it seems to me there are more than a few people on the board who totally distrust the government, or at the very least bush and republicans. most seem to think that the government is hiding many secrets from its people (i for one believe they do, but ill get to that in a little bit).

So what all should the government release as far as details about various operations.

for instance, probably the grand daddy of them all, Area 51. for those who dont know a brief history of it.

supposedly there was an alien craft and aliens captured, and sent directly to a place in the nevada desert called area 51. it is mostly off limits to civilians and even the military personel who venture in must have security clearence.

How would the country react to knowing with absolute proof that we are not alone in this galaxy/universe/multi-verse? i personally do believe there is intelligent life outside of the planet earth. i think its very egotistical to believe we are the only living things out there. now do i personally want to be shown an alien? fuck no. it would only add to peoples fears (not mine, but people in general) that the world is going to be invaded etc...

the next one, the government is lying about 9-11. Im sure there is information they do not want people to see or have it leaked out. I do not believe for even one iota of a micro second that our government had anything directly to do with the WTC and all those people being murdered (indirectly you could say, we funded usama years ago against the red menace etc... and now we reap what we have sowed, and while this is true, noone deserves to have that happen)

Generally i believe our government has its fingers in alot of pies out there, but for security reasons, its much much safer not to have those details out there in the daily news papers.


so my question to you folks who think this way, what information would you like for the Government to disclose, where do you draw the line at what the public needs to know as opposed to it being a matter of national security, or do you believe everything should be made public?

I do not think everything needs to be made public, and that is where the major problem arises which is: What should they make public and what should they withhold? The main thing that comes to mind is 9/11. Something is strange about the situation, to what Rumsfeld said yesterday, to the Pentagon "airplane." I'm sure most of you have saw the flash video on the internet about a plane really not crashing into the Pentagon, and it has evidence to back it up, and it made sense to me. Another interesting thing I read the other day was an article about a man named Jim Walter, he said that the two planes crashing into the world trade center shouldn't have made both buildings collapse, it was structurally impossible. He mentioned the buildings were rigged with explosives, which I find far-fetched. He was also offering one-hundred thousand dollars to any structural engineer that could prove him wrong. I'm not an engineer so I do not know how easy or hard this would be. These are the types of things that need to be cleared up by our government, bullshit free. Also, Area 51 was mentioned, something is going on at that place, whether it has to do with aliens or us testing new aircrafts, if it has to do with aliens disclose it, military matters keep it sealed up so no one from other countries will know what we are doing. I'm finding myself rambling here, but there is a fine line between what to disclose and what no to disclose, and I guess that is all I was trying to say.

I think I should be privy to all secrets.

But not anyone else.

I'd like to hear the full details behind 9/11, oil connections, etc, CIA operations (that won't be for a while), everything going on at Guantanamo Bay, Abu Graib.

And then other little things, from every President from the last 50 years, about connections to corporations, payments, support, etc.... Some may have been released from Truman through Carter, or at least through Ford, I dunno, hard to say

i believe that it is a very very tough line to walk on. but because of 9/11 and what seems to be significant evidence that what they told us is not the truth (even proven with statements by bush about the air in ground zero - oh its totally safe. riiiight.) how do you trust them?

the government has kind of left area 51 alone. they just don't talk about it. i think this is possibly a step above blatant lies, but not too far.

the american people need to grow up, open their eyes and stop being so damn ignorant so their leaders will stop treating them like children and withholding information. i don't think it benefits any american to have their president and their government lie to them. i'm not talking about the government revealing like classified shit that would endanger the safety of the nation... but ignorance is not bliss regarding things like whether or not a plane was shot down or whether a missle hit the pentagon. its bullshit.

I think we need to see:

The real connections between the Bush family and the Saudis: my suspicion is that the Bush family inadvertently funded 9/11, i.e. the Bush family was driven by greed and were fooled by the Saudi-wolves-in-sheep's-clothing.

To follow, we need to know what was found in those black boxes from 9/11. What nat'l security info could they possibly contain except old and outdated info? What happened to the plane at the pentagon? What happened to the plane that "went down" in PA? Again, unless some US official is hiding something big, this info is sufficiently outdated to be of no nat'l security concern.

ANYTHING and EVERYTHING related to extra-terrestrial life. Peeps, you are correct, it is the height of arrogance to think we puny humans are the only sentient species in this infinate universe.

WHO SHOT JFK? That he was shot by one person acting alone is the biggest pile of stinky horseshit...that is until dubya came along...

that's all my early morning brain can come up with...

The government keeps a lot of stuff secret simply because the people would freak the fuck out if they knew the truth...

thats sorta my whole basis for this, the general populace wouldnt be comfortable with knowing whats going on, and thats not to say cause of bush, every president has done some very horrible/shady deals if you ask me

I'd like to know what sorts of treasures the government has hidden away. You know, like if "Raiders of the Lost Ark" is actually a documentary and we really do have the Ark of the Covenant stashed away in some sweet government warehouse. I also want to see Hitler's Brain in a glass jar. We've gotta have THAT somewhere. As far as aliens go, I think the world would flip if the government had irrefutable evidence of their existence. Especially if they're stinkin' mutants from Mars (damn Kuato and his Freedom Brigade!).

who's got the brain of jfk and whats it mean to us now?

amen. i want to know

As a citizen, I would rather know the terrible truth than have a completely ambiguous device such as the terror alert.

I think the government needs to be fully accountable to its citizens if they demand the truth, and I think the media has to make sure those cries for truth are heard. If the information may pose a risk to the nation, that must be considered, but there should never be anything that the government knows that the people will not have a chance to become aware of.

Government exists to serve the people, and that is something that must never be forgotten.

i am molto curious about this one. my money is on the CIA - who else could they be protecting?

I agree

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