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As if in answer to punkdavid, the Nation publishes and article ...

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The Many Faces of Dr. Coburn
Max Blumenthal

On the first day of hearings on Judge John G. Roberts Jr.'s nomination to Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court, before a Russell Senate Office Building Caucus Room overflowing with members of the media and Congressional staffers, with klieg lights shining and flashbulbs popping all around, and with seventeen other members of the Senate Judiciary Committee arrayed beside him, Oklahoma Republican Senator Tom Coburn busied himself with a crossword puzzle.

On April 7, five months prior to this hearing, Michael Schwartz, Coburn's chief of staff, told me, "Tom doesn't know anything about this judiciary stuff, so I'm feeding him piles and piles of memos every day." Though Schwartz didn't specify the nature of his memos to Coburn, I assumed they were made up of primers on legal jargon and history, not word games, puzzles or other such brainteasers.

I met Schwartz outside a downtown Washington hotel, where a gathering of Christian-right activists called "Confronting the Judicial War on Faith" was taking place. In a speech earlier that day, Schwartz told conference attendees he favored "the mass impeachment of judges" and denounced the Supreme Court for giving Americans "the right to commit buggery." Later, while a think tank researcher and I accompanied him to the Dupont Circle subway station, coincidentally located in the heart of one of America's most vibrant gay neighborhoods, Schwartz held forth with his vision for the judiciary.

At the very beginning of our conversation, before I could even introduce myself, Schwartz exclaimed, "I'm a radical! I'm a real extremist. I don't want to impeach judges. I want to impale them!"

Schwartz struck a slightly more even-tempered tone when discussing Senator Arlen Specter, a socially moderate Republican who had become the bete noire of the Christian right since assuming the chairmanship of the Judiciary Committee. "Specter is the Great Satan, of course," Schwartz remarked. "But still, I'd rather have him as committee chair than [Utah Republican Senator] Orrin Hatch, because Specter knows how to terrorize the opposition."

Schwartz expressed dismay over a former colleague, Tom Jipping, who has become one of the Christian right's point men in the judicial nomination battles. "Tom's great," he said, recalling their days together at right-wing think tanks the Free Congress Foundation and Concerned Women for America. "But he's wrong about judges. He just wants better judges," Schwartz said mockingly.

So what kind of judges did Schwartz want? Borrowing a common right-wing analogy Roberts would later use in his opening remarks before the Judiciary Committee, I asked him if he wanted judges to behave like umpires, ruling on cases like balls and strikes. "I don't want umpires," he declared with a dismissive wave of his hand. "I want to get them out of the way."

Schwartz's positions may seem extreme, but they are by no means unique in his political milieu. Schwartz earned high praise at the "Confronting the Judicial War on Faith" conference from Catholic-right activist Austin Ruse for being one of the first organizers for Operation Rescue, the antiabortion group that often employed violent tactics in its vain attempt during the 1980s and '90s to end the practice of abortion. In 1987, while working at the Free Congress Foundation for right-wing master strategist Paul Weyrich, Schwartz co-wrote Gays, AIDS, and You, a book alleging that homosexuals were "using the AIDS crisis to pursue [their] political agenda." With his reputation established, Schwartz was tapped as chief of staff by Coburn, a family practitioner/obstetrician and political neophyte elected to the House in 1994.

Immediately after seizing a majority in the House, the GOP leadership found itself under sustained pressure from Christian-right leader James Dobson to tack harder against abortion and gay rights. In response, Schwartz helped organize the creation of the Values Action Team, an off-the-record caucus bringing together Washington-based Christian-right lobbyists and conservative members of Congress to coordinate legislative strategy. In 2002 Schwartz walked through the revolving door he helped build, becoming Concerned Women for America's vice president of governmental affairs. Two years later, while managing Coburn's erratic Senate campaign, rumors swirled that Schwartz was fired for failing to deflect a steady stream of bad press, including revelations that the stridently antiabortion Coburn had forcibly sterilized a female patient. Despite a brief, unexplained break from the campaign, Schwartz moved up to the Senate after Coburn defeated his Democratic opponent, Brad Carson, with the help of Christian-right grassroots muscle and a last-minute, race-baiting ad blitz.

Schwartz may have salvaged his job, but he hasn't kept in Coburn's good graces. His comments about "impaling" judges, which I reported for this magazine, and which were subsequently carried by Newsweek and on Oklahoma Public Television, landed him back in the doghouse. According to filmmaker John Buchanan, who told me he interviewed Schwartz in May for a documentary, Schwartz said he was nearly fired by Coburn for his impolitic statements at the "Judicial War on Faith" conference, which he attended without his boss's permission. "I hurt Senator Coburn by what I did," Schwartz told Buchanan.

