"This is someone who has fallen into the category of fomenting hatred, of such extreme views and expressing them in such a way that it is actually likely to cause inter-community tension or even violence if that person were allowed into the country"
I know this guy is a asshole, but WTF did he say to cause this?
Post subject: Re: UK Ban: Mike Savage "causes inter-community tension"
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 12:08 pm
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I saw that Jacqui Smith has published a list of 'undesirables' who are not to be let into the country. Most of them are common sense, radical islamic preachers and such, but I honestly have no idea who this guy even is let alone why they've banned him from the UK.
Post subject: Re: UK Ban: Mike Savage "causes inter-community tension"
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 1:23 pm
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is that the guy whose group of anti-gay nutters are picketing soldier's funerals (any soldiers, not just gay ones.. they thing the war is god punishment for gay or something nuts like that)?
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Post subject: Re: UK Ban: Mike Savage "causes inter-community tension"
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 1:27 pm
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Pegasus wrote:
is that the guy whose group of anti-gay nutters are picketing soldier's funerals (any soldiers, not just gay ones.. they thing the war is god punishment for gay or something nuts like that)?
That's Fred Phelps. U.K. banned that bastard, too.
Post subject: Re: UK Ban: Mike Savage "causes inter-community tension"
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:05 pm
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Anon wrote:
Pegasus wrote:
is that the guy whose group of anti-gay nutters are picketing soldier's funerals (any soldiers, not just gay ones.. they thing the war is god punishment for gay or something nuts like that)?
That's Fred Phelps. U.K. banned that bastard, too.
Post subject: Re: UK Ban: Mike Savage "causes inter-community tension"
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:31 pm
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spaggy boy wrote:
Sorry but can someone enlighten me as who this bloke actually is? Is he just another right-wing nutter like Hannity?
yeah, but less smarmy and much more reactionary. hannity is the preening, sanitized, family-friendly version of neoconservative dementia. savage is an incendiary and vulgar perversion of neoconservative dementia.
hannity is to lee greenwood as savage is to ted nugent.
Post subject: Re: UK Ban: Mike Savage "causes inter-community tension"
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:41 pm
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thodoks wrote:
spaggy boy wrote:
Sorry but can someone enlighten me as who this bloke actually is? Is he just another right-wing nutter like Hannity?
yeah, but less smarmy and much more reactionary. hannity is the preening, sanitized, family-friendly version of neoconservative dementia. savage is an incendiary and vulgar perversion of neoconservative dementia.
hannity is to lee greenwood as savage is to ted nugent.
Ok, thanks. But is he THAT offensive that he needs to be banned from our fair shores? Or is it a typical New Labour nanny state effort?
Post subject: Re: UK Ban: Mike Savage "causes inter-community tension"
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:46 pm
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spaggy boy wrote:
thodoks wrote:
spaggy boy wrote:
Sorry but can someone enlighten me as who this bloke actually is? Is he just another right-wing nutter like Hannity?
yeah, but less smarmy and much more reactionary. hannity is the preening, sanitized, family-friendly version of neoconservative dementia. savage is an incendiary and vulgar perversion of neoconservative dementia.
hannity is to lee greenwood as savage is to ted nugent.
Ok, thanks. But is he THAT offensive that he needs to be banned from our fair shores? Or is it a typical New Labour nanny state effort?
if you're asking me, i would say that no one deserves to be banned from a country for simply speaking their mind (no matter how screwy said mind may be). but i abhor both political correctness and gov't supression in general, so i may not be the one to ask.
Post subject: Re: UK Ban: Mike Savage "causes inter-community tension"
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:19 pm
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i have a problem with the banning people from entering a country based on their ideas, but he is a complete douche. i don't think he deserves to be banned for the same reason as thodoks.
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Post subject: Re: UK Ban: Mike Savage "causes inter-community tension"
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:37 am
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The US bans people similarly. As one of the British muslim groups pointed out, if these people really are dangerous, they can be arrested and deported on the grounds of inciting violence, which is already against the law. Did we really have to keep Yusuf Islam out?
Post subject: Re: UK Ban: Mike Savage "causes inter-community tension"
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:52 pm
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Anyone got any quotes from him?
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Post subject: Re: UK Ban: Mike Savage "causes inter-community tension"
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 10:43 pm
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So same sex couples are "raping of our minds and our children"? I think it's him that should be sued for defamation. Poor old fella being put on the same list as murderers well at least he wasn't called them, but calling people a nonce? Why don't he fuck off to the lane, the toilet or the bridge, or better still bar him from this country.
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