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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:44 am 
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,207682,00.html

London Police Disrupt Terrorist Plot to Blow Up Aircraft in Mid-Flight

Thursday , August 10, 2006

LONDON — British authorities thwarted a terrorist plot to blow up an aircraft in mid-flight between the United States and the United Kingdom using explosives smuggled in hand luggage, police said Thursday.

Britain's Home Secretary John Reid said that the foiled terror plot aimed to "bring down a number of aircraft through mid-flight explosions, causing a considerable loss of life."

Police have arrested a number of people in London after a major covert counterterrorism operation lasting several months, police said in a statement.

Security at the country's airports increased and additional measures were put in place for all flights.

The current national threat level was raised to critical — a warning level that indicates the likelihood of an imminent terrorist attack. The threat rating — based on a U.S. Department of Homeland Security's model — was posted on the Web site of Britain's MI5 — the British domestic spy agency.

British Airways advised all passengers that they would not be permitted to carry any hand baggage on board any aircraft departing from any airport in the country.

Passengers will be allowed to take only travel documents, eyeglasses and a handful of other items through airport security. Handbags will not permitted, the company said in a statement.

Passengers were also advised that no electrical or battery powered items including laptops and mobile phones could be carried into the cabin.

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good job by them. they've been under lots of scrutiny lately.

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Thank goodness this was stopped before it happened.

It's at times like this when I think people wouldn't have such a great concern for programs such as the NSA.


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I have to wonder sitting here listening to the news as the day goes on if they have actually stopped the whole threat??

They are searching people in all airports, have stopped all incoming flights and all outgoing short haul flights. I have to ask if they would be that worried if they had arrested all the terrorists??? Or if its just a reflex after the mishaps on 7/7


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My girlfriend is on duty at Heathrow at the moment. She couldn't tell me much more than 21 people have been arrested in connection with the incident and that all UK to US flights have ben cancelled. She also mentioned that's it absolute fucking pandemonium there at the moment...

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London Police Disrupt Terrorist Plot to Blow Up Aircraft in Mid-Flight

Thursday , August 10, 2006

LONDON — Authorities in Britain disrupted a "serious" terrorist plan to blow up as many as six airplanes simultaneously in mid-flight on their way from Britain to the United States, FOX News learned Thursday.

The "loss of life to innocent civilians would have been on unprecedented scale” had the plan been carried out, Britain's Home Secretary John Reid said.

The plot would have seen terrorists smuggling liquid explosives — that could be missed by x-rays during screening — onto planes via carry-on luggage, security sources told Sky News.

Click here to read the Sky News story.

British officials quickly banned hand luggage on all trans-Atlantic flights and raised security to the country's highest level — suggesting a terrorist attack could be imminent.

But a top Scotland Yard official was confident the plot had been foiled, confirming 21 suspects were in custody.

"We think this was an extraordinarily serious plot and we are confident that we've prevented an attempt to commit mass murder on an unimaginable scale," said Scotland Yard Deputy Commissioner Paul Stephenson.

In response to the disrupted plot, U.S. security officials raised the terror threat level on incoming flights from the U.K. to severe, or red, the highest ever issued since alert system was developed after Sept. 11, 2001. Passengers were also banned from bringing liquids onto flights. (Full story)

Reid said the police were confident the "main players" were among the 21 arrested.

Officials on the condition of anonymity said there could be up to 50 people involved in the plot.

However, Stephenson, nor Reid, commented on that.

"We have been very successful in arresting those we were targeting but this is a lengthy operation, and no doubt there will be further developments," Stephenson said.

Those arrested were mainly young, British-born Asian men, Sky News reported.

The terrorists were targeting United, American, Continental airlines, two U.S. counterterrorism officials say. But anonymous sources later told FOX News that British airlines were also being targeted.

A U.S. intelligence official said the plotters had hoped to target flights to major airports in New York, Washington and California, all major summer tourist destinations.

One British police spokesman said the attacks were planned to happen at the same time.

"These were (to be) simultaneous attacks on multiple targets, targeting aircraft bound for the United States," the spokesman said on condition of anonymity in line with force policy.

The country's police anti-terrorist chief, Peter Clarke, said the investigation — which reportedly culminated over several months — reached a critical point Wednesday night, and forces realized urgent action needed to be taken.

“We have been looking at meetings, movements, travel, spending and the aspirations of a large group of people," Clarke said. He said the number, destination and timing of the flights that may have been targeted remained under investigation. "As is so often the case in these investigations, the alleged plot has global dimensions."

Prime Minister Tony Blair, vacationing in the Caribbean, briefed President Bush on the situation overnight, Blair's office said. There was no immediate public reaction from the White House. Bush is spending a few days at his ranch near Crawford, Texas.

It is the first time the red alert level in the Homeland Security warning system has been invoked, although there have been brief periods in the past when the orange level was applied. Homeland Security defines the red alert as designating a "severe risk of terrorist attacks."

"We believe that these arrests (in London) have significantly disrupted the threat, but we cannot be sure that the threat has been entirely eliminated or the plot completely thwarted," said U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff.