Yet with the sudden arrival of the first confirmation hearings in nineteen years for a new Supreme Court Chief Justice, it appears Schwartz has become indispensable to a Senator known mainly for his lack of political accomplishments and his personal eccentricity. Indeed, during nearly a decade of public life, Coburn has distinguished himself with posturing ranging from the weird (in 1997 he denounced NBC's showing of Schindler's List as "an all-time low, with full-frontal nudity"; seven years later, he invoked the specter of "rampant" lesbianism in Oklahoma public high school bathrooms) to the seemingly pointless (at the risk of censure, he has rebuked a Senate Ethics Committee demand to quit practicing medicine). Most recently, Coburn hosted a "Revenge of the STDs" slideshow in the Capitol basement this May depicting "the ravaging effects" of sexually transmitted diseases.

"A free pizza lunch will be served but attendees should be advised that some slides contain graphic images," Coburn's press release warned.

Usually, when a senator's chief of staff speaks in public, he or she does so on behalf of that senator. With Schwartz, however, it's hard to know what his dissonant dynamic with his boss will produce. Which Tom Coburn will show up at John Roberts's confirmation hearing and those to follow for the next nominee? Will it be the freshman senator weaned on a steady diet of memos by a veteran right-wing operative who wants to "impale" judges? Or the clueless physician-cum-political hobbyist described by his underling as someone who "doesn't know anything"?

In his opening statement, Coburn struggled to hold back tears as he exclaimed in a trembling voice, "My heart aches for less divisiveness, less polarization, less finger-pointing, less bitterness, less partisanship." On this day, at least, the kindly Dr. Coburn was in. But his other self may turn up at any moment.


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I have a feeling davo will have something to contribute in this thread.


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Yes, he is truly, truly awful.

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Just as long as you're not referring to me as "Davo" (we've got another Davo on board here)...

On the Daily Show the other night after showing Coburn holding back tears at the hearings on Monday (last paragraph of B's article), they gave two Coburn quotes. One said something about how the gay community was the greatest threat to liberty in America today, and the other said that abortion doctors should be given the death penalty.

You see folks, one party rules Oklahoma top to bottom, and when you have one party rule, someone like Tom Coburn can be elected to a statewide office.

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I remember him being elected. The democrat running against him seemed republican, and Coburn seemed nazi. It says alot about Oklahoma that he was elected. :shock:

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punkdavid wrote:

On the Daily Show the other night after showing Coburn holding back tears at the hearings on Monday (last paragraph of B's article), they gave two Coburn quotes. One said something about how the gay community was the greatest threat to liberty in America today, and the other said that abortion doctors should be given the death penalty.



It also showed him doing a crossword puzzle when it wasn't his turn to speak. It's amazing how he can get that worked up after a riveting crossword game.

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punkdavid wrote:
Just as long as you're not referring to me as "Davo" (we've got another Davo on board here)...


davo499?

Naw, I'm referring to the traditional davo, now PVW ;)


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Can someone really defend this evil scum-fuck?

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punkdavid wrote:

You see folks, one party rules Oklahoma top to bottom, and when you have one party rule, someone like Tom Coburn can be elected to a statewide office.

this might be the first time you've said something you have no idea about, but i doubt it's the last.

seriously, what?

anyway, coburn is a true jackass. any time i see his face i change the channel. i'm willing to go out on a limb and say my state has the two worst senators in the entire country in coburn and jim inhofe.

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Peter Van Wieren wrote:
punkdavid wrote:

You see folks, one party rules Oklahoma top to bottom, and when you have one party rule, someone like Tom Coburn can be elected to a statewide office.

this might be the first time you've said something you have no idea about, but i doubt it's the last.

seriously, what?

anyway, coburn is a true jackass. any time i see his face i change the channel. i'm willing to go out on a limb and say my state has the two worst senators in the entire country in coburn and jim inhofe.

You're right, it's not top to bottom rule. But the state is so dominated by Republican voters that the party can throw the most far-right-wing lunatic on the ticket, and still no Democrat will stand a chance to beat him for a statewide office. Is that not how sphincters like Inhofe and Coburn get elected?

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punkdavid wrote:
Peter Van Wieren wrote:
punkdavid wrote:

You see folks, one party rules Oklahoma top to bottom, and when you have one party rule, someone like Tom Coburn can be elected to a statewide office.

this might be the first time you've said something you have no idea about, but i doubt it's the last.

seriously, what?

anyway, coburn is a true jackass. any time i see his face i change the channel. i'm willing to go out on a limb and say my state has the two worst senators in the entire country in coburn and jim inhofe.

You're right, it's not top to bottom rule. But the state is so dominated by Republican voters that the party can throw the most far-right-wing lunatic on the ticket, and still no Democrat will stand a chance to beat him for a statewide office. Is that not how sphincters like Inhofe and Coburn get elected?

well, we do have a democratic governor and a democratic attorney general. and a democratic legislature..

inhofe could have been had last time out, but the dems nominated former governor david walters, who's a slimy, slimy guy.

coburn probably wouldn't have won if he ran against carson in a non presidential election year.

if barry switzer had run against him he would have lost by 25 points.

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Peter Van Wieren wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
Peter Van Wieren wrote:
punkdavid wrote:

You see folks, one party rules Oklahoma top to bottom, and when you have one party rule, someone like Tom Coburn can be elected to a statewide office.

this might be the first time you've said something you have no idea about, but i doubt it's the last.

seriously, what?

anyway, coburn is a true jackass. any time i see his face i change the channel. i'm willing to go out on a limb and say my state has the two worst senators in the entire country in coburn and jim inhofe.

