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 Post subject: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:41 pm 
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It's beyond ridiculous now, you've changed every other aspect of your constitution, why is the gun still a reality in American life? it's disgusting, unnecessary and tragic on every level.

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Because it'd be impossible to get rid of them all? And because if someone wants to kills someone, they can easily find another way?

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Banning drugs has done such a bang-up job of eliminating addiction...

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People want to take drugs, thats different. Nobody wants to get shot or their family to get shot, so it's a different argument. Drugs are a subliminal background control method. Guns are just fuckin ridiculous. Take them out now

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People want to take drugs, thats different. Nobody wants to get shot or their family to get shot, so it's a different argument.

no, it's not.

making something illegal doesn't address the fundamental issue of why someone uses drugs or possesses guns. drugs and guns are both means, not ends. government edict won't end violent crime. it may curtail violent gun crime, but the notion that it will meaningfully reduce crime at all is naive at best.

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People want to take drugs, thats different. Nobody wants to get shot or their family to get shot, so it's a different argument.

no, it's not.

making something illegal doesn't address the fundamental issue of why someone uses drugs or possesses guns. drugs and guns are both means, not ends. government edict won't end violent crime. it may curtail violent gun crime, but the notion that it will meaningfully reduce crime at all is naive at best.


Even that notion is naive. ;)

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im pretty sure banning guns isnt gonna stop whackos from being whackos

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Even that notion is naive. ;)


and the sacred right to bear arms isnt???

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warehouse wrote:
im pretty sure banning guns isnt gonna stop whackos from being whackos



of course, but at least make a start on it! you can walk into a store and buy them! it's ludicrous!

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warehouse wrote:
im pretty sure banning guns isnt gonna stop whackos from being whackos



of course, but at least make a start on it! you can walk into a store and but them! it's ludicrous!

a question:

if we ban all guns, will that in any way reduce criminals' inclination to commit crime? will it in any way address the root causes of crime?

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warehouse wrote:
im pretty sure banning guns isnt gonna stop whackos from being whackos



of course, but at least make a start on it! you can walk into a store and but them! it's ludicrous!
Has banning drugs prevented people who want drugs from obtaining drugs?


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dimejinky99 wrote:
warehouse wrote:
im pretty sure banning guns isnt gonna stop whackos from being whackos



of course, but at least make a start on it! you can walk into a store and but them! it's ludicrous!
Has banning drugs prevented people who want drugs from obtaining drugs?

no, not even close

at least thats what i heard

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it's not a cause, it's a symptom, but a really horrible unwanted one..every country has crime, but only America treasures the right to bear arms. I'm just wondering why? whats that right for? why is it necessary? As a nation, America's not even adolesent and thats evident in this constitutional right, but really, can't it be taken out of business and move on and away from this kinda carry on??
that news was shocking to see, about the Mom i mean..but when it's from the US, you dont blink even? it's :roll: like, 'when will they learn?'

but what's the point of having them? it's pointless!

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Has banning drugs prevented people who want drugs from obtaining drugs?

Stupid argument. OF COUSE people want drugs, they dont want guns though..not even in the same realm at all of those who want drugs...

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A typical dimejinky99 argument: reactionary, emotional, and pretty much devoid of rational thought. There's no news or debate here.

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dimejinky99 wrote:
it's not a cause, it's a symptom, but a really horrible unwanted one..every country has crime, but only America treasures the right to bear arms. I'm just wondering why? whats that right for? why is it necessary? As a nation, America's not even adolesent and thats evident in this constitutional right, but really, can't it be taken out of business and move on and away from this kinda carry on??
that news was shocking to see, about the Mom i mean..but when it's from the US, you dont blink even? it's :roll: like, 'when will they learn?'

but what's the point of having them? it's pointless!

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Has banning drugs prevented people who want drugs from obtaining drugs?

Stupid argument. OF COUSE people want drugs, they dont want guns though..not even in the same realm at all of those who want drugs...

im pretty sure gun owners want guns

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dimejinky99 wrote:
warehouse wrote:
im pretty sure banning guns isnt gonna stop whackos from being whackos



of course, but at least make a start on it! you can walk into a store and buy them! it's ludicrous!

you ever hear of the black market? stopping people from walking into a walmart and buying a guy won't stop people from buying them period. sure, it would reduce gun fatalities, but it wouldnt end all gun violence. people will always find a way to get their hands on one if they are "connected". also, like others have said, if people really want to kill someone, they will find a way

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sorry..buffalohead... thanks for your 'input'..i'm just asking why is it necessary??
i get you don't have the faculties to answer, or the wherewithall to understand the question even, but it wasn't an insulting question, and I get why you interpreted it that way..i'm just asking why can't they be taken out?
step off if you can't offer some insight and only want to start insulting people.

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PMA- thanks, at least that approaches an answer to my question. But just cos people might want a gun, doesnt mean theyll go get one and carry out whatever it is. It's undeniable, the availability of weaponry in the US today aided that woman in shooting her son. Was she right? so with that in mind, what you're saying is, wackjobs right to buy guns should be enshrined and protected and shouldn't be taken away from them? I hope not.

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Has banning drugs prevented people who want drugs from obtaining drugs?

Stupid argument. OF COUSE people want drugs, they dont want guns though..not even in the same realm at all of those who want drugs...
People want guns that's why they buy them. They just don't want the associated gun crime. Much like people want drugs, they just don't want the associated addictions and overdoses.

While I may not agree with you that banning guns or at least limiting access to guns will do any good in the short term, in the long term making the import and manufacturing of guns may make an impact in the long term. To me this is the big difference between guns and drugs. The manufacturing of guns is easier to control than the manufacturing of drugs.

But in the short term making guns illegal doesn't make a bit of difference to someone intent on criminal activity.


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warehouse, thanks for your 'input'..i'm just asking why is it necessary??
i get you don't have the faculties to answer, or the wherewithall to understand the question even, but it wasn't an insulting question, and I get why you interpreted it that way..i'm just asking why can't they be taken out?
step off if you can't offer some insight and oly want to start insulting people.

ok ill stop being an ass

i have friends who hunt. they are completely responsible with their guns and only use them to hunt.

a buddy of mine has a 1 year old and lives with his mother in law. he bought a gun for protection. its in a safe in his room and i'm pretty sure the only time he's shot it is at a shooting range.

are you gonna tell me my friends dont have a right to own guns b/c some whacko lady killed her son? and these examples are just from the world of warehouse.

i'm kinda conflicted on regulating guns though. philly has been trying to pass gun laws but have had problems from the state gov't. the people in central PA who hunt don't want more restritictions on guns, which is understandable. at the same time, people in philly are seeing shootings everyday and think the city should have a right to pass stronger gun laws, which is also understandable. but the city doesnt have the authority to do so.either way i dont think getting rid of guns would do any good.

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