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So Vatican Bishops have rent boys on speed dial it seems


Papal aide linked to Vatican gay prostitution ring
PADDY AGNEW in Rome

“AT WHAT time does he have to be back in the seminary?” The question might seem innocent enough, were it not for the fact that the man asking it is a Papal Gentleman, Angelo Balducci, and the man of whom he is asking it is his pimp, Vatican chorister and Nigerian, Chinediu Thiomas Ehiem.

If Italian media sources are to be believed, then the compromising shadow of a highly active gay prostitution ring currently hangs over both the Holy See and unnamed Rome seminary colleges.

The first casualty of this potentially explosive scandal was Thiomas Ehiem, who yesterday was dismissed from the choir of the Cappella Giulia, the choir used in St Peter’s for ceremonies which do not involve the pope.

The Cappella Giulia comes under the auspices of Cardinal Angelo Comastri, arch-priest of St Peter’s.

Vatican sources pointed out that Mr Ehiem was neither a priest nor a seminary student, but a lay member of the choir.

The revelations came to light during investigations into Angelo Balducci, former head of the Italian office of public works, who was arrested last month on suspicion of corruption. This related to the awarding of a series of public contracts for major events such as last year’s G8 Summit in La Maddalena, Sardinia (later moved to L’Aquila), the 2009 World Swimming Championships, and next year’s 150th anniversary celebrations of the Unity of Italy.

Phone taps of the last two years reveal that Mr Balducci regularly contacted two men, Mr Ehiem and Lorenzo Renzi, to ask them to set up “appointments” for him, “appointments” for which he would pay up to €2,000.

Mr Balducci would ask for a description of his “escort”, and would be furnished with details of the man’s height, weight, skin colour, age and sexual availability.

Transcripts of Mr Balducci’s conversations suggest that his “escorts” came from many different backgrounds, with some being illegal immigrants who badly needed money.

Others were seminary students in Rome.

Mr Balducci, who has been a Papal Gentleman since 1995, has long worked closely with the Holy See on behalf of the Italian state, overseeing the logistical and infrastructural requirements of events such as the Holy Year in 2000, the canonisations of Padre Pio and Opus Dei founder José Maria Escriva in 2002, and the beatification of Mother Teresa in 2003.

In the context of the investigation into the office of public works, investigators believe that Mr Balducci systematically abused his position, exacting favours that ranged from a job for his son to the construction of a swimming pool by builders who had been awarded public contracts.

Investigators believe that private sector contracts for last year’s G8 Summit were inflated from an initial €290 million to €600 million.

Papal Gentlemen are those lay attendants of the pope who serve in the papal household, in the Apostolic Palace and in St Peter’s on ceremonial occasions.

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I don't make threads about things like this because they have nothing to do with religion. Without or without religion things like this would happen.

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I don't make threads about things like this because they have nothing to do with religion. Without or without religion things like this would happen.


this isn't about you, its about GAY!

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Right, but I mean, big deal, there's a gay prostitution ring at the Vatican. There are hate-mongering gay Republicans outed everyday. It happens. Doesn't discredit either worldview.

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Right, but I mean, big deal, there's a gay prostitution ring at the Vatican. There are hate-mongering gay Republicans outed everyday. It happens. Doesn't discredit either worldview.


but at least we know who likes to party

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you guys are missing the point, it's not about religion, it's about hypocrisy.

i love this kind of threads.

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Proving that religion is hypocritical is kind of like proving that it's dark at night right?

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Proving that religion is hypocritical is kind of like proving that it's dark at night right?

You atheists are so arrogant.

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cutuphalfdead wrote:
Proving that religion is hypocritical is kind of like proving that it's dark at night right?

You atheists are so uppity.

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you guys are missing the point, it's not about religion, it's about hypocrisy.

i love this kind of threads.



Exactly. This is all within one week of Catholic Churches denying benefits to all employee partners out of fear of accidentally covering someone's "GAY!!!" partner.

Also, I read an article yesterday about a child being kicked out of a catholic daycare because he had two moms.

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rafa_garcia18 wrote:
you guys are missing the point, it's not about religion, it's about hypocrisy.

i love this kind of threads.



Exactly. This is all within one week of Catholic Churches denying benefits to all employee partners out of fear of accidentally covering someone's "GAY!!!" partner.

Also, I read an article yesterday about a child being kicked out of a catholic daycare because he had two moms.
I agree with the charge of hypocrisy. But can you name any person or organization that lives up to their beliefs? If you can live up to your ideals then I'd venture to say that your ideals are far to easy to attain. Hypocrisy is part of human nature.


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tyler wrote:
NaiveAndTrue wrote:
rafa_garcia18 wrote:
you guys are missing the point, it's not about religion, it's about hypocrisy.

i love this kind of threads.



