops.

a picture of a yellow ribbon on your car does nothing for them.

a special little dog tag sent to them only gives them a name of a person who "supports" them and something else to carry/throw away.

"bombs are exploding all around me and i found a severed hand yesterday on the street, but YAY! Mr Punk David pointed and clicked, filled in his name on a web page, and ponied up some cash to send me this little dog tag shaped piece of plastic! is it bullet proof plastic by any chance?"

how about those who feel the troops need support put some real effort into it by organizing a letter writing campaign? or a phone card campaign?

instead, we have a typical lazy american slapdash non-effort that looks to me more insulting to the war effort than even the idiocy of putting a yellow ribbon on your toyota SUV and thinking that it helps somehow.

lastly: i have not heard anything from any news outlet that leads me to believe that the soldiers are "losing" or that I should be "ashamed" of the work they are doing.

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kiddo wrote:
i am really sick of meaningless token gestures when it comes to supporting the troops.

a picture of a yellow ribbon on your car does nothing for them.

a special little dog tag sent to them only gives them a name of a person who "supports" them and something else to carry/throw away.

"bombs are exploding all around me and i found a severed hand yesterday on the street, but YAY! Mr Punk David pointed and clicked, filled in his name on a web page, and ponied up some cash to send me this little dog tag shaped piece of plastic! is it bullet proof plastic by any chance?"

how about those who feel the troops need support put some real effort into it by organizing a letter writing campaign? or a phone card campaign?

instead, we have a typical lazy american slapdash non-effort that looks to me more insulting to the war effort than even the idiocy of putting a yellow ribbon on your toyota SUV and thinking that it helps somehow.

lastly: i have not heard anything from any news outlet that leads me to believe that the soldiers are "losing" or that I should be "ashamed" of the work they are doing.


No..the yellow ribbon doesn't directly help the soldiers...and I hate the yellow ribbons, but you clearly notice them which gets you thinking about the war...which gets you talking about the war...which gets you thinking about the troops. All the soldiers want is to be appreciated and if a yellow ribbon is the spark that leads some people to appreciate the soldier....then they are serving a purpose.


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shit like this pisses me off almost as much as those yellow bracelets.


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I'm not saying I agree with the yellow ribbons/bracelets etc.. I'm just giving the rational of the people that do.


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I think it serves more to prove conformity than support. A false sense of selflessness and superiority.

You don't have a ribbon? Well I am a real American.


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loralei wrote:
I think it serves more to prove conformity than support. A false sense of selflessness and superiority.

You don't have a ribbon? Well I am a real American.


I was in a convenience store looking at the yellow ribbons for sale right after 9/11. One thing caught my eye.

Made in China :lol:


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porchball wrote:
loralei wrote:
I think it serves more to prove conformity than support. A false sense of selflessness and superiority.

You don't have a ribbon? Well I am a real American.


I was in a convenience store looking at the yellow ribbons for sale right after 9/11. One thing caught my eye.

Made in China :lol:


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LeninFlux wrote:
General Singlaub's bio....according to Wikipedia, anyway...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_K.Singlaub


A distinguished career. :roll:

===========================

General John "Jack" Singlaub gained national attention when he testified before the joint Congressional committee investigating Iran-Contragate on his role in Contra fundraising. That Committee never pursued Singlaub's ties to the World Anti-Communist League, which networks not only anti-communists but racists, anti-Semites, fascists and even a handful of aging Nazi collaborators.

Singlaub has been a representative of, and works closely with, the American Security Council, the major pro-military lobbying group in the U.S. and one of the chief lobby groups for Contra aid. ASC started life as a blacklist-style agency retained by manufacturers to screen potential industrial employees for communist or subversive pasts-such as a preference for labor unions.

Singlaub is also on the Advisory Board of the Council for Inter- American Security, the group that brags about how it infiltrates meetings of "leftists" to spy on activists. Another CIS Board member is columnist Patrick J. Buchanan, who played the role of the pit bull terrier for the Reagan Administration. Other CIS Board members include Congressmen and Senators such as Sen. Jack Kemp, Rep. Bill Chappell, Sen. Malcolm Wallop, and Rep. Vin Weber.

