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 Post subject: Re: Iceland best place to live, Africa worst
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:21 am 
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I wouldnt like to live in Iceland, no matter what.


Why? I here it's a great place. I'd like to visit someday, but in all reality its so far down the list, that unless I get some cushy job that affords me at least two months vacation a year, I'll NEVER get there.

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 Post subject: Re: Iceland best place to live, Africa worst
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Human Bass wrote:
I wouldnt like to live in Iceland, no matter what.


Why? I here it's a great place. I'd like to visit someday, but in all reality its so far down the list, that unless I get some cushy job that affords me at least two months vacation a year, I'll NEVER get there.



I know its a great place and such, but too far from the Equator line to me.

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 Post subject: Re: Iceland best place to live, Africa worst
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LittleWing wrote:
shades-go-down wrote:
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America has the best cancer institutes, the best heart hospitals, the best childrens hospitals. We have the best surgeons, the best cardiologists, the best neurologists.


This may all be correct.

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When the worlds elite get sick, they come here. Not to France, or Canada, or Britain. They come here.


Surely I don't need to do the rest of the analysis for you.


No, do it. Because when I had my eurythmia, even as a commoner, I had the privelege of seeing one of the best, if not the BEST specialist in my problems in the northeast. And when my commoner mom had her cancer, she had the same elite access to one of the worlds best cancer institutes that the elites get. The Mayo Clinic isn't full of rich sick people. John Hopkins isn't full of rich sick people. We all have the same damn access to it. All you need to do is invest in your body like you invest in your car. But somehow in this country, people manage to be more fully responsible for their auto's, then their own bodies, then complain that they're left out of the cold. Oh yeah, there's that thing called called medicare and medicaid, which ironically is the same ticket into those elite hospitals.


Sure and MD Anderson, arguably the best cancer hospital in the world isn't full of rich people either, but if you think the access to these facilities is good via Medicaid in particular, you are sadly, sadly mistaken.

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 Post subject: Re: Iceland best place to live, Africa worst
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i agree with LW. factoring in average life expectancy without some sort of control for the fact that so many Americans are willingly assuming huge health risks doesn't make a lot of sense.

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i agree with LW. factoring in average life expectancy without some sort of control for the fact that so many Americans are willingly assuming huge health risks doesn't make a lot of sense.

But are more Americans willingly assuming more health risks than other nations or is that just a perception? Do we have any statitistics to back that up?

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Also, when I messed up my shoulder real bad back in 2002, my orthopedic surgeon was the orthopedic surgeon for the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, only the elite have access to great health care here...


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 Post subject: Re: Iceland best place to live, Africa worst
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i'm pretty sure iceland's government is awesome.


They have some awesome horses, too.

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What is the difference between medicare and medicaid? I thought it was just a matter of age?

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I'm pretty sure ALL old people get Medicaid. Fucked up, if you ask me.

edit: Rather, all old people have it available. They just need to apply, and follow a few simple guidelines, and they get it. My grandmother gets it, it pays a lot of fucking money, and she already has enough wealth saved personally to pay all her bills for like 50 years anyway. It is quite ludicrous.

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I'm pretty sure ALL old people get Medicaid. Fucked up, if you ask me.

edit: Rather, all old people have it available. They just need to apply, and follow a few simple guidelines, and they get it. My grandmother gets it, it pays a lot of fucking money, and she already has enough wealth saved personally to pay all her bills for like 50 years anyway. It is quite ludicrous.

Old people get medicare. Poor people get medicaid.

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 Post subject: Re: Iceland best place to live, Africa worst
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Ok, so I switched them up, but the rest is correct, no?

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 Post subject: Re: Iceland best place to live, Africa worst
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Buffalohed wrote:
Ok, so I switched them up, but the rest is correct, no?

I think so. I have neither, so I can't say for sure.

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punkdavid wrote:
Buffalohed wrote:
I'm pretty sure ALL old people get Medicaid. Fucked up, if you ask me.

edit: Rather, all old people have it available. They just need to apply, and follow a few simple guidelines, and they get it. My grandmother gets it, it pays a lot of fucking money, and she already has enough wealth saved personally to pay all her bills for like 50 years anyway. It is quite ludicrous.

Old people get medicare. Poor people get medicaid.


Maybe old poor people get both. :?:


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 Post subject: Re: Iceland best place to live, Africa worst
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medicaid is a program funded by the federal, state and local governments. its requirements change from state to state, as do its money liabilities. i know that in new york -- the costliest program in the u.s. -- the feds pay 50 percent, state pays 34 percent, and local governments 16 percent, with its aim to provide health care to the poor and and disabled. there are certain cutoff lines in terms of income and assets.

medicare is a federal health insurance program designed for people over 65 and some people with disabilities. recently, though, its prescription drug component was privatized.

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 Post subject: Re: Iceland best place to live, Africa worst
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recently, though, its prescription drug component was made to be unecessarily complicated and costly, without any additional provisions for funding.


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It has made it more complicated, but it also allows for more money. I'm not sure how it works, but I know that old people get fuckloads of money, whether they need it or not, to pay for medications.

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Buffalohed wrote:
It has made it more complicated, but it also allows for more money. I'm not sure how it works, but I know that old people get fuckloads of money, whether they need it or not, to pay for medications.


dude, what the hell are you talking about? the government isn't just handing out money for old people to use at casinos. read up and get back to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_Part_D

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Human Bass wrote:
I wouldnt like to live in Iceland, no matter what.

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I do wanna live in Iceland.

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