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Virus shown to protect mice against bubonic plague, other dangerous germs.

The herpes family of viruses can have a surprising upside — it can protect against the bubonic plague and other bacterial contagions, at least in mice.

Research into whether a similar mechanism applies to humans and other mammalian hosts should be conducted, said viral immunologist Skip Virgin at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. "There may be symbiotic advantages to chronic infections with these viruses."

These new results do not mean people should go out and get infected with herpes, Virgin stressed. They probably already are. Nearly all humans become infected with multiple herpes virus family members during childhood. These germs not only include the herpes simplex viruses, which lead to cold sores and possibly genital herpes, but also the diseases responsible for chickenpox and "mono," as well as several less well-known ailments. Herpes infections have bedeviled animals for more than 100 million years.

After the initial period of infection, these viruses enter a dormant state known as latency. Many lurk for the lifetime of their hosts "as permanent passengers" without causing overt symptoms, Virgin said.

Virgin and his colleagues experimented with viruses highly similar genetically to ones that cause mono and other diseases in humans. These germs normally cause fatigue and ruffled fur in mice, although the researchers used dose levels too low to cause symptoms.

The scientists discovered latent infections with these viruses could protect mice from bacterial infections, including Yersinia pestis, which causes bubonic plague, and Listeria monocytogenes, which causes one kind of food poisoning, findings detailed in the May 17 issue of the journal Nature.

The herpes viruses spur the immune system to boost levels of a protein hormone called interferon gamma "that in effect puts some immune system soldiers on yellow alert, causing them to patrol for invaders with their eyes wide open and defense weapons ready," Virgin said. As a result, the bacteria grew more slowly and were less likely to kill the mice. Future research can investigate whether these latent infections protect against other viruses.

Still, while people might benefit from symbiotic relationships with the herpes family of viruses, they can also have serious consequences, such as deafness, blindness, encephalitis and cancer.

"The presence of these viruses seems to be a two-edged sword," Virgin told LiveScience. "I am quite concerned that we be sensitive to these true human tragedies while recognizing the potential of a new way to view these infections."

Uncovering any potential benefits of these viruses in humans will prove hard, Virgin cautioned, "since nearly all humans are infected with these viruses at a young age, so it will be hard to find people without them for comparison."

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So I guess there are benefits to haveing unprotected sex with 5 dollar hookers. 8)


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This doesn't surprise me too much--it sounds like a good Darwinian argument. It's something similar to sickle-cell anemia providing a little protection against malaria as a reason why that mutation has lasted for so long.

A couple less serious comments:

--Does anyone else find it ironic that an article about herpes features a man with the last name of "Virgin" in it?

--Any thread regarding herpes has to include this:

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So I guess there are benefits to haveing unprotected sex with 5 dollar hookers. 8)


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M-m-Mom?

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MarshVegas wrote:
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I'd fuck her.

I can't believe i never got herpes or any other disease. I never used a condom in my life and had about 25 "partners".

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Clubber wrote:
B wrote:
MarshVegas wrote:
So I guess there are benefits to haveing unprotected sex with 5 dollar hookers. 8)


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I'd fuck her.

I can't believe i never got herpes or any other disease. I never used a condom in my life and had about 25 "partners".


Thats incredible, now I wanna fuck you too.

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deathbyflannel wrote:
Clubber wrote:
B wrote:
MarshVegas wrote:
So I guess there are benefits to haveing unprotected sex with 5 dollar hookers. 8)


The new face of your longevity:
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I'd fuck her.

I can't believe i never got herpes or any other disease. I never used a condom in my life and had about 25 "partners".


Thats incredible, now I wanna fuck you too.


Do you have big tits? That would help

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i'm going to laugh when you all die of the plague and I'm safe.


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I can't believe i never got herpes or any other disease. I never used a condom in my life and had about 25 "partners".


Have you been tested? I'm betting you've got it.

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B wrote:
Clubber wrote:
I can't believe i never got herpes or any other disease. I never used a condom in my life and had about 25 "partners".


Have you been tested? I'm betting you've got it.


He's right. You may not have your first outbreak until years after you were infected, but you'll be shedding the virus and potentially passing it on to others the whole time.

Go get tested. Oh, and start using a condom.


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SLH916 wrote:
B wrote:
Clubber wrote:
I can't believe i never got herpes or any other disease. I never used a condom in my life and had about 25 "partners".


Have you been tested? I'm betting you've got it.


He's right. You may not have your first outbreak until years after you were infected, but you'll be shedding the virus and potentially passing it on to others the whole time.

Go get tested. Oh, and start using a condom.


Or just admit you're a virgin. That'd prolly be the ideal solution. Why put "partners" in quotes unless is an estimate of how many keyboards one has desecrated with ejaculate.

Now, lets get back on topic. I wanna start a family, is church a good place to pick up sluts?

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Why put "partners" in quotes?


Isn't that just Clubber's subtle way of admitting that he's gay?

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deathbyflannel wrote:
Now, lets get back on topic. I wanna start a family, is church a good place to pick up sluts?


When you say you want to start a family, does that mean that you want sluts already equiped with herpes and kids from a bunch of different guys? If so, church may be the perfect place to look.


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