Singlaub, who served on the board of the now-defunct Western Goals Foundation, is a classic example of how counter-subversion nativists with close government ties work to influence government policy with paranoid conspiracy theories and authoritarian solutions. That Singlaub is the quitessential counter-subversion nativist can be shown through his own words. For instance Singlaub signed one CIS fundraising letter where he warned:

=== "Ultraliberals want you to believe that Communist Russia wants peace. . . .Ultraliberals want you to believe that the big bosses of the Kremlin are people `just like you and me'. . . .ultraliberals support permanent nuclear superiority by Soviet Communists.

Those, like Singlaub, who filter their anti-communism through a paranoid world view firmly believe in the existence of the global red menace; an immense and secret international communist conspiracy the dimensions of which are so horrific that the United States of America is on the verge of collapse because its very foundations are riddled with the rot of communist subversion while the country itself is geographically surrounded by hordes of mindless commie zombies brainwashed through endless Leninist lectures to have no regard for human life. If you don't think anyone seriously believes this wolrdview, you didn't see the movie "Red Dawn".

That this paranoid anti-communist premise is actually believed by a small but significant segment of American society is illustrated by reviewing the invitational brochure for an ultra-conservative investment planning seminar scheduled for September 25-28, 1985 at the Los Angeles Airport Hyatt. The slick multi-color flyer announced: "Gary North Presents: Racing to the Year 2000-Planning for personal stability in the midst of change." Sounds normal enough until you scan the following lecture topics as printed in the brochure: · General John Singlaub, Chairman of the United States Council for World Freedom (the General Jimmy Carter axed): "How and Where World War III Will Be Fought." The ignored military reality that will shape America's future-information that will affect your future plans, profits, and personal safety. · Antony Sutton, Editor of The Phoenix Letter: "Soviet Technology: Made in the USA." How by reducing government expenditures, we can cripple the Soviet Union without firing a shot-and who is seeing to it that we don't do it. · Jack Wheeler, Foreign Policy Consultant: "The Soft Underbelly of the Soviet Empire and Who's Punching It." An insider's view of the eight anti-Soviet guerrilla wars going on right now and whether or not you can bet on the Soviet Union crumbling.

http://www.publiceye.org/huntred/Hunt_F ... ce-11.html

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porchball wrote:
kiddo wrote:
i am really sick of meaningless token gestures when it comes to supporting the troops.

a picture of a yellow ribbon on your car does nothing for them.

a special little dog tag sent to them only gives them a name of a person who "supports" them and something else to carry/throw away.

"bombs are exploding all around me and i found a severed hand yesterday on the street, but YAY! Mr Punk David pointed and clicked, filled in his name on a web page, and ponied up some cash to send me this little dog tag shaped piece of plastic! is it bullet proof plastic by any chance?"

how about those who feel the troops need support put some real effort into it by organizing a letter writing campaign? or a phone card campaign?

instead, we have a typical lazy american slapdash non-effort that looks to me more insulting to the war effort than even the idiocy of putting a yellow ribbon on your toyota SUV and thinking that it helps somehow.

lastly: i have not heard anything from any news outlet that leads me to believe that the soldiers are "losing" or that I should be "ashamed" of the work they are doing.


No..the yellow ribbon doesn't directly help the soldiers...and I hate the yellow ribbons, but you clearly notice them which gets you thinking about the war...which gets you talking about the war...which gets you thinking about the troops. All the soldiers want is to be appreciated and if a yellow ribbon is the spark that leads some people to appreciate the soldier....then they are serving a purpose.


i do not need a made in china picture of a yellow ribbon to remind me that we are at war and that the soldiers need our support. i am reminded every day on the news, and more poignantly, by the homemade welcome home sgt so and so signs that hang on highway overpasses.

i think a better way to remind yourself and others about the soldiers would be to go to a local craft store and buy a little bit of real yellow ribbon...then tie it to your finger. there's a conversation starter if i ever saw one.

those damn magnetic things, i see so many faded and peeling, and if i were a soldier and saw that upon coming home, i'd be bummed out. and since they are so prevelant, people are just not seeing them anymore.

