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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:17 am 
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i just found it on the web. it's not this bad, is it?

http://www.worldministries.org/prophecy ... -16-04.htm

Most believe Bible stories 'literally true'
Poll: 6 in 10 convinced of Red Sea parting, Noah's ark, creation
Posted: February 16, 2004

A new poll shows at least six in 10 Americans believe the Bible stories of the Red Sea parting, Noah's ark and a six-day creation are "literally true, meaning it happened that way word-for-word."

According to the ABC poll, 64 percent say the story of God's parting the Red Sea for the Israelites is true, 61 percent say the same about a literal six-day creation as chronicled in the book of Genesis, and 60 percent believe the details of Noah's ark and the Great Flood.

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it's an ABC News poll, apparently. can't find it.

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i've seen some history channel thing that says the red sea parting was actually possible scientifically. but aside from that, i don't think that's true, but that comes from someone living in a catholic town, so.

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Why is it so hard for you to accept how fucking stupid christians are? Are you actively trying to not believe it? It's hard to believe you had so much faith in people in the first place.

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Why is it so hard for you to accept how fucking stupid christians are? Are you actively trying to not believe it? It's hard to believe you had so much faith in people in the first place.

I don't think he has trouble accepting the intellect of Christians, I think it's more the staggering number of Americans that hold this view.
I know it was an ABC poll, but the link was worldministries.org. Maybe they picked only 3-5 year olds from the bible belt.

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I saw something yesterday about a British General who recognized a name of a area and looked it up in the Bible. He found the name and read the passages about how the Isrealits defeated the Philistiens at a certian pass in the mountains and used the same tactics at the same pass to defeat a German force in WW2. I found that pretty interesting. Some of the Bible is true...not the 6 days or Noah but the Red Sea thing could be true. I read something about the tides or something.


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I've seen the 60% figure referenced several times before. I'm surprised so many consider the Bible to completely literal but that a roughly equal amount also believe in a young Earth (less than 10,000 years) astounds me.

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They wouldn't admit to that if they had to look a person in the eyes and say, "Yes, I believe that the Red Sea very literally lifted up and formed two giant walls of water on either side of dry land." "Yes, I believe that a snake talked to Adam and Eve." "Yes, I believe that three dudes walked into a blazing furnace and sat there for hours w/o so much as their robes being singed."

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dscans wrote:
I know it was an ABC poll, but the link was worldministries.org. Maybe they picked only 3-5 year olds from the bible belt.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/200 ... 955-2061r/

An ABC News poll released Sunday found that 61 percent of Americans believe the account of creation in the Bible's book of Genesis is "literally true" rather than a story meant as a "lesson."

Sixty percent believe in the story of Noah's ark and a global flood, while 64 percent agree that Moses parted the Red Sea to save fleeing Jews from their Egyptian captors.

The poll, with a margin of error of 3 percentage points, was conducted Feb. 6 to 10 among 1,011 adults.

"These are surprising and reassuring figures -- a positive sign in a postmodern world that seemed bent on erasing faith from the public square in recent years," said the Rev. Charles Nalls of Christ the King, a Catholic-Anglican church in the District.

The poll found that 75 percent of Protestants believed in the story of creation, 79 percent in the Red Sea account and 73 percent in Noah and the ark.

Among evangelical Protestants, those figures were 87 percent, 91 percent and 87 percent, respectively. Among Catholics, they were 51 percent, 50 percent and 44 percent.

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reassuring to whom?

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Why is Noah's ark harder to believe than the Red Sea parting?

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dscans wrote:
reassuring to whom?


to southern white people, probably all that made up this poll. I take this with a grain of salt.

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B wrote:
Why is Noah's ark harder to believe than the Red Sea parting?


There are a couple theories that sound within the realm of possibility about how the Red Sea could have parted...they are probably wrong but I guess it's possible....and there is this:

http://74.125.45.132/search?q=cache:fm8 ... cd=7&gl=us

Noah's Arc is just impossible.


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Something like the flood described in the story of Noah clearly happened. Too many ancient societies have Great Flood myths for it to be a coincidence.

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pfffft.

space is fake.

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 Post subject: Re: is this fake?
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Those catholic vs. protestant numbers sound fishy to me. My guess is they want to publish something to would generate contraversy, like that fake letter from the Paris Mayor about her holiness Princess Kennedy, so they rushed out something without verifying it.

I ask 17 people I work with who attend church every sunday and none of them believed in Noah's Ark as literal truth. That's annecdotal, but those numbers are just to high to be real.

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bart d. wrote:
Something like the flood described in the story of Noah clearly happened. Too many ancient societies have Great Flood myths for it to be a coincidence.


I guess there are such things as dragons too since societies all over the globe have dragon myths. :D


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