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Boy fed zoo reptiles to crocodile

A seven-year-old boy has been filmed going on the rampage at a popular zoo in Australia, killing rare reptiles and feeding live ones to a crocodile.

Footage from the security cameras at Alice Springs Reptile Centre caught the child smiling as he killed a total of 13 animals.

During his 30-minute spree, he was seen hurling the animals over the security fence into the crocodile enclosure.

Zoo officials described the boy's actions as "unbelievable".

They are considering suing the parents as the boy is too young to be prosecuted.

'Difficult to replace'

The attack happened on Wednesday morning after the boy entered the zoo by jumping over the security fence and evading sensor alarms.

Over the next half hour, he bludgeoned some of the animals to death with stones and hurled others over the two fences surrounding the crocodile enclosure.

At one point, he tried scaling the outer enclosure himself to get to "Terry", the 11ft (3.3m) saltwater crocodile.

A turtle, four Western blue-tongued lizards, two bearded dragons, two thorny devil lizards and the zoo's 20-year-old goanna were among those killed.

Zoo director Rex Neindorf said many of the animals were rare or mature and would be difficult to replace.

"The fact a seven-year-old can wreak so much havoc in such a short time, it's unbelievable," he told Reuters news agency.

Mr Neindorf said the boy had "clammed up" when questioned by police.

As children under the age of 10 cannot be held accountable for their actions in the Northern Territory, the zoo would be seeking to take action against the parents.

"We'll be looking at suing the parents, who were supposedly in control of him at the time," he said.


:haha:

I'm sorry. But every time I read this story or hear about it, it makes me laugh.

It's like some kind of a farcical comedy.

First there's the kid. He's on some kind of sugar induced high and he's there by himself. I don't know why, but the image of this kid running around trying to kill reptiles so he can feed them to the big bad croc is cracking me up.

The reaction of zoo officials is comical too. Charges? Against a 7 year old? And he was surprised that he fell below the age of criminal responsibility? :haha:

Suing the parents? I think the concept of "causation" might pose a problem in a negligence claim, dear sir.

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At one point, he tried scaling the outer enclosure himself to get to "Terry", the 11ft (3.3m) saltwater crocodile.

Wish he would have made it.

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bart d. wrote:
shades-go-down wrote:
At one point, he tried scaling the outer enclosure himself to get to "Terry", the 11ft (3.3m) saltwater crocodile.

Wish he would have made it.


:lol: That's exactly what I thought when I read that.


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marilyn mason is clearly to blame for this.

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marilyn mason is clearly to blame for this.



seriously, how old are you? :?

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PeopleMyAge wrote:
marilyn mason is clearly to blame for this.



seriously, how old are you? :?

22.

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bart d. wrote:
shades-go-down wrote:
At one point, he tried scaling the outer enclosure himself to get to "Terry", the 11ft (3.3m) saltwater crocodile.

Wish he would have made it.


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Any kid that's into systematically killing animals at 7 is a future serial killer.


What if they're ants?


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Feed him an overdose of Heroin right now.

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marilyn mason is clearly to blame for this.


i agree
or Dexter Morgan

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bart d. wrote:
shades-go-down wrote:
At one point, he tried scaling the outer enclosure himself to get to "Terry", the 11ft (3.3m) saltwater crocodile.

Wish he would have made it.


We should give him another try.

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I am just throwing this out there, and i know i am not even capable of being a voice of reason, but here goes..


Is it possible that he and his family visited during actual feeding time and the gators were fed something appropriate (a chicken or something) and he thought it was fun to watch and didnt comprehend the fact that what was being eaten would no longer be alive?


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Is it possible that he and his family visited during actual feeding time and the gators were fed something appropriate (a chicken or something) and he thought it was fun to watch and didnt comprehend the fact that what was being eaten would no longer be alive?


Yes I think so. He's seven! SEVEN!!!

Seriously, the zoo guy wants "someone to take responsibility here." Firstly, why is it that any time anything bad ever happens, it always has to be someone's fault? Western society is much too hung up on blame. Nothing can be bad luck or misfortune. No, it's someone's fault. We're going to apportion responsibility and then sue their asses. Pathetic.

