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Author:  corduroy_blazer [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:56 am ]
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So does anyone hold any hope that something significant will be done to address climate change in the next four years?

Author:  knee tunes [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:33 am ]
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Yes, I think we should squeeze orange juice.

Author:  McParadigm [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:32 pm ]
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I dont see any odds whatsoever that something approaching the amount of needed change will occur. Given the choice between immediate economic woes and future economic catastrophy, i think most peoples vote is obvious.

Honestly, i think its been a long time now that the best hope we have is our ever accelerating technology and scientific knowledge. Its more of a race to prepare than a race to prevent.

Author:  thodoks [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:58 pm ]
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we should take more pictures of sad polar bears

Author:  Owl_Farmer [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:39 pm ]
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Stuff be fucked.

Author:  McParadigm [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:24 pm ]
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Artist's rendition:

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Author:  broken iris [ Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:19 pm ]
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corduroy_blazer wrote:
So does anyone hold any hope that something significant will be done to address climate change in the next four years?


Well, partisan politics could slide us into a deeper recession and people could stop buying gasoline (assuming you still think that car emissions matter in climate change).

But srsly any of these I give a 50/50 chance to:

    protectionist trade policies could be enacted
    people could greatly reduce red meat consumption due to rising costs
    government subsidies could shift energy production away from coal

Author:  Green Habit [ Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:07 pm ]
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broken iris wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
So does anyone hold any hope that something significant will be done to address climate change in the next four years?


Well, partisan politics could slide us into a deeper recession and people could stop buying gasoline (assuming you still think that car emissions matter in climate change).

But srsly any of these I give a 50/50 chance to:

    protectionist trade policies could be enacted
    people could greatly reduce red meat consumption due to rising costs
    government subsidies could shift energy production away from coal
You honestly think this is a 50/50 chance? I wish it was, but people like beef way too much.

Author:  broken iris [ Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:43 pm ]
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Green Habit wrote:
broken iris wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
So does anyone hold any hope that something significant will be done to address climate change in the next four years?


Well, partisan politics could slide us into a deeper recession and people could stop buying gasoline (assuming you still think that car emissions matter in climate change).

But srsly any of these I give a 50/50 chance to:

    protectionist trade policies could be enacted
    people could greatly reduce red meat consumption due to rising costs
    government subsidies could shift energy production away from coal


You honestly think this is a 50/50 chance? I wish it was, but people like beef way too much.


The coming re-recession plus a significant cost increase (maybe pricier feed stocks) would shift consumption away from beef. Maybe not 50/50 that Obama would target this in his second term, but it could be a side effect of other laws.

Author:  corduroy_blazer [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:30 am ]
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McParadigm wrote:
Honestly, i think its been a long time now that the best hope we have is our ever accelerating technology and scientific knowledge. Its more of a race to prepare than a race to prevent.

This is point worth pondering. I attended a panel discussion near recently and one of the speakers mentioned that, because things are getting so bad, it is as important to discuss pro-active preventative measures as it is to discuss defensive measures. In other words, we should try to fix problems going forward, but the environment is bad and getting worse, and we should try to prepare for the consequences.

Or, if you are a devout believer, get excited.

Author:  McParadigm [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:28 pm ]
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Just looking at the kinds of numerical changes that would have to occur, and the time frame in which they would have to happen, makes prevention look impossible to my eyes. And that's not even factoring in the pressures and needs of the human element.

But the speed and scope of human technological inventiveness is, interestingly enough, more impossible to predict than an entire planet's geological and geothermal future...so every new day makes a difference.

Author:  bmacsmith [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:11 pm ]
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two words: giant fans.

Author:  turned2black [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:17 pm ]
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bmacsmith wrote:
two words: giant fans.

*Giants fans
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Author:  thodoks [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:04 pm ]
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let's put bob costas in charge of climate policy

Author:  Man in Black [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:19 pm ]
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McParadigm wrote:
Just looking at the kinds of numerical changes that would have to occur, and the time frame in which they would have to happen, makes prevention look impossible to my eyes. And that's not even factoring in the pressures and needs of the human element.

But the speed and scope of human technological inventiveness is, interestingly enough, more impossible to predict than an entire planet's geological and geothermal future...so every new day makes a difference.


Two degrees (that's centigrade, my dear dumb Americans) is already built into the system. It's time to prepare and adapt, cretin America, and pay for your gluttonous use of fossil fuels.

On a side note, my feet are fucking freezing, I'll take two degrees right now.

Author:  corduroy_blazer [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:19 pm ]
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Send some of that brisk weather down south. It's fucking 70 degrees in Washington, D.C.

Author:  Rebar [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:22 pm ]
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Man in Black wrote:
Two degrees (that's centigrade, my dear dumb Americans)

Excuse me, but I drive a Land Rover. The temp display is only in centigrade.

Author:  broken iris [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:48 pm ]
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Man in Black wrote:

Two degrees (that's centigrade, my dear dumb Americans) is already built into the system. It's time to prepare and adapt, cretin America, and pay for your gluttonous use of fossil fuels.

On a side note, my feet are fucking freezing, I'll take two degrees right now.


I assume that's a typo and you mean "China", as they overtook the US in the mid-2000s and are well on their way to catching up in total historical emissions levels. America still has the best food production system in the world and could withstand project global warming levels, we will survive. We will just have to start producing our own iCrap again.

corduroy_blazer wrote:
Send some of that brisk weather down south. It's fucking 70 degrees in Washington, D.C.


It was beautiful, don't complain.

Author:  Man in Black [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:23 am ]
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broken iris wrote:
Man in Black wrote:

Two degrees (that's centigrade, my dear dumb Americans) is already built into the system. It's time to prepare and adapt, cretin America, and pay for your gluttonous use of fossil fuels.

On a side note, my feet are fucking freezing, I'll take two degrees right now.


I assume that's a typo and you mean "China", as they overtook the US in the mid-2000s and are well on their way to catching up in total historical emissions levels. America still has the best food production system in the world and could withstand project global warming levels, we will survive. We will just have to start producing our own iCrap again.


Actually, and don't tell Matt Damon, carbon emissions in the US are on the decline because of all this natural gas we're getting from frakking. It's a lot cleaner burning energy source than coal. Coal industry isn't doing so well right now :(

Author:  Man in Black [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:23 am ]
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broken iris wrote:
Man in Black wrote:

Two degrees (that's centigrade, my dear dumb Americans) is already built into the system. It's time to prepare and adapt, cretin America, and pay for your gluttonous use of fossil fuels.

On a side note, my feet are fucking freezing, I'll take two degrees right now.


I assume that's a typo and you mean "China", as they overtook the US in the mid-2000s and are well on their way to catching up in total historical emissions levels. America still has the best food production system in the world and could withstand project global warming levels, we will survive. We will just have to start producing our own iCrap again.


Actually, and don't tell Matt Damon, carbon emissions in the US are on the decline because of all this natural gas we're getting from frakking. It's a lot cleaner burning energy source than coal. Coal industry isn't doing so well right now :(

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