Post subject: Racial Incidents and Threats Against Obama Soar- HuffPost
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:16 pm
Got Some
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Let's file this under, "WHATTHEFUCKISWRONGWITHPEOPLE??" Jesus Christ, can we just GIVE these racist assholes an island to themselves to do with as they see fit and leave the rest of us the fuck alone??
Since election day, the number of threats against the president-elect, and racial or violent incidents directed at his supporters, have soared. The Secret Service is concerned, calling it the highest number of threats against a President-elect in memory, but the national media until this weekend have largely ignored the disturbing pattern. So a few days ago, over at the Editor & Publisher site, we started chronicling the incidents, which has drawn wide attention (so we will continue, though we hope the problem subsides).
Some claim that, given the size of this great country of ours, the incidents don't amount to much or are merely anecdotal. I would argue: The ones we know about may represent only the tip of the iceberg -- the ones that make it into the local press. And, yes, they may die down as the country gets used to the idea of a President Obama. On the other hand: They could soar again as that reality nears.
So let me just briefly list the full range of episodes, which doesn't even include several cross burnings on front lawns. These aren't necessarily the worst but they do capture the national flavor/fever. Note that about 2 out of 3 took place in states that Obama won.
* In a Maine convenience store, an Associated Press reporter saw a sign inviting customers to join a betting pool on when Obama might fall victim to an assassin. The sign solicited $1 entries into "The Osama Obama Shotgun Pool," saying the money would go to the person picking the date closest to when Obama was attacked. "Let's hope we have a winner."
* In Idaho, the Secret Service is investigating a "public hanging" sign erected by a man upset with the election outcome, the Bonner County Daily Bee reported Thursday. A handmade sign posted on a tree reads "FREE PUBLIC HANGING" written in large letters beneath a noose fashioned from nylon rope. The most prominent name on the sign is "OBAMA," according to the Bee. "That's a political statement. They can call it whatever they want, a threat or whatever," the creator of the sign, Ken Germana, told the Bee.
* A popular white supremacist Web sites got more than 2,000 new members the day after the election, compared with 91 new members on Election Day. The site, stormfront.org, was temporarily off-line on Nov. 5 because of the overwhelming amount of activity it received. One poster, identified as Dalderian Germanicus, of North Las Vegas, said, "I want the SOB laid out in a box to see how 'messiahs' come to rest."
* From the Orange County (Ca.) Register: "Two gang members pleaded not guilty Thursday to hate crime and attempted robbery charges in connection with the beating of a black man who was trying to buy cigarettes at a Fullerton liquor store." The two men shouted racial and anti-Obama epithets in the attack.
* From today's New York Times: "Two white Staten Island men face hate crimes charges after they were arrested on Friday in the beating of a black teenager on the night that Barack Obama was elected president, the police said on Saturday. The teenager, Alie Kamara, 17, was walking home on Pine Place in the Staten Island neighborhood of Stapleton when several men hit him on the head with a baseball bat and yelled 'Obama,' said Aliya Latif, the civil rights director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, who was in contact with Alie's family since the attack and spoke to his mother on Saturday after the arrests were announced."
* In Mississippi alone, the American Civil Liberties Union has received more than 10 calls since the staff first reported anti-Obama incidents last Friday, according to the Jackson (Miss.) Free Press.
* In Midland, Mich., a man dressed in full Ku Klux Klan regalia walked around toting a handgun and waving an American flag. Initially denying it, the man eventually admitted to police that the display was a reaction to the Obama victory. "[The man] had a concealed weapon permit and was walking up and down the sidewalk in front of a vehicle dealership while some motorists shouted obscenities at him and others shouted accolades," police told The Saginaw News.
* Parents in Rexburg, Idaho, contacted school officials this week after they learned that 2nd and 3rd graders on a school bus were chanting, "Assasssinate Obama!"
* At the University of Texas in Austin, a racist post on Facebook has cost one student his place on the university football team, according to the Houston Chronicle. Buck Burnette, a sophomore offensive lineman for the fourth-ranked Texas Longhorns, was dismissed from the team on Nov. 5 after posting a racist remark about President-elect Obama as his "status" on the social networking Web site. Burnette posted: "All the hunters gather up, we have a [slur] in the White House," the Chronicle reported.
* AP reports: "While the world watched a Grant Park celebration heralding the election of the first black U.S. president, some white Chicago police officers committed hate crimes against black residents cheering Barack Obama's victory elsewhere in the city, attorneys alleged Thursday." Lawsuits have been filed.
* At Appalachian State University, the administration has expressed disappointment at the numerous times black students have expressed being harassed in residence halls since the election. The Appalachian, a student newspaper serving the university, also reported conversations suggesting Obama may not be alive in 2009 and a t-shirt seen around campus that reads "Obama '08, Biden '09."
* Mentioned in the same article, racist comments were discovered at North Carolina State University last week. Spray-painted in university's free expression tunnel after the election were the phrases, "Kill that n..." and "Shoot Obama," the Appalachian reported. The NAACP has called for the expulsion of the four students accused of the graffitti, the Associated Press reported Thursday.
