i really don't care about either of these fuckers or about this excessively subjective "approval rating" thing, but this is getting sort of embarrassing for the US. are there any bush supporters anymore?

(and don't be smart asses, i know that "34%" of the US population thinks Bush is doing a good job--hence they are Bush supporters)




http://usliberals.about.com/b/a/2006_02_27.htm

I don't want to hear any complaining from the population, they were the morons who wanted 4 more years of these idiots.

"Democracy is great, the people always get what they deserve." I forget who said this, but it is quite appropriate.

Exactly.

Bad news travels faster than good news at a 10:1 ratio. For example, if you had a contractor remodel your house and were unhappy with their work, you would tell 10 people what a shitty job they did for every one person you would have told if they did a good job.

I believe this correlates to something like an approval rating poll. People enjoy speaking about against things they don't like and complaining, whereas people who are indifferent or even happy with the situation would tend to just keep their mouth shut and not participate. 34% and 18% are pretty fucking low, and I'm not saying either figure would be a whole lot higher, but I do think the numbers are skewed somewhat.

if you look at the source of the article, it is the "US liberal news" or some such shit, so yeah, it's slanted, and you can make statistics say anything you want them to say anyway.

so i am just checking the accuracy of it all. i want to know if there is anyone here who still thinks that Bush and Cheney are the bee's knees.

If I had a contractor remodel my home and they did a fine job, I would definitely say so if asked whether or not I approve of their work.

I think the administration's supporters would say they approved if asked. Especially in an anonymous poll.

I was going to ask what the approval rating for the American people is. It's at an all-time low as far as I'm concerned.

Also, I have to mention that Bush's ratings dropped precipitously on the news about this Dubai Ports deal. I still think that anyone who is against this deal is being reactionary and is utterly ignorant of the facts of the matter, so I will give the President slightly more credit than these polls do. (38%, how's that?).

that still sounds a little high

i'm thinking here that Bush's main body constituency (i mangled that, didn't i?) has really turned on him with this ports thing....

how does he expect to get his sheep to stay scared and believe that the arabs are about to attack us, and then expect these same blind sheep to understand it when he "gives" all those major US ports to the UAE?

god, dubya is so ducking fumb.

I think the most significant piece of information we can gain from these ratings is the discrepancy between Bush's and Cheney's approval ratings. Even people who voted for Bush despise Cheney. My mother, for example, voted for Bush, but believes Cheney is absolutely corrupt, blames the war on him, etc.

Personally, I can't see how anyone with a soul could not recognize Cheney as being the embodiment of evil that he clearly is.

I hear that males, upon eye contact with Cheney, instantly become sterile.

Liberal Politics didn't take the poll. It was done by CBS. The major news outlets report opinion polls on the President every week regardless of what the number is, so the accusation by Bammer that we only got to see this poll b/c it's negative is proposterous.

As for it being slanted, CBS, ABC, USA Today, FOX News, and NBC, are just a few of the dozens of news outlets that release Presidential opinion polls by randomly calling American households. I don't see anyone disputing this, certainly not by a large margin.

Bammer, why don't you review the full poll report and tell me how they distorted the facts. If anything, it should be a little skewed TOWARD Bush because poor people w/o phones are left out, and they are certainly more likely to hate Bush.

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/poll_bush_022706.pdf

I liked Jon Stewart's analogy on Larry King. Something along the lines of 4/5 dentists say flossing is good for you. The 1/5 are idiots and their opinions shouldn't count. That's how Cheney still has an 18% approval rating.

Didn't see this anywhere and thought it fit nicely in this thread.
http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075

Released: February 28, 2006
U.S. Troops in Iraq: 72% Say End War in 2006


Le Moyne College/Zogby Poll shows just one in five troops want to heed Bush call to stay “as long as they are needed”
While 58% say mission is clear, 42% say U.S. role is hazy
Plurality believes Iraqi insurgents are mostly homegrown
Almost 90% think war is retaliation for Saddam’s role in 9/11, most don’t blame Iraqi public for insurgent attacks
Majority of troops oppose use of harsh prisoner interrogation
Plurality of troops pleased with their armor and equipment
An overwhelming majority of 72% of American troops serving in Iraq think the U.S. should exit the country within the next year, and nearly one in four say the troops should leave immediately, a new Le Moyne College/Zogby International survey shows.

The poll, conducted in conjunction with Le Moyne College’s Center for Peace and Global Studies, showed that 29% of the respondents, serving in various branches of the armed forces, said the U.S. should leave Iraq “immediately,” while another 22% said they should leave in the next six months. Another 21% said troops should be out between six and 12 months, while 23% said they should stay “as long as they are needed.”

