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Is this man mentally stable enough to hold office??
Cheney: Talk of blunders in Iraq is 'hogwash' POSTED: 6:11 p.m. EST, January 24, 2007
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Vice President Dick Cheney on Wednesday dismissed as "hogwash" the suggestion that blunders may have hurt the administration's credibility on Iraq and led members of Congress on both sides of the aisle to question President Bush's plan to send more troops to Baghdad.
In an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, conducted a day after Bush delivered his State of the Union address, Cheney was asked to respond to some Republicans in Congress who "are now seriously questioning your credibility, because of the blunders and the failures."
To that, Cheney answered, "Wolf, Wolf, I simply don't accept the premise of your question. I just think it's hogwash."
Cheney said the administration is committed to moving ahead with its plan to send more troops to Baghdad, even if Congress passes a resolution in opposition. (Read a transcript of the interview PDF)
"It won't stop us," he said. "And it would be, I think, detrimental from the standpoint of the troops."
If U.S. forces were to pull out of Iraq, "we would simply validate the terrorists' strategy that says the Americans will not stay to complete the task ... that we don't have the stomach for the fight. That's the biggest threat."
He added, "The notion that somehow the effort hasn't been worth it, or that we shouldn't go ahead and complete the task, is just dead wrong."
Cheney said the U.S.-led ouster of Saddam Hussein was the right move. (Watch Cheney tell why the war is a success Video)
"The world is much safer today because of it," Cheney said.
"There have been three national elections in Iraq. There's a democracy established there, a constitution, a new democratically elected government.
"Saddam has been brought to justice and executed, his sons are dead, his government is gone. And the world is better off for it," he said.
Had Hussein been allowed to remain at the helm of Iraq, "he would, at this point, be engaged in a nuclear arms race with (Iranian President Mahmoud) Ahmadinejad, his blood enemy next door in Iran."
Still, Cheney acknowledged "ongoing problems" in Iraq, where an insurgency is blamed for dozens of Iraqi deaths per day and there have been more than 3,000 U.S. military fatalities over the course of the nearly four-year-old war.
"There's problems -- ongoing problems. But we have, in fact, accomplished our objectives of getting rid of the old regime, and there is a new regime in place that's been there for less than a year, far too soon for you guys to write them off."
He added, "We still have more work to do to get a handle on the security situation, and the president's put a plan in place to do that." (Watch how the war in Iraq has changed Video)
Asked to describe the biggest mistake made by U.S. war planners, Cheney said, "I think we underestimated the extent to which 30 years of Saddam's rule had really hammered the population, especially the Shia population, into submissiveness. It's very hard for them to stand up and take responsibility, in part because anybody who's done that in the past have had their heads chopped off."
Asked about criticism from a conservative group about the pregnancy of his daughter Mary, who is in a relationship with a female partner, Cheney expressed irritation with the question.
"I'm delighted I'm about to have a sixth grandchild, Wolf," he said. "And obviously I think the world of both my daughters and all of my grandchildren.
"And I think, frankly, you're out of line with that question."
And the vice president carefully avoided talk about the 2008 presidential race beyond expressing outright opposition to Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York "because she's a Democrat" and saying he and Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona "agree on many things and disagree on others."
While refusing otherwise to speculate on the 2008 campaign, Cheney said the Clinton will not be president, and even if she were to win she wouldn't make a good chief executive.
"I don't agree with her philosophically and from a policy standpoint," the vice president said.
McCain, like Clinton a likely presidential aspirant, said last week that President Bush has "been very badly served by both the vice president and, most of all, [former] Secretary of Defense" Donald Rumsfeld.
But Cheney shrugged off McCain's comments, calling the Arizona senator a "good man."
Cheney defended Rumsfeld for doing a "superb job" in his six years in the Bush administration.
Burn in hell, you stupid fat, artery-clogged bastard
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LittleWing sometime in July 2007 wrote:
Unfortunately, it's so elementary, and the big time investors behind the drive in the stock market aren't so stupid. This isn't the false economy of 2000.
Had Hussein been allowed to remain at the helm of Iraq, "he would, at this point, be engaged in a nuclear arms race with (Iranian President Mahmoud) Ahmadinejad, his blood enemy next door in Iran."
well, if we weren't stuck in iraq we might actually be able to do something about iran's (supposed) nuclear program.
Had Hussein been allowed to remain at the helm of Iraq, "he would, at this point, be engaged in a nuclear arms race with (Iranian President Mahmoud) Ahmadinejad, his blood enemy next door in Iran."
well, if we weren't stuck in iraq we might actually be able to do something about iran's (supposed) nuclear program.
