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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -past.html

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's vitriolic attacks on the Jewish world hide an astonishing secret, evidence uncovered by The Daily Telegraph shows.

A photograph of the Iranian president holding up his identity card during elections in March 2008 clearly shows his family has Jewish roots.

A close-up of the document reveals he was previously known as Sabourjian – a Jewish name meaning cloth weaver.

The short note scrawled on the card suggests his family changed its name to Ahmadinejad when they converted to embrace Islam after his birth.

The Sabourjians traditionally hail from Aradan, Mr Ahmadinejad's birthplace, and the name derives from "weaver of the Sabour", the name for the Jewish Tallit shawl in Persia. The name is even on the list of reserved names for Iranian Jews compiled by Iran's Ministry of the Interior.

Experts last night suggested Mr Ahmadinejad's track record for hate-filled attacks on Jews could be an overcompensation to hide his past.

Ali Nourizadeh, of the Centre for Arab and Iranian Studies, said: "This aspect of Mr Ahmadinejad's background explains a lot about him.

"Every family that converts into a different religion takes a new identity by condemning their old faith.

"By making anti-Israeli statements he is trying to shed any suspicions about his Jewish connections. He feels vulnerable in a radical Shia society."

A London-based expert on Iranian Jewry said that "jian" ending to the name specifically showed the family had been practising Jews.

"He has changed his name for religious reasons, or at least his parents had," said the Iranian-born Jew living in London. "Sabourjian is well known Jewish name in Iran."


A spokesman for the Israeli embassy in London said it would not be drawn on Mr Ahmadinejad's background. "It's not something we'd talk about," said Ron Gidor, a spokesman.

The Iranian leader has not denied his name was changed when his family moved to Tehran in the 1950s. But he has never revealed what it was change from or directly addressed the reason for the switch.

Relatives have previously said a mixture of religious reasons and economic pressures forced his blacksmith father Ahmad to change when Mr Ahmadinejad was aged four.

The Iranian president grew up to be a qualified engineer with a doctorate in traffic management. He served in the Revolutionary Guards militia before going on to make his name in hardline politics in the capital.

During this year's presidential debate on television he was goaded to admit that his name had changed but he ignored the jibe.

However Mehdi Khazali, an internet blogger, who called for an investigation of Mr Ahmadinejad's roots was arrested this summer.

Mr Ahmadinejad has regularly levelled bitter criticism at Israel, questioned its right to exist and denied the Holocaust. British diplomats walked out of a UN meeting last month after the Iranian president denounced Israel's 'genocide, barbarism and racism.'

Benjamin Netanyahu made an impassioned denunciation of the Iranian leader at the same UN summit. "Yesterday, the man who calls the Holocaust a lie spoke from this podium," he said. "A mere six decades after the Holocaust, you give legitimacy to a man who denies the murder of six million Jews while promising to wipe out the State of Israel, the State of the Jews. What a disgrace. What a mockery of the charter of the United Nations."

Mr Ahmadinejad has been consistently outspoken about the Nazi attempt to wipe out the Jewish race. "They have created a myth today that they call the massacre of Jews and they consider it a principle above God, religions and the prophets," he declared at a conference on the holocaust staged in Tehran in 2006.

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 Post subject: Re: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the jew.
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This was debunked.

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This was debunked.

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bart d. wrote:
This was debunked.


Damn. Well, always good to obtain accurate info, could you provide me the link?

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Eh, I read it in the paper. Basically it all stemmed from one article in the Telegraph that claimed that because his original name ended in a certain way it meant he was Jewish, when in fact they got the translation of what the name meant totally wrong and his old name wasn't one that any Jews in Iran use.

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bart d. wrote:
Eh, I read it in the paper. Basically it all stemmed from one article in the Telegraph that claimed that because his original name ended in a certain way it meant he was Jewish, when in fact they got the translation of what the name meant totally wrong and his old name wasn't one that any Jews in Iran use.


Oh, ok, thanks.

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Funny, he doesn't look drewish.

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I demand to see his birth certificate.

Well played.

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first of all , them crazies don't hate jews they hate israel
there is a difference

secondly, in a strange twist , i don't think you can be muslim without being jewish

and lastly, according to the western monotheistic religions , aren't we alls from adam and eve?? so aren't we alls from jewish decent?

oh ..and there is no such thing
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jerome230 wrote:
first of all , them crazies don't hate jews they hate israel
there is a difference

secondly, in a strange twist , i don't think you can be muslim without being jewish

and lastly, according to the western monotheistic religions , aren't we alls from adam and eve?? so aren't we alls from jewish decent?

oh ..and there is no such thing
god is for idiots

You're wrong on every point.

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bart d. wrote:
jerome230 wrote:
first of all , them crazies don't hate jews they hate israel
there is a difference

secondly, in a strange twist , i don't think you can be muslim without being jewish

and lastly, according to the western monotheistic religions , aren't we alls from adam and eve?? so aren't we alls from jewish decent?

oh ..and there is no such thing
god is for idiots

You're wrong on every point.



not so much
what do you know about islam?


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jerome230 wrote:
bart d. wrote:
jerome230 wrote:
first of all , them crazies don't hate jews they hate israel
there is a difference

secondly, in a strange twist , i don't think you can be muslim without being jewish

and lastly, according to the western monotheistic religions , aren't we alls from adam and eve?? so aren't we alls from jewish decent?

oh ..and there is no such thing
god is for idiots

You're wrong on every point.



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what do you know about islam?

Well friend, I know that Islam is an Abrahamic religion. Do you know why they call Judiasim, Christianity and Islam "Abrahamic?" Because Abraham is the father of all three faiths. Adam and Eve were not Jews, and being descended from them has nothing to do with being Jewish. There was no such thing as Jews when they were around. Jews are supposedly the blood descendants of Abraham. Once Christians and Muslims came along, they claimed Abraham for themselves, and said that they were his spiritual descendants, while Jews had perverted the faith and were thus cursed to live as inferiors until the end of days, when they would finally see the light and convert.

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