Different branches had quite different sentiments on the question, the poll shows. While 89% of reserves and 82% of those in the National Guard said the U.S. should leave Iraq within a year, 58% of Marines think so. Seven in ten of those in the regular Army thought the U.S. should leave Iraq in the next year. Moreover, about three-quarters of those in National Guard and Reserve units favor withdrawal within six months, just 15% of Marines felt that way. About half of those in the regular Army favored withdrawal from Iraq in the next six months.

The troops have drawn different conclusions about fellow citizens back home. Asked why they think some Americans favor rapid U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq, 37% of troops serving there said those Americans are unpatriotic, while 20% believe people back home don’t believe a continued occupation will work. Another 16% said they believe those favoring a quick withdrawal do so because they oppose the use of the military in a pre-emptive war, while 15% said they do not believe those Americans understand the need for the U.S. troops in Iraq.

The wide-ranging poll also shows that 58% of those serving in country say the U.S. mission in Iraq is clear in their minds, while 42% said it is either somewhat or very unclear to them, that they have no understanding of it at all, or are unsure. While 85% said the U.S. mission is mainly “to retaliate for Saddam’s role in the 9-11 attacks,” 77% said they also believe the main or a major reason for the war was “to stop Saddam from protecting al Qaeda in Iraq.”

“Ninety-three percent said that removing weapons of mass destruction is not a reason for U.S. troops being there,” said Pollster John Zogby, President and CEO of Zogby International. “Instead, that initial rationale went by the wayside and, in the minds of 68% of the troops, the real mission became to remove Saddam Hussein.” Just 24% said that “establishing a democracy that can be a model for the Arab World" was the main or a major reason for the war. Only small percentages see the mission there as securing oil supplies (11%) or to provide long-term bases for US troops in the region (6%).

The continuing insurgent attacks have not turned U.S. troops against the Iraqi population, the survey shows. More than 80% said they did not hold a negative view of Iraqis because of those attacks. About two in five see the insurgency as being comprised of discontented Sunnis with very few non-Iraqi helpers. “There appears to be confusion on this,” Zogby said. But, he noted, less than a third think that if non-Iraqi terrorists could be prevented from crossing the border into Iraq, the insurgency would end. A majority of troops (53%) said the U.S. should double both the number of troops and bombing missions in order to control the insurgency.

The survey shows that most U.S. military personnel in-country have a clear sense of right and wrong when it comes to using banned weapons against the enemy, and in interrogation of prisoners. Four in five said they oppose the use of such internationally banned weapons as napalm and white phosphorous. And, even as more photos of prisoner abuse in Iraq surface around the world, 55% said it is not appropriate or standard military conduct to use harsh and threatening methods against insurgent prisoners in order to gain information of military value.

Three quarters of the troops had served multiple tours and had a longer exposure to the conflict: 26% were on their first tour of duty, 45% were on their second tour, and 29% were in Iraq for a third time or more.

A majority of the troops serving in Iraq said they were satisfied with the war provisions from Washington. Just 30% of troops said they think the Department of Defense has failed to provide adequate troop protections, such as body armor, munitions, and armor plating for vehicles like HumVees. Only 35% said basic civil infrastructure in Iraq, including roads, electricity, water service, and health care, has not improved over the past year. Three of every four were male respondents, with 63% under the age of 30.

The survey included 944 military respondents interviewed at several undisclosed locations throughout Iraq. The names of the specific locations and specific personnel who conducted the survey are being withheld for security purposes. Surveys were conducted face-to-face using random sampling techniques. The margin of error for the survey, conducted Jan. 18 through Feb. 14, 2006, is +/- 3.3 percentage points.


(2/28/2006)

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I would like to know a little bit more about the survey itself. But those numbers are alarming. It looks like Bu$h is losing everyone who was on his side. He is a disgrace to human beings everywhere and the blood of over 1900 troops deaths are on his hands. Fuck GWB and Cheney and hope his numbers continue to drop. That is all.

What the FUCK are they telling our troops? With numbers like that, the military leadership must be intentionally spreading those lies. Those guys aren't THAT stupid.

A haha ha ha ha hah aha hahahaha ha haha hah ah aha haha ha!!!!

I can believe that you believe that CBS isn't liberal media...that's the funny part.

That was the head scratching part for me also. 90% is just an amazing number. There apparently is some question about the pollers of this poll, but even if they are off a bit, I'm sure it isn't off by that much.

In all seriousness. I super strongly doubt that.

I could ask the dumbest Marines in this company, and believe me, there are some dull stones in this bunch, and I doubt I could find 10% that know that the war is not retaliation because of Saddam's "role" in 9/11.

Out of curiousity, do any of these dull stones think Venezuela and North Korea are in the Mid East?