Exactly. This is all within one week of Catholic Churches denying benefits to all employee partners out of fear of accidentally covering someone's "GAY!!!" partner.

Also, I read an article yesterday about a child being kicked out of a catholic daycare because he had two moms.
I agree with the charge of hypocrisy. But can you name any person or organization that lives up to their beliefs? If you can live up to your ideals then I'd venture to say that your ideals are far to easy to attain. Hypocrisy is part of human nature.


so that makes it ok?

i don't know what your point is. i don't care whose hipocrisy is exposed, all of it should be exposed. if we're all hipocrytes, at least we should be honest about it.

though i have to admit i specially relish in the catholic church being exposed as a bunch of atavistic hypocrites, mainly because 1. i was brought up a catholic (and no, i was not abused) 2. my family and pretty much everyone i know back home are still under their spell and i would like nothing more than for their faith in that "organization" to be shattered to pieces, so that maybe they would be able to put their passion and efforts/desire to do and be good to better ends.

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rafa_garcia18 wrote:
tyler wrote:
NaiveAndTrue wrote:
rafa_garcia18 wrote:
you guys are missing the point, it's not about religion, it's about hypocrisy.

i love this kind of threads.



Exactly. This is all within one week of Catholic Churches denying benefits to all employee partners out of fear of accidentally covering someone's "GAY!!!" partner.

Also, I read an article yesterday about a child being kicked out of a catholic daycare because he had two moms.
I agree with the charge of hypocrisy. But can you name any person or organization that lives up to their beliefs? If you can live up to your ideals then I'd venture to say that your ideals are far to easy to attain. Hypocrisy is part of human nature.


so that makes it ok?

i don't know what your point is. i don't care whose hipocrisy is exposed, all of it should be exposed. if we're all hipocrytes, at least we should be honest about it.

though i have to admit i specially relish in the catholic church being exposed as a bunch of atavistic hypocrites, mainly because 1. i was brought up a catholic (and no, i was not abused) 2. my family and pretty much everyone i know back home are still under their spell and i would like nothing more than for their faith in that "organization" to be shattered to pieces, so that maybe they would be able to put their passion and efforts/desire to do and be good to better ends.
If everyone is a hypocrite then what would make you ever think your family would be interested one group of hypocrites for another? Is one bunch of hypocrites a better bunch than another?

Of all the things to attack religion for, hypocrisy seems like the least effective.


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tyler wrote:
NaiveAndTrue wrote:
rafa_garcia18 wrote:
you guys are missing the point, it's not about religion, it's about hypocrisy.

i love this kind of threads.



Exactly. This is all within one week of Catholic Churches denying benefits to all employee partners out of fear of accidentally covering someone's "GAY!!!" partner.

Also, I read an article yesterday about a child being kicked out of a catholic daycare because he had two moms.
I agree with the charge of hypocrisy. But can you name any person or organization that lives up to their beliefs? If you can live up to your ideals then I'd venture to say that your ideals are far to easy to attain. Hypocrisy is part of human nature.

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or mob mentality/war time/evil friends/convincing squirrels/masturbating/generalizing quotes that affirm belief systems

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tyler wrote:
rafa_garcia18 wrote:
tyler wrote:
NaiveAndTrue wrote:
rafa_garcia18 wrote:
you guys are missing the point, it's not about religion, it's about hypocrisy.

i love this kind of threads.



Exactly. This is all within one week of Catholic Churches denying benefits to all employee partners out of fear of accidentally covering someone's "GAY!!!" partner.

Also, I read an article yesterday about a child being kicked out of a catholic daycare because he had two moms.
I agree with the charge of hypocrisy. But can you name any person or organization that lives up to their beliefs? If you can live up to your ideals then I'd venture to say that your ideals are far to easy to attain. Hypocrisy is part of human nature.


so that makes it ok?

i don't know what your point is. i don't care whose hipocrisy is exposed, all of it should be exposed. if we're all hipocrytes, at least we should be honest about it.

though i have to admit i specially relish in the catholic church being exposed as a bunch of atavistic hypocrites, mainly because 1. i was brought up a catholic (and no, i was not abused) 2. my family and pretty much everyone i know back home are still under their spell and i would like nothing more than for their faith in that "organization" to be shattered to pieces, so that maybe they would be able to put their passion and efforts/desire to do and be good to better ends.
If everyone is a hypocrite then what would make you ever think your family would be interested one group of hypocrites for another? Is one bunch of hypocrites a better bunch than another?

Of all the things to attack religion for, hypocrisy seems like the least effective.


1. i was not recommending any other group as an alternative. i don't belong to any ideological group. i am a loner hypocrite who only answers to myself.
2. i could care less about effectiveness, i relish all kinds of attacks on organized religion. attacks like this one may not be the most effective, but they certainly don't hurt.

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the inevitability of hypocrisy grows with each rule you create. religion is lots of rules... soo.... yeah

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