You're right, it's not top to bottom rule. But the state is so dominated by Republican voters that the party can throw the most far-right-wing lunatic on the ticket, and still no Democrat will stand a chance to beat him for a statewide office. Is that not how sphincters like Inhofe and Coburn get elected?

well, we do have a democratic governor and a democratic attorney general. and a democratic legislature..

inhofe could have been had last time out, but the dems nominated former governor david walters, who's a slimy, slimy guy.

coburn probably wouldn't have won if he ran against carson in a non presidential election year.

if barry switzer had run against him he would have lost by 25 points.

Let me ask you, is OK politics like Big Pink described above. Where the Dem is like a Rep, and the Rep is like a Nazi?

Sounds like OK having a Democratic governor is like Maine having two Republican Senators.

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punkdavid wrote:
Let me ask you, is OK politics like Big Pink described above. Where the Dem is like a Rep, and the Rep is like a Nazi?

Sounds like OK having a Democratic governor is like Maine having two Republican Senators.

not really. brad carson is a clintonite, really. he worked for him in some capacity but i can't remember what he did. the most glaring thing they have in common is they'd say anything to get elected. carson did move to the right on a lot of issues, but they were issues a lot of democrats moved to the right on, the war on terror, things like that.

governor henry is a moderate who won the election mostly because of his plan for a lottery to fund education. he was the leader of the senate before, and seems like a real management guy. oh, and i mention barry switzer because a full 19% of the people who voted for henry in 2002 said they did so because switzer campaigned for him.

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Peter Van Wieren wrote:
governor henry is a moderate who won the election mostly because of his plan for a lottery to fund education. he was the leader of the senate before, and seems like a real management guy. oh, and i mention barry switzer because a full 19% of the people who voted for henry in 2002 said they did so because switzer campaigned for him.

Wow, imagine what a good coach could do in OK politics. :wink:

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A GOOD coach? I think you have him confused with someone else. :P

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I support the imprisonment and government administered execution of Tom Coburn.

And I rarely do this sort of thing.

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Apparently, Senator Coburn no likey ethics reforms...

http://www.tulsaworld.com/NewsStory.asp ... Cobur51640

Coburn might spurn re-election
By JIM MYERS World Washington Bureau
2/6/2007

The Oklahoma senator says an ethics bill is so onerous that he won't seek another term if it becomes law.

WASHINGTON -- An ethics bill that recently passed the U.S. Senate is so burdensome that Sen. Tom Coburn says he won't run for re-election if it becomes law.

Coburn, one of just two senators who voted against the bill, which was touted as cracking down on free gifts and travel for members of Congress, said he is troubled by the legal and political consequences that lawmakers face if the measure succeeds.

"If this becomes law, I will guarantee you I won't run again," he said in a Sunday interview on C-SPAN television. "I'm not about to put what I've work for for 35 years as a physician and a businessman at risk so I can represent the people. I will say 'I'm cashing it in. We've just imploded ourselves.' "

Coburn, whose seat won't be on the ballot until 2010, said a lawmaker could make an "innocent mistake" but still be forced to spend as much as $500,000 on a legal defense for an accusation that would be taken to a grand jury, only to be leaked.

"I will promise you, very few people in the future will run for Senate or Congress because every campaign will be about somebody making a complaint," he said.

Instead of the prohibitions included in the Senate bill, Coburn suggested more reporting by members of Congress on their activities to the public.

"The answer is full and complete disclosure," he said.

Before it could become law, the Senate bill would have to be approved by the House, which adopted new ethics rules instead of legislation.

Coburn said being a senator is difficult.

"This isn't a fun job," he said. "I mean I don't know anybody who really thinks this is that great of a job.

"It's not a fun job. It is a tremendously burdensome job, knowing that you can't change things to fix the future and you have to work every day to try to do that," he said.

Coburn also explained again his decision to continue to practice medicine even though, under Senate ethics rules, he can't take money from his patients.

"I can't do anything other than totally practice for free, absorbing all the costs myself, my malpractice (insurance), my nurses costs, my rent," he said. "I've done that, and I've done that happily to continue to keep my skills because when I leave here, I plan on continuing to practice medicine."

Last year, Coburn said, his costs for working about 200 hours and delivering 27 babies came to $49,000.

When asked why he doesn't just be a doctor if being in Congress is such a bad job and he likes medicine, the senator replied that he would have abandoned "what I thought I was supposed to do."

He appeared to dismiss a question about whether he had considered running for president.

"No, sir," Coburn said. "I don't have the capability to do that job, one. No. 2, it's not something that I'm called to do."


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woohoo.

I'd also like to point out Governor Henry won re-election with like 70% of the vote. Democrats can win here. I wouldn't be shocked to see Carson take over for Coburn when the time comes.

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Good ridance, now fuck off and die. And I mean that 200%.

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The guy is way out there for sure...but he does bring up a good point about transparency. Nothing to get so bent out of shape over though...

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