If the U.N. and all diplomacy fails, we'll still be able to deal with Iran's nuclear progam. While the least desired option, we would conduct air strikes against the sites (that we know of, at least). I don't think we would deliver a knock-out blow, but we would set their efforts back for decades. There's no way we would put boots on the ground in Iran.
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Herr Cheney wrote:
It won't stop us.
Would anything?
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Had Hussein been allowed to remain at the helm of Iraq, "he would, at this point, be engaged in a nuclear arms race with (Iranian President Mahmoud) Ahmadinejad, his blood enemy next door in Iran."
well, if we weren't stuck in iraq we might actually be able to do something about iran's (supposed) nuclear program.
If the U.N. and all diplomacy fails, we'll still be able to deal with Iran's nuclear progam. While the least desired option, we would conduct air strikes against the sites (that we know of, at least). I don't think we would deliver a knock-out blow, but we would set their efforts back for decades. There's no way we would put boots on the ground in Iran.
i know, but iran has obviously ramped up the rhetoric because we're bogged down in iraq and they're not afraid of any type of invasion, overthrow, or large-scale attack. plus they know that after iraq, the american public probably won't support a war for awhile. i don't think the iranian government is even afraid of airstrikes. they probably want a full-scale war that would rally middle eastern countries around them. they want to become the regional power and we gave them the opportunity to talk tough while we're involved in another fight.
if we weren't in iraq there's no way we'd be letting iran do this. we would never want another north korea. the US would be doing everything possible right now, whether through 'soft power' or 'hard power', to stop them.
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invention wrote:
LeninFlux wrote:
invention wrote:
glorified_version wrote:
Had Hussein been allowed to remain at the helm of Iraq, "he would, at this point, be engaged in a nuclear arms race with (Iranian President Mahmoud) Ahmadinejad, his blood enemy next door in Iran."
well, if we weren't stuck in iraq we might actually be able to do something about iran's (supposed) nuclear program.
If the U.N. and all diplomacy fails, we'll still be able to deal with Iran's nuclear progam. While the least desired option, we would conduct air strikes against the sites (that we know of, at least). I don't think we would deliver a knock-out blow, but we would set their efforts back for decades. There's no way we would put boots on the ground in Iran.
i know, but iran has obviously ramped up the rhetoric because we're bogged down in iraq and they're not afraid of any type of invasion, overthrow, or large-scale attack. plus they know that after iraq, the american public probably won't support a war for awhile. i don't think the iranian government is even afraid of airstrikes. they probably want a full-scale war that would rally middle eastern countries around them. they want to become the regional power and we gave them the opportunity to talk tough while we're involved in another fight.
if we weren't in iraq there's no way we'd be letting iran do this. we would never want another north korea. the US would be doing everything possible right now, whether through 'soft power' or 'hard power', to stop them.
I'd imagine that the Arab states want to avoid an Iranian nuke about as much as we do, but I could understand their desire to keep the U.S. out of the equation. It is my sincere hope that one day the Middle East can agree on something other than the necessity of the destruction of Israel.
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the funny thing is that i can't even watch him or bush without seeing jon stewart's imitations of them. how about cheney's anti-christ smirk about 8 minutes into the SOTU address? and dubya's hick-in-a-suit head bob is legendary. they are walking caricatures of themselves.
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glorified_version wrote:
Asked about criticism from a conservative group about the pregnancy of his daughter Mary, who is in a relationship with a female partner, Cheney expressed irritation with the question.
"I'm delighted I'm about to have a sixth grandchild, Wolf," he said. "And obviously I think the world of both my daughters and all of my grandchildren.
"And I think, frankly, you're out of line with that question."
fucking hypocrite wont even stand up for his own daughter when she is attacked by a "social conservative" group he has catered to for years. that question is not out of line, it was a great question to point out his continued hypocricy when it comes to homosexuals and their rights.
he is a disgusting hypocrite.
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my2hands wrote:
glorified_version wrote:
Asked about criticism from a conservative group about the pregnancy of his daughter Mary, who is in a relationship with a female partner, Cheney expressed irritation with the question.
"I'm delighted I'm about to have a sixth grandchild, Wolf," he said. "And obviously I think the world of both my daughters and all of my grandchildren.
"And I think, frankly, you're out of line with that question."
fucking hypocrite wont even stand up for his own daughter when she is attacked by a "social conservative" group he has catered to for years. that question is not out of line, it was a great question to point out his continued hypocricy when it comes to homosexuals and their rights.
he is a disgusting hypocrite.
That alone is reason enough for him to be skewered like a pig and roasted over the ashes of dead Iraqis.
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LittleWing sometime in July 2007 wrote:
Unfortunately, it's so elementary, and the big time investors behind the drive in the stock market aren't so stupid. This isn't the false economy of 2000.
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