* The Associated Press revealed on Wednesday, "Police on eastern Long Island are investigating reports that more than a dozen cars were spray painted with racist graffiti, reportedly including a message targeting President-elect Barack Obama. The graffiti included racist slurs and sexually graphic references. At least one resident in the quiet Mastic neighborhood told Newsday her son's car was scribbled with a message threatening to kill Obama."
* Employees at Hampel's Key and Lockshop in Traverse City, Michigan, flew an American flag upside down last Wednesday protesting of the new president-elect, the Traverse City Record-Eagle reported. One worker used a racial slur during an interview with the Record-Eagle: "(The inverted flag is) an international signal for distress and we feel our country is in distress because the n----- got in," said Hampel's employee Rod Nyland, who later apologized for the comment, according to the Record-Eagle.
* Authorities in Temecula, Calif., found spray-painted graffiti on a city sidewalk containing a swastika and anti-Obama slogan. And from the Los Angeles Times: "Vandals spray-painted swastikas and racial slurs on a house and several cars in Torrance that displayed campaign signs or bumper stickers for President-elect Barack Obama, authorities said Tuesday. The incidents occurred Saturday night in the Hollywood Riviera section of the city, said Sgt. Bernard Anderson. Four separate incidents were reported the next day, he said. No arrests have been made."
* And from Maine: "More than 75 people rallied Sunday against an incident last week in which black figures were hanged by nooses from trees on Mount Desert Island the day after Barack Obama won the presidential election," according to the Bangor Daily News.
Post subject: Re: Racial Incidents and Threats Against Obama Soar- HuffPost
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:43 pm
AnalLog
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honey wrote:
* At the University of Texas in Austin, a racist post on Facebook has cost one student his place on the university football team, according to the Houston Chronicle. Buck Burnette, a sophomore offensive lineman for the fourth-ranked Texas Longhorns, was dismissed from the team on Nov. 5 after posting a racist remark about President-elect Obama as his "status" on the social networking Web site. Burnette posted: "All the hunters gather up, we have a [slur] in the White House," the Chronicle reported.
I was really happy that Mack Brown kicked this guy off the team with very little hesitation. What an idiot.
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Post subject: Re: Racial Incidents and Threats Against Obama Soar- HuffPost
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:56 pm
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I stopped reading about halfway down.
These are all racial incidents, yes. But they are also clearly not actual threats against Obama and not really something we or the secret service should be worried about. I will begin to worry when I see actual assassination plots being broken up. This is no more than racists being racist.
Post subject: Re: Racial Incidents and Threats Against Obama Soar- HuffPost
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:12 pm
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About these here racists - what sort of censure is in order for run of the mill racist stupidity? There was an incident at my school recently and now folks are clamoring for 'something' to be done. The thing is, its a public university, so I don't know what regulations allow for these students to be expelled for displaying a confederate flag and racial slurs. This occured at on campus housing for crops science students, who receive free housing in exchange for maintaining the equipment and whatnot. They probably had no reasonable expectation that a person of color, or a homsexual, or a 'hippie' would see the offensive statements, considering the racial make-up of the Agricultural department. The students lost their on-campus housing, and nearly every edition of the school newspaper has been dedicated to this topic since. On what grounds would further punitive actions be taken?
Post subject: Re: Racial Incidents and Threats Against Obama Soar- HuffPost
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:41 pm
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Orpheus wrote:
honey wrote:
* At the University of Texas in Austin, a racist post on Facebook has cost one student his place on the university football team, according to the Houston Chronicle. Buck Burnette, a sophomore offensive lineman for the fourth-ranked Texas Longhorns, was dismissed from the team on Nov. 5 after posting a racist remark about President-elect Obama as his "status" on the social networking Web site. Burnette posted: "All the hunters gather up, we have a [slur] in the White House," the Chronicle reported.
I was really happy that Mack Brown kicked this guy off the team with very little hesitation. What an idiot.
me too especially considering that he plays college football, it's not like he doesn't know any black people. on top of the serious character defects involved, it would be almost impossible for his teammates to trust him after that, trust between teammates being fairly central in a game like football.
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Post subject: Re: Racial Incidents and Threats Against Obama Soar- HuffPost
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:10 pm
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Orpheus wrote:
honey wrote:
* At the University of Texas in Austin, a racist post on Facebook has cost one student his place on the university football team, according to the Houston Chronicle. Buck Burnette, a sophomore offensive lineman for the fourth-ranked Texas Longhorns, was dismissed from the team on Nov. 5 after posting a racist remark about President-elect Obama as his "status" on the social networking Web site. Burnette posted: "All the hunters gather up, we have a [slur] in the White House," the Chronicle reported.
I was really happy that Mack Brown kicked this guy off the team with very little hesitation. What an idiot.
was actually gonna post this, then i noticed it in the article.
