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 Post subject: The FBI's on the case, folks
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:13 am 
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http://www.sltrib.com/justice/ci_6146981

Pair charged with porno sales
Ohio brothers are accused of shipping hard-core films to Utah
By Pamela Manson
The Salt Lake Tribune
Article Last Updated: 06/15/2007 07:15:27 AM MDT


The U.S. Attorney's Office in Salt Lake City has accused two brothers of selling obscene materials through their Internet business, claiming the Ohio enterprise shipped hard-core pornographic movies to Utah.
The films were violent and extreme and had no artistic value, said U.S. Attorney Brett Tolman,
"This is not the material you can order from your hotel room," Tolman said Thursday after unsealing a criminal complaint filed June 8.
The complaint charges 42-year-old Sami Harb and 33-year-old Michael Harb, who operate the Cleveland-based Movies by Mail, with one count each of selling obscene material. The defendants have been ordered to appear in federal court in Utah on June 29.
If convicted, the brothers face a maximum sentence of five years in prison.
The investigation began last year when the FBI's Adult Obscenity Task Force in Washington, D.C., got a tip about Movies by Mail, and agents say they were able to buy obscene DVDs on the company's Web site. In March, a Salt Lake City agent placed an online order and three of the movies - "Max Hardcore: Pure Max 18," "Max Hardcore: Extreme 12" and Extreme Associates: Cocktails 5" - were deemed to be obscene.
"None of the three films has a plot line," an FBI investigator wrote in a statement detailing the charge. "The films consist entirely of scenes of hard-core sexual acts being performed
by multiple men and women."
Postal records show that Movies by Mail sent 683 packages in 2006 to Utah, 149 of them to Salt Lake City and the rest around the state, according to the complaint.
Assisting the FBI in the investigation were the Department of Justice, the U.S. Attorney's Offices in Salt Lake City and Cleveland and the U.S. Postal Inspection Service.

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they should be arrested and those who bought them should be arrested, i mean who in the fuck just doesnt download clips from the net?

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what peeps said

and I've seen that place in Downtown Cleveland before, it's a really shady looking porn shop :lol:

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I don't get what the problem is.

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Orpheus wrote:
I don't get what the problem is.


the fbi wants kickback money

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Orpheus wrote:
I don't get what the problem is.



It's Utah. They and a handful of other states have much stricter blue laws than most other states and one of those laws outlaws interstate transactions involving pornographic materials. Pretty sure that's it.


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Ampson11 wrote:
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I don't get what the problem is.



It's Utah. They and a handful of other states have much stricter blue laws than most other states and one of those laws outlaws interstate transactions involving pornographic materials. Pretty sure that's it.


pornography is wrong but polygamy is alright :roll:

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PeopleMyAge wrote:
Ampson11 wrote:
Orpheus wrote:
I don't get what the problem is.



It's Utah. They and a handful of other states have much stricter blue laws than most other states and one of those laws outlaws interstate transactions involving pornographic materials. Pretty sure that's it.


pornography is wrong but polygamy is alright :roll:


I'm not making any moral judgements, just stating the facts. And what's your knock on polygamy? I'm hoping to hook up a situation like that for myself someday, minus the whole Mormanism thing. :D


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fkin Feds wrote:
The films were violent and extreme and had no artistic value,


That sounds like every Tarantino Film I've had to sit through, hes not going to jial.

Your tax dollars well spent...BLAH! :arrow:

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Ampson11 wrote:
Orpheus wrote:
I don't get what the problem is.



It's Utah. They and a handful of other states have much stricter blue laws than most other states and one of those laws outlaws interstate transactions involving pornographic materials. Pretty sure that's it.


That's pretty stupid.

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How is something deemed "obscene"?


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Mind of Meddle wrote:
How is something deemed "obscene"?


community standards, it varies from, community to community. some porn sites have disclaimers stating if youre viewing from (state) then it is illegal. i have even seen some name the counties

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Orpheus wrote:
I don't get what the problem is.


THE CHILDREN! SAVE THE CHILDREN!


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Peeps wrote:
Mind of Meddle wrote:
How is something deemed "obscene"?


community standards, it varies from, community to community. some porn sites have disclaimers stating if youre viewing from (state) then it is illegal. i have even seen some name the counties

It's actually a combination of local community standards and national community standards depending on the medium. For example, TV broadcasts are (supposed to be) judged on a national standard, while more tangible items like magazines and sex toys would be on a more local standard.

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 Post subject: Re: The FBI's on the case, folks
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Man in Black wrote:
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"None of the three films has a plot line," an FBI investigator wrote in a statement detailing the charge.


What does this have to do with anything? Does this guy moonlight as a movie critic?


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Athletic Supporter wrote:
Orpheus wrote:
I don't get what the problem is.


THE CHILDREN! SAVE THE CHILDREN!


mrs. lovejoy: please! don't talk about s-e-x in front of the c-h-i-l-d-r-e-n!

krusty: sex cauldren? i thought they shut that place down

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"None of the three films has a plot line," an FBI investigator wrote in a statement detailing the charge.


Bound to Fuck's plotline may not be very deep, but it's there.

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:shock: If I haven't been arrested yet, I'm in the clear ... right?

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Orpheus wrote:
Ampson11 wrote:
Orpheus wrote:
I don't get what the problem is.



It's Utah. They and a handful of other states have much stricter blue laws than most other states and one of those laws outlaws interstate transactions involving pornographic materials. Pretty sure that's it.


That's pretty stupid.


Insightful commentary there sparky.


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Well, it is, as are obscenity laws in general.

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