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Cheney, he shoulda got it. Let's cut through the bullshit, Cheney's second in name only.
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The magazine's editors tapped Bush "for sharpening the debate until the choices bled, for reframing reality to match his design, for gambling his fortunes — and ours — on his faith in the power of leadership."
Reframing reality to match his design. That's a big fuck you, Mr. Bush!
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I could care less who Time Mag thinks is man of the year. But I have a question for people.. Does anyone think Bush won the election because he did such a great job, or did he win for countless other reasons (fear of national security, his democratic competitor, conservatives support of things like gay marriage, etc)?
I personally believe that the reasons I listed, coupled with a few others, were actually the cause for the victory that Bush eeked out. I just have a hard time seeing anything Bush did to really deserve the presidency and win over voters; he seemed pretty weak, much like Kerry, to me. Would others disagree? Should he be complimented for running a strong campaign?
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I would say he's the most influential man of 2004, no doubt about it. Before W, most people thought war was a bad thing. People didn't used to feel they needed to sue because they heard the F-word. Before W, nobody believed that Federal laws should be dictated by the Christian bible. The idea of a large national deficit used to be scary as hell. Conservatives used to believe in a smaller Federal government. Before W, Republican wasn't a dirty word. Yes, I think he deserves special recognition for all he has accomplished.
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jackironsversion wrote:
I would say he's the most influential man of 2004, no doubt about it. Before W, most people thought war was a bad thing.
I am sorry, but I was under the impression that most people still believe war to be a "bad thing", I certainly do. Even in its noblest form warfare is far from a benign endeavor, and to label it such is to reduce the sacrifices of those who have suffered.
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I would say he's the most influential man of 2004, no doubt about it. Before W, most people thought war was a bad thing.
I am sorry, but I was under the impression that most people still believe war to be a "bad thing", I certainly do. Even in its most noblest form warfare is far from a benign endeavor and to label it such is to reduce the sacrifices of those who have suffered.
I think he forgot to add the
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:21 pm Posts: 362 Location: Red Sox Nation via AZ
MitchCumstein wrote:
deathbyflannel wrote:
jackironsversion wrote:
I would say he's the most influential man of 2004, no doubt about it. Before W, most people thought war was a bad thing.
I am sorry, but I was under the impression that most people still believe war to be a "bad thing", I certainly do. Even in its most noblest form warfare is far from a benign endeavor and to label it such is to reduce the sacrifices of those who have suffered.
I think he forgot to add the
Yeah, I was being overly bitter and sarcastic. Don't take offense, it's just some drunken ramblings.
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