Post subject: Re: Racial Incidents and Threats Against Obama Soar- HuffPost
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:17 pm
Reissued
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simple schoolboy wrote:
About these here racists - what sort of censure is in order for run of the mill racist stupidity? There was an incident at my school recently and now folks are clamoring for 'something' to be done. The thing is, its a public university, so I don't know what regulations allow for these students to be expelled for displaying a confederate flag and racial slurs. This occured at on campus housing for crops science students, who receive free housing in exchange for maintaining the equipment and whatnot. They probably had no reasonable expectation that a person of color, or a homsexual, or a 'hippie' would see the offensive statements, considering the racial make-up of the Agricultural department. The students lost their on-campus housing, and nearly every edition of the school newspaper has been dedicated to this topic since. On what grounds would further punitive actions be taken?
well they should lose their housing; you should have to meet certain standards of behavior to keep it; if they got arrested for underage possession of alcohol or possession of marijuana they'd be kicked out of free housing too wouldn't they? and i'd say this is far worse than either of those, and i'd bet the majority of university students and professors would agree
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Post subject: Re: Racial Incidents and Threats Against Obama Soar- HuffPost
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:51 pm
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honey wrote:
* Parents in Rexburg, Idaho, contacted school officials this week after they learned that 2nd and 3rd graders on a school bus were chanting, "Assasssinate Obama!"
This isn't racist.
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Post subject: Re: Racial Incidents and Threats Against Obama Soar- HuffPost
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:57 pm
Yeah Yeah Yeah
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punkdavid wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
wouldn't shedding light on this issue actually make it worse?
Shedding light on ugly things is almost always better, IMO.
it is to shame people who think that way but don't say anything. but it encourages the fuckheads that do act and speak out loud on it (because they crave publicity).
And though 99.9% of those idiots are not a real danger to anyone, there's still the .1% that might do damage, to Obama even, or anyway to some poor black kid that ends up in the wrong place at the wrong time.
All in all, I think ignoring the fuckwits that are trying to make a show of it is actually a better move...they'll get tired of it if they don't get any reaction.
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Post subject: Re: Racial Incidents and Threats Against Obama Soar- HuffPost
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:15 pm
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Sunny wrote:
honey wrote:
* Parents in Rexburg, Idaho, contacted school officials this week after they learned that 2nd and 3rd graders on a school bus were chanting, "Assasssinate Obama!"
This isn't racist.
Article title: Racist Incidents And Threats Against Obama Soar
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Post subject: Re: Racial Incidents and Threats Against Obama Soar- HuffPost
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:22 pm
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Pegasus wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
wouldn't shedding light on this issue actually make it worse?
Shedding light on ugly things is almost always better, IMO.
it is to shame people who think that way but don't say anything. but it encourages the fuckheads that do act and speak out loud on it (because they crave publicity).
And though 99.9% of those idiots are not a real danger to anyone, there's still the .1% that might do damage, to Obama even, or anyway to some poor black kid that ends up in the wrong place at the wrong time.
All in all, I think ignoring the fuckwits that are trying to make a show of it is actually a better move...they'll get tired of it if they don't get any reaction.
OK.
I disagree. I think that truth is like bleach, it kills germs. There should be a permanent record of people's asshattery.
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Post subject: Re: Racial Incidents and Threats Against Obama Soar- HuffPost
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:35 pm
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meatwad wrote:
Sunny wrote:
honey wrote:
* Parents in Rexburg, Idaho, contacted school officials this week after they learned that 2nd and 3rd graders on a school bus were chanting, "Assasssinate Obama!"
This isn't racist.
Article title: Racist Incidents And Threats Against Obama Soar
Also there is no way to know if it is or isn't racist. They could be saying what they're saying because he's black or for 100 other reasons.
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Post subject: Re: Racial Incidents and Threats Against Obama Soar- HuffPost
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:47 pm
Yeah Yeah Yeah
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Orpheus wrote:
meatwad wrote:
Sunny wrote:
honey wrote:
* Parents in Rexburg, Idaho, contacted school officials this week after they learned that 2nd and 3rd graders on a school bus were chanting, "Assassinate Obama!"
This isn't racist.
Article title: Racist Incidents And Threats Against Obama Soar
Also there is no way to know if it is or isn't racist. They could be saying what they're saying because he's black or for 100 other reasons.
how many schoolkids where shouting 'Assassinate Bush' do you think? How many would have been shouting 'Assassinate Clinton'? 'nuff said..
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Post subject: Re: Racial Incidents and Threats Against Obama Soar- HuffPost
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:49 pm
Yeah Yeah Yeah
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punkdavid wrote:
Pegasus wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
wouldn't shedding light on this issue actually make it worse?
Shedding light on ugly things is almost always better, IMO.
it is to shame people who think that way but don't say anything. but it encourages the fuckheads that do act and speak out loud on it (because they crave publicity).
And though 99.9% of those idiots are not a real danger to anyone, there's still the .1% that might do damage, to Obama even, or anyway to some poor black kid that ends up in the wrong place at the wrong time.
All in all, I think ignoring the fuckwits that are trying to make a show of it is actually a better move...they'll get tired of it if they don't get any reaction.
OK.
I disagree. I think that truth is like bleach, it kills germs. There should be a permanent record of people's asshattery.
I think it should be challenged on an individual level, totally! But I think that on the media level, it's counter-productive.
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