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Ten years ago, I was joking to a fellow libertarian professor that the next thing that would get put on the chopping block when the cigarette companies were decapitated was fast food and/or soft-drink marketers. Sadly, it looks like the fight is brewing, and soon - probably very soon, as in within the next five to ten years - courts will start to have to deal with massive lawsuits from people who have health problems from eating fast food and drinking sodas all of their lives.
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LONDON - Prince Charles suggested Tuesday on a visit to the United Arab Emirates that banning McDonald's fast food was crucial for improving people's diets, a British news agency reported.
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Charles made the comments while visiting the Imperial College London Diabetes Center in Abu Dhabi for the launch of a public health campaign, The Press Association reported.
"Have you got anywhere with McDonald's? Have you tried getting it banned? That's the key," Charles was quoted as asking one of the center's nutritionists.
A McDonald's spokesman, Nick Hindle, called the remark disappointing. He said other members of the royal family "have probably got a more up-to-date picture of us," alluding to reports that Charles' son, Prince Harry, was spotted eating a chicken burger at McDonald's in 2005.
"This appears to be an off-the-cuff remark, in our opinion," Hindle said. "It does not reflect our menu or where we are as a business."
The Oak Brook, Illinois-based McDonald's Corp. took steps last year to display nutrition facts on its packaging and vary its menu to counter charges that its food is unhealthy and contributes to obesity. There are 25 McDonald's franchises in the United Arab Emirates.
Charles, who is first in line to the British throne, is an active advocate of organic food and in 1986 set up a farm on his Highgrove Estate that does not use artificial pesticides or fertilizers.
The prince was in the United Arab Emirates with his wife, Camilla, as part of a tour of Gulf countries.
The United Arab Emirates has the world's second highest number of diabetes cases per capita, with more than 20 percent of those aged 20 to 79 already diagnosed with the illness, while 40 percent of the population are at risk.
It begins.
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People....always trying to blame everyone else for their problems.
Don't touch my McDonalds!!
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 7:44 pm Posts: 8910 Location: Santa Cruz Gender: Male
This began a while ago actually. There have been a bunch of people and a few groups that have brought suits against McDonalds and other fast food places. They have all failed miserably.
I dont see how they have any hope of ever winning. It's nothing like the cigarette battle at all. People have known for a very, very long time about nutritional requirements and what could be good and bad for you to eat. This isnt some kind of epiphany here. With cigarettes it was different because for a good long time, people didnt really know the effects, and when they started becoming apparent, they tried to hide it.
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Burger King is a UK brand, right? I assume so not because the name but because they had new fries a while ago and I first had them while visitng the UK back in '99. I imagine that McDonald's was named because its an American corporation, and big bad American companies are the easiest scapegoat in the history of mankind, second only to the Jews. Of course its probably also related to it being the largest chain, but if a non American competitor were to outpace it, it would still be demonized far more.
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Buggy wrote:
This began a while ago actually. There have been a bunch of people and a few groups that have brought suits against McDonalds and other fast food places. They have all failed miserably.
I dont see how they have any hope of ever winning. It's nothing like the cigarette battle at all. People have known for a very, very long time about nutritional requirements and what could be good and bad for you to eat. This isnt some kind of epiphany here. With cigarettes it was different because for a good long time, people didnt really know the effects, and when they started becoming apparent, they tried to hide it.
I do think that cigarettes have been linked to health problems for quite a while. I saw a website documenting some old articles (by old I mean 20-100 years) but I don't have time to find it since I have to be in class in half an hour. How widespread that knowledge was before now I don't know, but from what I gathered years and years back most people had at least a rudimentary knowledge that sticking a burning piece of something in your mouth and inhaling the smoke could be bad for you in the long run.
Of course, the cigarette companies tried to cover this up, but, in a way, the fast-food restaurant business is doing something similar - there are no warnings on their wrappings or in the store. That does sound silly, I know, but I'd bet that there will be warnings within the next two or three decades. I think that - at least for the time being - court suits (and I do remember the ones you mentioned) will get laughed out by the judge, just as suits against cigarette companies would've been laughed out in the 50's, but government reprimand around the world against fast-food might come from quick implementations of aforementioned warnings or, as the article mentions, outright bannings of such establishments.
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Merrill wrote:
in a way, the fast-food restaurant business is doing something similar - there are no warnings on their wrappings or in the store.
They have all their foods nutritional information available. There is no need for a warning because you know exactly what you are eating and what nutritional factors apply.
Merrill wrote:
That does sound silly, I know, but I'd bet that there will be warnings within the next two or three decades.
I hope not. I'd rather not have the government waste time and money on something that is really a matter of personal responsibility, and not governmental intervention. Again, this is something that is largely known, and people choose to do it anyway. Just like cigarettes nowadays. People KNOW the dangers, and still decide to do it anyway. You dont need a warning on McDonalds food. The nutritional posting tells you every bit of information you need to know. That in itself is warning enough.
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Buggy wrote:
Merrill wrote:
in a way, the fast-food restaurant business is doing something similar - there are no warnings on their wrappings or in the store.
They have all their foods nutritional information available. There is no need for a warning because you know exactly what you are eating and what nutritional factors apply.
Merrill wrote:
That does sound silly, I know, but I'd bet that there will be warnings within the next two or three decades.
I hope not. I'd rather not have the government waste time and money on something that is really a matter of personal responsibility, and not governmental intervention. Again, this is something that is largely known, and people choose to do it anyway. Just like cigarettes nowadays. People KNOW the dangers, and still decide to do it anyway. You dont need a warning on McDonalds food. The nutritional posting tells you every bit of information you need to know. That in itself is warning enough.
If anything they should be required to always have the nurtitional information on hand because it seems that often they have a sign directing you to a website where the information can be found. I thought they had to have pamphlets, but perhaps this is deemed an acceptable substitute. Pamphlets always seem so much more official.
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simple schoolboy wrote:
If anything they should be required to always have the nurtitional information on hand because it seems that often they have a sign directing you to a website where the information can be found. I thought they had to have pamphlets, but perhaps this is deemed an acceptable substitute. Pamphlets always seem so much more official.
I've never had a problem finding the nutritional info posted on the wall or on a pamphlet. I'm sure they dont have them in every single restaurant, but most do. Actually, if there were anything I would force the fast food industry to do by law, it would simply to make them provide the nutritional information for their food (just like food you buy in the store). As of now, there is no such requirement.
I hope not. I'd rather not have the government waste time and money on something that is really a matter of personal responsibility, and not governmental intervention.
if we go towards national health care, it will be indeed be a matter of government intervention and rightfully so
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Peeps wrote:
Buggy wrote:
I hope not. I'd rather not have the government waste time and money on something that is really a matter of personal responsibility, and not governmental intervention.
if we go towards national health care, it will be indeed be a matter of government intervention and rightfully so
That will be a sad day. So will national health care, from what I can tell.
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He's a figurehead, not to mention the royal family is an utter joke to begin with. How is this news?
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