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So, Aaron McLeod tried to rob Stanton Moretti and his wife with a knife. Stanton managed to scare Aaron, so he took off running. Stanton proceeded to jump into his SUV, chase down Aaron, and run him over 3 times.
Despite this incident and an arrest for assaulting a female and abusing a child, Stanton's attourney says that he doesn't have a vicious bone in his body.
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Run-Down Suspect Surrenders on Murder Charge
Posted: Today at 7:14 a.m. Updated: Today at 1:34 p.m.
Fayetteville, N.C. — A Raeford man surrendered to police Wednesday morning after being charged with murder in the death of a man who had tried to rob his wife.
Stanton Moretti Jr., 41, of 119 Raymond St., was charged with first-degree murder and was being held without bond at the Cumberland County Detention Center.
He was charged Monday with assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill and had been free on a $25,000 bond.
Moretti's wife, Anna Moretti, was outside Primo Pizza on Yadkin Road Friday night when Aaron McLeod approached her and tried to rob and stab her, police said. Anna Moretti called out to her husband, who came outside and fired two warning shots from a handgun he carried, police said.
McLeod fled on foot down Horseshoe Road, and Stanton Moretti got into his GMC Yukon, caught up to McLeod and struck him three times with his vehicle, police said.
Investigators declined to say whether a knife was found, but Stanton Moretti's attorney, Michael Boose, said a knife was found at the scene.
McLeod, 28, of 412 Horseshoe Road, died Monday at UNC Hospitals.
Stanton Moretti chased McLeod in order to subdue him, Boose said. Moretti had been assaulted in the past and the suspects got away, Boose said, and he didn't want that to happen again.
"He was chasing him. The guy wasn't stopping and either cut in front of the vehicle or was running off the road because he was able to be pursued on the road, and that's when Stan ran over him in the ditch," Boose said.
Anna Moretti suffered defensive wounds on her hands in the incident, Boose said.
Stanton Moretti has been "torn up" about the incident, Boose said, adding that people that know Moretti say he "doesn't have a vicious bone in his body."
Moretti was arrested in September on charges of assaulting a female and misdemeanor child abuse. Several misdemeanor charges against McLeod, including larceny and shoplifting, had been dismissed, according to a criminal records check.
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he has the right to kick the shit out of him but not run him over with his car. though a few thousand years ago this would be fine. did the guy get away with any of his wife's stuff or was this just revenge?
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No. The guy ran away w/o having stolen anything.
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Just think, if he would have a hand gun, he wouldn't be in this position right now.
What's scary is its actually true.
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pjam81373 wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
Just think, if he would have a hand gun, he wouldn't be in this position right now.
Wait I thought the article said he did have a hand gun and even fired a couple of warning shots.
Yeah, I'm not following that either.
In my opinion, the guy should be charged with murder but should get a greatly reduced sentence. What he did was wrong, he should not have ran over and killed the guy, and it may not have even truly been in self defense, but it certainly is not the same thing as going out and randomly murdering someone. When you threaten someone's wife with a knife, you have opened up new levels of appropriate action from that individual, and they are justified in using those actions.
He threatened her with a knife. If he would have killed him at that point with a handgun, or any gun for that matter, he'd be completely in the clear. I doubt there is a single state where he would be charged for anything. Except DC, ya know, because you can't have guns there unless you're a criminal.
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Self-defense refers to actions taken by a person to prevent another person from causing harm to one's self, one's property or one's home.
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LittleWing wrote:
He threatened her with a knife. If he would have killed him at that point with a handgun, or any gun for that matter, he'd be completely in the clear. I doubt there is a single state where he would be charged for anything. Except DC, ya know, because you can't have guns there unless you're a criminal.
He did have a handgun dude, did you read the article? But anyway, I know what you are saying, and I think you're right. What you meant to say is "if he had just shot him this wouldn't have happened". Which is probably true. I don't think that's what I would have done, but I guess it depends on how close the guy was or how much he looked like he was about to use the knife. I certainly wouldn't hesitate.
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punkdavid wrote:
given2trade wrote:
no jury will find him guilty of 1st degree murder...but i bet he serves jail time under a plea deal.
I don't think a prosecutor could make a prima facie case for 1st degree murder. It's 2nd degree at worst.
But seriously, folks, once the guy is running away from you, it's no longer self-defense.
The idea that either of these would happen make me feel better. The guy may be a hotheaded fuckwad, but he doesn't deserve life in jail either. I think 5 years might be fair, or something like that.
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Buffalohed wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
given2trade wrote:
no jury will find him guilty of 1st degree murder...but i bet he serves jail time under a plea deal.
I don't think a prosecutor could make a prima facie case for 1st degree murder. It's 2nd degree at worst.
But seriously, folks, once the guy is running away from you, it's no longer self-defense.
The idea that either of these would happen make me feel better. The guy may be a hotheaded fuckwad, but he doesn't deserve life in jail either. I think 5 years might be fair, or something like that.
Oh, he could very well get life in prison for this. Not likely, but distinctly possible.
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i'm not sure i would have a problem with that.
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I doubt the world is any less off without this pos on the planet. The way I see it, if he had let the guy get away, he just would have moved on to the next innocent person, who may not have been able to defend themself in any way - or who would have fought back without a gun and ended up stabbed to death.
I don't see how convicting this poor guy and sending him to jail solves anything, either. He's not a criminal. He's a guy who snapped, defending someone he loved FROM a criminal.
Yeah, it was excessive, maybe he should have only hit him once. But oh the fuck well. It's not like the other guy had good intentions coming up to them with a knife. If you skydive for a living, there's a chance your chute might not open. If you rob people at knifepoint, there's a chance some guy will defend the person he loves most by running you over 3 times with his car. Such is life. Suck it up, pussy.
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we cannot allow citizens to take the law into their own hands.
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