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kiddo wrote:
i think a better way to remind yourself and others about the soldiers would be to go to a local craft store and buy a little bit of real yellow ribbon...then tie it to your finger. there's a conversation starter if i ever saw one.


:lol: just had the image in my head of everyone walking around with yellow ribbons tied around their fingers.

You're right about the faded ribbons on cars. There are so many now..that I don't even notice them anymore. They've become part of the ignored backround...like power lines and homeless people.


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LeninFlux wrote:
General Singlaub's bio....according to Wikipedia, anyway...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_K.Singlaub


A distinguished career. :roll:

===========================

General John "Jack" Singlaub gained national attention when he testified before the joint Congressional committee investigating Iran-Contragate on his role in Contra fundraising. That Committee never pursued Singlaub's ties to the World Anti-Communist League, which networks not only anti-communists but racists, anti-Semites, fascists and even a handful of aging Nazi collaborators.

Singlaub has been a representative of, and works closely with, the American Security Council, the major pro-military lobbying group in the U.S. and one of the chief lobby groups for Contra aid. ASC started life as a blacklist-style agency retained by manufacturers to screen potential industrial employees for communist or subversive pasts-such as a preference for labor unions.

Singlaub is also on the Advisory Board of the Council for Inter- American Security, the group that brags about how it infiltrates meetings of "leftists" to spy on activists. Another CIS Board member is columnist Patrick J. Buchanan, who played the role of the pit bull terrier for the Reagan Administration. Other CIS Board members include Congressmen and Senators such as Sen. Jack Kemp, Rep. Bill Chappell, Sen. Malcolm Wallop, and Rep. Vin Weber.

Singlaub, who served on the board of the now-defunct Western Goals Foundation, is a classic example of how counter-subversion nativists with close government ties work to influence government policy with paranoid conspiracy theories and authoritarian solutions. That Singlaub is the quitessential counter-subversion nativist can be shown through his own words. For instance Singlaub signed one CIS fundraising letter where he warned:

=== "Ultraliberals want you to believe that Communist Russia wants peace. . . .Ultraliberals want you to believe that the big bosses of the Kremlin are people `just like you and me'. . . .ultraliberals support permanent nuclear superiority by Soviet Communists.

Those, like Singlaub, who filter their anti-communism through a paranoid world view firmly believe in the existence of the global red menace; an immense and secret international communist conspiracy the dimensions of which are so horrific that the United States of America is on the verge of collapse because its very foundations are riddled with the rot of communist subversion while the country itself is geographically surrounded by hordes of mindless commie zombies brainwashed through endless Leninist lectures to have no regard for human life. If you don't think anyone seriously believes this wolrdview, you didn't see the movie "Red Dawn".

That this paranoid anti-communist premise is actually believed by a small but significant segment of American society is illustrated by reviewing the invitational brochure for an ultra-conservative investment planning seminar scheduled for September 25-28, 1985 at the Los Angeles Airport Hyatt. The slick multi-color flyer announced: "Gary North Presents: Racing to the Year 2000-Planning for personal stability in the midst of change." Sounds normal enough until you scan the following lecture topics as printed in the brochure: · General John Singlaub, Chairman of the United States Council for World Freedom (the General Jimmy Carter axed): "How and Where World War III Will Be Fought." The ignored military reality that will shape America's future-information that will affect your future plans, profits, and personal safety. · Antony Sutton, Editor of The Phoenix Letter: "Soviet Technology: Made in the USA." How by reducing government expenditures, we can cripple the Soviet Union without firing a shot-and who is seeing to it that we don't do it. · Jack Wheeler, Foreign Policy Consultant: "The Soft Underbelly of the Soviet Empire and Who's Punching It." An insider's view of the eight anti-Soviet guerrilla wars going on right now and whether or not you can bet on the Soviet Union crumbling.

http://www.publiceye.org/huntred/Hunt_F ... ce-11.html

HA! I didn't have to write that. What a dick. :lol:

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