Second, if we were to make someone take responsibility for this, how about we start with the zoo? Any zoo that isn't secure enough to prevent a child that is SEVEN from breaking in by himself needs to take a long hard look at it's own security measures.

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bart d. wrote:
shades-go-down wrote:
At one point, he tried scaling the outer enclosure himself to get to "Terry", the 11ft (3.3m) saltwater crocodile.

Wish he would have made it.

Was going to post the same thing.


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edzeppe wrote:
Is it possible that he and his family visited during actual feeding time and the gators were fed something appropriate (a chicken or something) and he thought it was fun to watch and didnt comprehend the fact that what was being eaten would no longer be alive?


Yes I think so. He's seven! SEVEN!!!

Seriously, the zoo guy wants "someone to take responsibility here." Firstly, why is it that any time anything bad ever happens, it always has to be someone's fault? Western society is much too hung up on blame. Nothing can be bad luck or misfortune. No, it's someone's fault. We're going to apportion responsibility and then sue their asses. Pathetic.

Second, if we were to make someone take responsibility for this, how about we start with the zoo? Any zoo that isn't secure enough to prevent a child that is SEVEN from breaking in by himself needs to take a long hard look at it's own security measures.

Because there is no effect without cause.

I'm not sure what monkey operation you guys are running down under, but here in the backwards US we believe that parents should be watching over their children, or at least make sure they are supervised at all times. If a SEVEN year old is running around on its own, obviously something has gone very wrong. I don't know what the situation was but it was possible the parents were negligent. This is a problem not only to defenseless animals, but to society and more likely the child itself.

We need to find blame to show what went wrong and how to prevent situations like this from repeating. Responsibility is the understanding that our actions have consequences, and we should refrain from bad actions as they usually have bad consequences. Before you shrug off these two concepts with your nationalistic smugness, try thinking first about just how important they are how life would be without them.


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Your tone is hilariously condescending. And I say hilarious because the quality of your analysis doesn't justify the condescension.

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Because there is no effect without cause.


Um, wrong.

I have neither the time nor inclination to launch into a philosophical debate on cause and effect, but in any event, "no effect without cause" is an unnecessary premise for the purpose of this debate because even if that were the case, it doesn't follow that the cause must be worthy of blame and financial sanction.

tryinmorning wrote:
I'm not sure what monkey operation you guys are running down under, but here in the backwards US we believe that parents should be watching over their children, or at least make sure they are supervised at all times.


Not sure I understand the reason for your hostility. Surely you understand that American and Australian values on parenting are more or less similar. You're either falsely inferring anti-Americanism in my post or are truly ignorant of the similarities and differences between the basic family structure and values of our two countries.

I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but I'm not sure which side to lean on. Neither bodes particularly well for you.

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If a SEVEN year old is running around on its own, obviously something has gone very wrong.


I'm in awe of your DEVASTATING use of irony.

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I don't know what the situation was but it was possible the parents were negligent. This is a problem not only to defenseless animals, but to society and more likely the child itself.


If you're using the word negligence in it's technical legal sense, you're wrong. If you're using it in its everyday sense, I agree. It's more than possible, in fact even likely that the parents are negligent.

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We need to find blame to show what went wrong and how to prevent situations like this from repeating. Responsibility is the understanding that our actions have consequences, and we should refrain from bad actions as they usually have bad consequences.


Sure, but surely you're not suggesting we turn to the zoo keeper for advice on how to address this kid's situation.

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Before you shrug off these two concepts with your nationalistic smugness, try thinking first about just how important they are how life would be without them.


Nationalistic smugness?

Sorry can I borrow your crack pipe? Where tdo you get nationalistic smugness from my post?

Also, where do you infer that I've dispensed generally with a value such as parental responsibility or the tort of negligence?

It's posts like this which has ensured my interest in RM has dissipated over time. It just isn't worth the energy.

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edzeppe wrote:
I am just throwing this out there, and i know i am not even capable of being a voice of reason, but here goes..


Is it possible that he and his family visited during actual feeding time and the gators were fed something appropriate (a chicken or something) and he thought it was fun to watch and didnt comprehend the fact that what was being eaten would no longer be alive?


Well he did bludgeon some of the other animals to death with stones.
It is kinda funny a seven year old was able to break into a zoo.
He might even be a lost cause but at 7 I couldn't feed him to the croc yet.


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