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 Post subject: Third Party Candidates (2008 Edition)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:02 am 
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Anyone going to admit to support for these folks? First name is the Presidential candidate, second is the VP candidate.

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Libertarian: Bob Barr, Wayne Root • http://www.lp.org

Constitution: Chuck Baldwin, Darrell Castle • http://www.constitutionparty.org

Green: Cynthia McKinney, Rosa Clemente • http://www.gp.org

Socialist Party USA: Brian Moore, Stewart Alexander • http://www.sp-usa.org

Socialism and Liberation: Gloria LaRiva, Eugene Puryear • http://www.pslweb.org

Boston Tea/ Personal Choice: Charles Jay, Tom Knapp • http://www.bostontea.us

Socialist Workers: Roger Calero, Alyson Kennedy • http://www.themilitant.com (not official party site, but reflects the party platform)

Prohibition: Gene Amondson, Leroy Pletten • http://www.prohibition.org

Independent: Ralph Nader, Matt Gonzalez • http://www.votenader.org

America's Independent: Alan Keyes, Wiley Drake • http://www.selfgovernment.us

Reform: Ted Weill, Frank McEnulty • http://www.reformpa.web.aplus.net

Source: http://www.indyweek.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid:266403

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 Post subject: Re: Third Party Candidates (2008 Edition)
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The Modern Whigs don't have a candidate this year, but they're coming in 2012 baby!
http://modernwhig.org/

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 Post subject: Re: Third Party Candidates (2008 Edition)
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Where is the candidate that's so third party he doesn't even have a party?

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Where is the candidate that's so third party he doesn't even have a party?

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Someone told me that Ron Paul threw his support behind Chuck Baldwin. Can we infer from this that he takes Bob Barr to be no more than an opportunist, or is something else going on here?


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 Post subject: Re: Third Party Candidates (2008 Edition)
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Checking out the wiki page for this Baldwin fellow, I don't think I can vote for him. He's a Baptist pastor and is more closely allied with the 9/11 truthers than Ron Paul. I don't know what to make of Paul's pro life stance, but its one of his few blemishes. Baldwin, it seems to be just one of several issues.

Write in candidates for the win?


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i'm a fan of those modern whigs on a lot of issues
but then again, on some others not so much.

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 Post subject: Re: Third Party Candidates (2008 Edition)
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You haven't provided nearly enough options.

http://www.votesmart.org/election_presi ... type=alpha

My favorite is this guy:
http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=15590

Although I may still throw my support behind the Free Soil Party.


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 Post subject: Re: Third Party Candidates (2008 Edition)
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Sigh...

One day we'll have a 3rd party candidate that isn't a total whack job.

Maybe one will emerge after the next 4 disastrous years.

To answer the question, Barr looks like my best bet.

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 Post subject: Re: Third Party Candidates (2008 Edition)
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simple schoolboy wrote:

Someone told me that Ron Paul threw his support behind Chuck Baldwin. Can we infer from this that he takes Bob Barr to be no more than an opportunist, or is something else going on here?


I believe he officially endorsed 4 different 3rd party candidates at the same time, including Barr.

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aprilfifth wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:

Someone told me that Ron Paul threw his support behind Chuck Baldwin. Can we infer from this that he takes Bob Barr to be no more than an opportunist, or is something else going on here?


I believe he officially endorsed 4 different 3rd party candidates at the same time, including Barr.


Ah, that clarifies things a bit. I presumed that he only endorsed one person. That would be too... conventional.


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 Post subject: Re: Third Party Candidates (2008 Edition)
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Actually, you were right. My news was a little older than yours.

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The congressman had reportedly invited presidential candidates Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, Cynthia McKinney, and Ralph Nader to the press conference, leading some to speculate that they would endorse Paul running for president on the ticket of either the Constitution, Libertarian or other third party.

On September 10, 2008, Paul confirmed his "open endorsement" (CNN) for the four candidates at a press conference in Washington D.C. He also revealed that he had rejected a personal request for an endorsement of John McCain. He later appeared on CNN's The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer with Nader where they presented and briefly laid out the four principles that all the independent candidates had agreed on as the most important key issues of the presidential race. On September 22, 2008, Paul abandoned his former neutral stance and announced his support of Chuck Baldwin in the 2008 presidential election.

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Was there any particular reason given for his ditching Barr?


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 Post subject: Re: Third Party Candidates (2008 Edition)
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Ron Paul wrote:
Although we were on the receiving end of ridicule in the reporting of the press conference, I personally was quite satisfied with the results. True revolutions are not won in a week, a month, or even a year. They take time. But we are making progress, and the momentum remains and is picking up. The Campaign for Liberty is alive and well, and its growth and influence will continue. Obviously the press conference could have been even more successful without the last-minute change of heart by the Libertarian Party candidate by not participating. He stated that his support for the four points remains firm. His real reason for not coming, nor letting me know until forty minutes before the press conference started, is unknown to me. To say the least, I was shocked and disappointed.

Yet in the long run, this last-minute change in plans will prove to be of little importance. I’m convinced that problems like this always seem bigger at the moment, yet things usually work out in the end. Recovering from the mistakes and shortcomings of all that we do in this effort is not difficult if the message is right and our efforts are determined. And I’m convinced they are. That’s what will determine our long-term success, not the shortcomings of any one person.

The Libertarian Party Candidate admonished me for “remaining neutral” in the presidential race and not stating whom I will vote for in November. It’s true; I have done exactly that due to my respect and friendship and support from both the Constitution and Libertarian Party members. I remain a lifetime member of the Libertarian Party and I’m a ten-term Republican Congressman. It is not against the law to participate in more then one political party. Chuck Baldwin has been a friend and was an active supporter in the presidential campaign.

I continue to wish the Libertarian and Constitution Parties well. The more votes they get, the better. I have attended Libertarian Party conventions frequently over the years.

In some states, one can be on the ballots of two parties, as they can in New York. This is good and attacks the monopoly control of politics by Republicans and Democrats. We need more states to permit this option. This will be a good project for the Campaign for Liberty, along with the alliance we are building to change the process.

I’ve thought about the unsolicited advice from the Libertarian Party candidate, and he has convinced me to reject my neutral stance in the November election. I’m supporting Chuck Baldwin, the Constitution Party candidate.



It does seem personal.

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 Post subject: Re: Third Party Candidates (2008 Edition)
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The Modern Whigs don't have a candidate this year, but they're coming in 2012 baby!
http://modernwhig.org/


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Ohio Chapter Chairman C. Ryan Kearney makes a living supporting corporate America by day and by night is the bass player for the critically acclaimed rock band, The Twilight.


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I heard The Twilight is doing an East Coast tour with Scrantonicity II next month.

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