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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:09 pm 
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Music Industry Gives Up on Suing Consumers, Will Pressure ISPs Instead
December 19, 2008

Following years of suing individuals for sharing music on peer-to-peer networks, the music industry has decided to try a new tactic.

They'll try to have your Internet service cut off, instead.

The Wall Street Journal reports that music biz trade group the RIAA will shift its anti-piracy strategy from individuals to ISPs:

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The [RIAA] said it plans to try an approach that relies on the cooperation of Internet-service providers. The trade group said it has hashed out preliminary agreements with major ISPs under which it will send an email to the provider when it finds a provider's customers making music available online for others to take.

Depending on the agreement, the ISP will either forward the note to customers, or alert customers that they appear to be uploading music illegally, and ask them to stop. If the customers continue the file-sharing, they will get one or two more emails, perhaps accompanied by slower service from the provider. Finally, the ISP may cut off their access altogether.


According to the WSJ, the RIAA has filed some 35,000 lawsuits against private citizens since 2002. Despite the shift in strategy, the organization says it plans to continue with those suits already in progess.



I don't really know if this is gonna work either. At least I'm hoping it doesn't.

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 Post subject: Re: Music Industry Gives Up on Suing Consumers
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2 reasons it won't:

1. Free WiFi in most major cities makes filesharing anonymous.

2. The companies identified as in bed with the RIAA will summarily lose costumers who feel that their ISP isn't guarding their privacy. It is not in the ISP's best interest to cooperate here.

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2 reasons it won't:

1. Free WiFi in most major cities makes filesharing anonymous.

2. The companies identified as in bed with the RIAA will summarily lose costumers who feel that their ISP isn't guarding their privacy. It is not in the ISP's best interest to cooperate here.


good reasons.
i thought along the same lines. would ISP providers risk losing customers? i dont think so.

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 Post subject: Re: Music Industry Gives Up on Suing Consumers
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i know very little on this topic. but if the ISP is bound by legal obligation to the RIAA (which i don't think it is, but wouldnt be surprised of the RIAA is pushing to get enacted), then it'll be out of the ISP providers hands, no?


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i would think the isps have the same responsibility as search engines, in that they won't get in trouble for users performing illegal actions on their servers, but will get in trouble if they don't comply once the illegal actions are found.

or something like that.

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CE-Oh no he didn't! Part XX - Warner Music CEO "fairly certain" his kids pirate music
by Ryan Block, posted Dec 4th 2006 at 7:13AM
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We're going to assume you're well versed with the RIAA, just about the most god-forsaken industry group that ever did roam the earth (much like its unofficial partner in crime, the MPAA); and more importantly for the purposes of this post, Warner Music, one of the four major labels, which all, incidentally, back the RIAA.
So what did Edgar Bronfman, CEO of Warner Music, have to say when questioned as to whether any of his seven kids pirate music?

"I'm fairly certain that they have, and I'm fairly certain that they've suffered the consequences."
WTF??

“I explained to them what I believe is right, that the principle is that stealing music is stealing music. Frankly, right is right and wrong is wrong, particularly when a parent is talking to a child. A bright line around moral responsibility is very important. I can assure you they no longer do that.”


Great, but what did he do to them?

“I think I’ll keep that within the family.”

Funny, we haven't heard about any inter-familial lawsuits involving Bronfman sr. v. Bronfman jr. concerning definitions in fair use and music piracy. In fact, given that he knows what pirates live in his house using his internet connection, it should only follow that he sue his children into eternal debt (not before having Warner Music shut off their household internet connection at the ISP level).

After all, what's good for the goose is good -- ah forget it. Every time we try to apply logic and reason to the executives behind the RIAA our brains do a zero divide.

You, Bronfman! Monday at four o'clock, after school. Be there, punk.

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CE-Oh no he didn't! Part XX - Warner Music CEO "fairly certain" his kids pirate music
by Ryan Block, posted Dec 4th 2006 at 7:13AM
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We're going to assume you're well versed with the RIAA, just about the most god-forsaken industry group that ever did roam the earth (much like its unofficial partner in crime, the MPAA); and more importantly for the purposes of this post, Warner Music, one of the four major labels, which all, incidentally, back the RIAA.
So what did Edgar Bronfman, CEO of Warner Music, have to say when questioned as to whether any of his seven kids pirate music?

"I'm fairly certain that they have, and I'm fairly certain that they've suffered the consequences."
WTF??

“I explained to them what I believe is right, that the principle is that stealing music is stealing music. Frankly, right is right and wrong is wrong, particularly when a parent is talking to a child. A bright line around moral responsibility is very important. I can assure you they no longer do that.”



Great, but what did he do to them?

“I think I’ll keep that within the family.”

Funny, we haven't heard about any inter-familial lawsuits involving Bronfman sr. v. Bronfman jr. concerning definitions in fair use and music piracy. In fact, given that he knows what pirates live in his house using his internet connection, it should only follow that he sue his children into eternal debt (not before having Warner Music shut off their household internet connection at the ISP level).

After all, what's good for the goose is good -- ah forget it. Every time we try to apply logic and reason to the executives behind the RIAA our brains do a zero divide.

You, Bronfman! Monday at four o'clock, after school. Be there, punk.



lol for real

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