Chertoff added, however, there was no indication of current plots within the U.S. Numerous flights from U.S. cities to Britain were canceled Thursday morning.

A senior U.S. counterterrorism official said authorities believe dozens of people — possibly as many as 50 — were involved in the plot, which "had a footprint to Al Qaeda back to it." The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation.

Another U.S. source in Washington told FOX News that the plot had a "serious Al Qaeda connection."

The plan involved airline passengers hiding masked explosives in carry-on luggage, the official said. "They were not yet sitting on an airplane," but were very close to traveling, the official said, calling the plot "the real deal."

Passengers in Britain faced delays as tighter security was hastily enforced at the country's airports and additional measures were put in place for all flights. Laptop computers, mobile phones, iPods, and remote controls were among the items banned from being carried on board.

Liquids, such as hair care products, were also barred on flights in both Britain and the U.S., raising the possibility that authorities were searching for a liquid explosive.

Huge lines formed at ticket counters and behind security barriers at Heathrow and other airports in Britain. Ed Lappen, 55, a businessman from Boston, who was traveling with his wife and daughter to Russia, found himself unable to travel further.

"We're safe, we're OK," he said at Heathrow. "Now my daughter is going to get a shopping trip in London."

Hannah Pillinger, 24, seemed less concerned by the announcement. "Eight hours without an iPod, that's the most inconvenient thing," she said, waiting at the Manchester airport.

Most European carriers canceled flights to Heathrow because of the massive delays created after authorities enforced strict new regulations banning most hand baggage.

Heathrow's block on incoming traffic applied to flights of three hours or less, affecting most of the incoming traffic from Europe, an airport spokesman said on condition of anonymity in line with airport policy.

Officials at Frankfurt's airport, Europe's second-busiest, Schiphol in Amsterdam and Charles De Gaulle in Paris said Heathrow-bound planes could instead land at their airports if they needed to.

London's Heathrow airport was the departure point for a devastating terrorist attack on a Pan Am airplane on Dec. 21, 1988. The blast over Lockerbie, Scotland, killed all 259 people aboard Pan Am Flight 103 and 11 people on the ground.

The explosive was hidden in a portable radio which was hidden in checked baggage.

FOX News' Michael De Dora, Jr. and the Associated Press contributed to this report.

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airlines are not allowing liquids and gels in carry on luggage...with the exception of medicines and baby formula.

baby formula is easy to spot. it has a distinctive smell and feel. but i wonder how security is going to be able to determine if liquid medicines are actually medicines.

i am thinking specificially of:
insulin
migraine abortives (DHE, imitrex etc)
asthma inhalers


most injectable migraine abortives are preloaded. some insulin syringes are preloaded...they cannot be taken apart to be inspected, and even if they were easily taken apart, how many security guards know what insulin, imitrex, flovent etc smells and looks like? having the medicine in its original container with a Rx label is helpful, but those things are easy to fake.

then there is the lesser probelm of not being able to bring water on the flight. will the airlines be serving water and food again to prevent their passengers from dehydration?

this is going to be a nightmare for people who need these liquid medications on the plane with them.

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well, i feel much more comfortable flying to califorinia in two weeks on continental....................

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Arg. How early am I going to have to get to the airport next week for my flight?

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Arg. How early am I going to have to get to the airport next week for my flight?


exactly, i was planning on working atleast a half day on the 25th, but now i may have to take that day off too. my flight is at 630, so i figure 300pm should be early enough considering i am 15 minutes from the airport

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Arg. How early am I going to have to get to the airport next week for my flight?


exactly, i was planning on working atleast a half day on the 25th, but now i may have to take that day off too. my flight is at 630, so i figure 300pm should be early enough considering i am 15 minutes from the airport


I have an interview at 12:30 and a flight at 7:40. But I have to take a 1hr10min train ride to the airport.

Glayvin.

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Liquids, such as hair care products, were also barred on flights in both Britain and the U.S., raising the possibility that authorities were searching for a liquid explosive.


did they find Borat?


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Waitng for the usual suspects to say: It's all Israel's fault. :arrow:

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Waitng for the usual suspects to say: It's all bush's fault. :arrow:


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Arg. How early am I going to have to get to the airport next week for my flight?


leave now.

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broken iris wrote:
Waitng for the usual suspects to say: It's all Israel's fault. :arrow:


come on. that was cheap.


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and no IPOD on a 14 hr flight?

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and no IPOD on a 14 hr flight?

mannnnn


Hold on. I didn't see where they said I couldn't take an ipod. I may not go if I can't take my ipod.

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and no IPOD on a 14 hr flight?

mannnnn


Hold on. I didn't see where they said I couldn't take an ipod. I may not go if I can't take my ipod.


no ipods or laptops.

bring a book.

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Waitng for the usual suspects to say: It's all Israel's fault. :arrow:


come on. that was cheap.


I wasn't refering to you, as I find your postings far more reasonable and respectable than most on this forum. You have a unique life experince compared to a majority of us and that gives your perspective added value.

And of course it was a preemptive cheap shot. :wink:

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