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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:47 pm 
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LittleWing wrote:
Yeah, there's nothing more amusing than people who know absolutely nothing about guns, trying to figure out ways to limit their use.


People know that a person using a gun can kill more people in a short amount of time than say if someone was to run into a school with a knife. I really wish gun enthusiasts would show more understanding of the concerns of folks that don't own guns - then maybe we can all work together to limit these horrible events.

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2. Increase mental illness reporting. After the horrible shooting at Virginia Tech, the state changed the structure of reporting mentally ill patients to the gun registry, including those who seek outpatient mental health services instead of just those who have been committed. Just four years out from when the law was passed, the number of mentally ill people who are blocked from obtaining a firearm in Virginia doubled. Other states haven’t been so vigilant. In fact, many states are incredibly slow to report even those mentally ill people who check in for inpatient services.


What constitutes mental illness? PTSD? Something in the autism spectrum? ADHD? Better yet, what constitutes good enough mental health to own an AR-15? (Neurodiversity/Human Biodiversity is about as third rail in American politics and social policy as we can get.)

Rather than requiring passive reporting, why not use active? Make a psych evaluation a requirement before purchasing a gun and there will be less gray area to deal with.

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What constitutes mental illness? PTSD?


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Something in the autism spectrum?


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ADHD?


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Sex with furniture?


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Hentai tentacle rape?


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Rather than requiring passive reporting, why not use active? Make a psych evaluation a requirement before purchasing a gun and there will be less gray area to deal with.


I'm down with this.


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LittleWing wrote:
Yeah, there's nothing more amusing than people who know absolutely nothing about guns, trying to figure out ways to limit their use.

So, if I go I'm experiencing some PTSD from a death in the family, or some traumatic incident I saw and seek help, I can no longer get a gun in Virginia? Awesome.


In your particular case, I'd be more concerned about the VA reporting you as mentally unfit. They have streamlined the process and send that information straight to the DOJ.


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px wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
Yeah, there's nothing more amusing than people who know absolutely nothing about guns, trying to figure out ways to limit their use.


People know that a person using a gun can kill more people in a short amount of time than say if someone was to run into a school with a knife. I really wish gun enthusiasts would show more understanding of the concerns of folks that don't own guns - then maybe we can all work together to limit these horrible events.


don't worry PX. you can just feel similarly amused listening to people who know nothing about politics sharing their wisdom with you.

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px wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
Yeah, there's nothing more amusing than people who know absolutely nothing about guns, trying to figure out ways to limit their use.


People know that a person using a gun can kill more people in a short amount of time than say if someone was to run into a school with a knife. I really wish gun enthusiasts would show more understanding of the concerns of folks that don't own guns - then maybe we can all work together to limit these horrible events.


don't worry PX. you can just feel similarly amused listening to people who know nothing about politics sharing their wisdom with you.


It's not really all that amusing, but really more annoying and makes me weep for humanity.

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LittleWing wrote:
Yeah, there's nothing more amusing than people who know absolutely nothing about guns, trying to figure out ways to limit their use.

So, if I go I'm experiencing some PTSD from a death in the family, or some traumatic incident I saw and seek help, I can no longer get a gun in Virginia? Awesome.

tell us all about guns


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Spike wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
Yeah, there's nothing more amusing than people who know absolutely nothing about guns, trying to figure out ways to limit their use.

So, if I go I'm experiencing some PTSD from a death in the family, or some traumatic incident I saw and seek help, I can no longer get a gun in Virginia? Awesome.

tell us all about guns

spike, i don't think we need LW anymore. nah is back.

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LittleWing wrote:
Yeah, there's nothing more amusing than people who know absolutely nothing about guns, trying to figure out ways to limit their use.

So, if I go I'm experiencing some PTSD from a death in the family, or some traumatic incident I saw and seek help, I can no longer get a gun in Virginia? Awesome.

tell us all about guns

spike, i don't think we need LW anymore. nah is back.

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I'm guessing about half the copy desk was fired for this.

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I'm guessing about half the copy desk was fired for this.

newspapers still have copy desks?

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I'm guessing about half the copy desk was fired for this.

newspapers still have copy desks?

Yes, just smaller/cheaper ones.

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Guns and capitalism are evil? Add in religion and you've got the trifecta. Where's ceebs when you need him.


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To be fair, this would pretty easy to do if you didn't have time to proof the page. There are a bunch of pagination programs where you never actually see ads. And the ad could have been booked days/weeks in advance. The copy editor/designer could have just seen a number. Still, I would guess someone got fired.

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