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 Post subject: God fools Norwegian with "evolutionary" missing link.
PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:35 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: God fools Norwegian with "evolutionary" missing link.
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The Drudge Report reader comments on that one are seriously top shelf. Some of the funniest yet.

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 Post subject: Re: God fools Norwegian with "evolutionary" missing link.
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Researchers say proof of this transitional species finally confirms Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.


what?

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 Post subject: Re: God fools Norwegian with "evolutionary" missing link.
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by the way, it's the devil, not god, who is fooling us with all these fossils and whatnot.

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 Post subject: Re: God fools Norwegian with "evolutionary" missing link.
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Now back to reality: Science has always been proven wrong and history has proven this to be true. Although Darwin may be close, there will never and I mean NEVER be a link of evolution of man from apes. We have a far more pure purpose. Think about it.


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Evolution is as fallacious as philosophy. Scientists are just as bankrupt in their search for the truth as this man was.


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this is an effort to disprove God and his act of creation. Why waste so much energy. If you don't want to believe, don't believe.


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 Post subject: Re: God fools Norwegian with "evolutionary" missing link.
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better story on this:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124235632936122739.html

Fossil Discovery Is Heralded

In what could prove to be a landmark discovery, a leading paleontologist said scientists have dug up the 47 million-year-old fossil of an ancient primate whose features suggest it could be the common ancestor of all later monkeys, apes and humans.

Anthropologists have long believed that humans evolved from ancient ape-like ancestors. Some 50 million years ago, two ape-like groups walked the Earth. One is known as the tarsidae, a precursor of the tarsier, a tiny, large-eyed creature that lives in Asia. Another group is known as the adapidae, a precursor of today's lemurs in Madagascar.

Based on previously limited fossil evidence, one big debate had been whether the tarsidae or adapidae group gave rise to monkeys, apes and humans. The latest discovery bolsters the less common position that our ancient ape-like ancestor was an adapid, the believed precursor of lemurs.


Philip Gingerich, president-elect of the Paleontological Society in the U.S., has co-written a paper that will detail next week the latest fossil discovery in Public Library of Science, a peer-reviewed, online journal.

"This discovery brings a forgotten group into focus as a possible ancestor of higher primates," Mr. Gingerich, a professor of paleontology at the University of Michigan, said in an interview.

The discovery has little bearing on a separate paleontological debate centering on the identity of a common ancestor of chimps and humans, which could have lived about six million years ago and still hasn't been found. That gap in the evolution story is colloquially referred to as the "missing link" controversy. In reality, though, all gaps in the fossil record are technically "missing links" until filled in, and many scientists say the term is meaningless.

Nonetheless, the latest fossil find is likely to ignite further the debate between evolutionists who draw conclusions based on a limited fossil record, and creationists who don't believe that humans, monkeys and apes evolved from a common ancestor.

Scientists won't necessarily agree about the details either. "Lemur advocates will be delighted, but tarsier advocates will be underwhelmed" by the new evidence, says Tim White, a paleontologist at the University of California, Berkeley. "The debate will persist."


The skeleton will be unveiled at New York City's American Museum of Natural History next Tuesday by Mayor Michael Bloomberg and an international team involved in the discovery.

According to Prof. Gingerich, the fossilized remains are of a young female adapid. The skeleton was unearthed by collectors about two years ago and has been kept tightly under wraps since then, in an unusual feat of scientific secrecy.

Prof. Gingerich said he had twice examined the adapid skeleton, which was "a complete, spectacular fossil." The completeness of the preserved skeleton is crucial, because most previously found fossils of ancient primates were small finds, such as teeth and jawbones.

It was found in the Messel Shale Pit, a disused quarry near Frankfurt, Germany. The pit has long been a World Heritage Site and is the source of a number of well-preserved fossils from the middle Eocene epoch, some 50 million years ago.

Prof. Gingerich said several scientists, including Jorn Hurum of Norway's National History Museum, had inspected the fossil with computer tomography scanning, a sophisticated X-ray technique that can provide detailed, cross-sectional views. Dr. Hurum declined to comment.

Although the creature looks like a lemur, there are some distinctive physical differences. Lemurs have a tooth comb (a tooth modified to help groom fur); a grooming claw; and a wet nose. Dr. Gingerich said that the adapid skeleton has neither a grooming claw nor a tooth comb. "We can't say whether it had a wet nose or not," he noted.

Since the fossilized creature found in Germany didn't have features like a tooth comb or grooming claw, it could be argued that it gave rise to monkeys, apes and humans, which don't have these features either.

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 Post subject: Re: God fools Norwegian with "evolutionary" missing link.
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Now back to reality: Science has always been proven wrong and history has proven this to be true. Although Darwin may be close, there will never and I mean NEVER be a link of evolution of man from apes. We have a far more pure purpose. Think about it.


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Evolution is as fallacious as philosophy. Scientists are just as bankrupt in their search for the truth as this man was.


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this is an effort to disprove God and his act of creation. Why waste so much energy. If you don't want to believe, don't believe.


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I pray many will not be deceived by this "finding". Only God knows all the answers, but for me and my house, we will serve only the Lord God Almighty.

James, you are in our prayers.

this is some good stuff

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"We can't say whether it had a wet nose or not," he noted.


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"We can't say whether it had a wet nose or not," he noted.


orly

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 Post subject: Re: God fools Norwegian with "evolutionary" missing link.
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i hate this fucking articles that put god on the heading of a science piece. the god particle, the god part of the brain, god's fuckin with evolution.

fucking cocksuckers. anything to stir shit up and make a buck.

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 Post subject: Re: God fools Norwegian with "evolutionary" missing link.
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i hate this fucking articles that put god on the heading of a science piece. the god particle, the god part of the brain, god's fuckin with evolution.

fucking cocksuckers. anything to stir shit up and make a buck.


It pisses me off when our popular science magazines here have the "The Real Jesus" cover for the enesimal time.

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 Post subject: Re: God fools Norwegian with "evolutionary" missing link.
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"Missing link" is pretty disingenuous, too. Evolution is not linear.

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 Post subject: Re: God fools Norwegian with "evolutionary" missing link.
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If God exists, then evolution is the most likely mode of generating human beings. Try patiently explaining that the Universe itself started out as a speck and then evolved into complex designs far dwarfing the complexity of comparitively miniscule life on Earth, and be sure to note that every living thing from a bacteria to a human being goes through an identical process of growth. Even the most stout and stubborn assed Evangelical will state that the Bible was a progressive revelation - it took time.

Tell them that in every single case imaginable apart from their views of Intelligent Design, God started small then got big. ID sticks out like a sore thumb as the single, lonely exception to the simplicity rule, and that's pretty fucking embarrassing in my opinion. If they whine about Genesis 1 and 2 being literal, ask them whether Moses would understand the visions God gave him to write. No, he didn't; he probably had a hard enough time just shitting out all the manna he ate. If God inspired men to write, men still wrote the son of a bitch and even if God could have stuck in an index to Genesis with Big Bang physics and an advance publisher's copy of Origin of the Species, He wouldn't have done it, since it would have confused the fresh-outta-slavery Jews to the point where they'd just say "fuck all of it," Ten Commandments and all.


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