Post subject: MINNESOTA! Franken vs. Ventura vs. Coleman
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:00 pm
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Ventura said he is motivated to run because of his opposition to the Iraq War.
"That’s the reason I run, not to sell books," he told NPR in a suburban St. Paul parking lot. "I run because it angers me."
Ventura also noted in the interview that he had defeated Coleman before, in the three-way 1998 gubernatorial race, and vowed to do so again.
"And all you Minnesotans take a good hard look at all three of us ad you decide if you were in a dark alley, which one of the three of us would you want with you?" Ventura said.
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Post subject: Re: MINNESOTA! Franken vs. Ventura vs. Coleman
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:55 pm
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WTF? Franken can draw a perfect map of the US from memory!
I'd love to see this on YouTube.
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Post subject: Re: MINNESOTA! Franken vs. Ventura vs. Coleman
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:24 pm
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thegreatdestroyer wrote:
More importantly, can he body slam anyone? I suspect not.
Advantage: Ventura!
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Post subject: Re: MINNESOTA! Franken vs. Ventura vs. Coleman
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:10 pm
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I had read somewhere that he could do that, but it is about 1000X more impressive to actually see the finished product than it is to just hear that he can do it. I wish I lived in MN so I could vote for him.
Did anybody see Ventura on the Colbert Report a while back? He came off as a nutjob. I also heard him on Opie & Anthony some time ago, too, and he was trying to put forward the idea that the 9/11 attacks were a big government conspiracy. I think his last marble has been lost.
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cue legal action over the absentee/provisional ballots..
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Franken Camp Claims Race Still Narrowing, Accuses Coleman Of Recount Shenanigans By Eric Kleefeld - November 24, 2008, 5:19PM
Is Al Franken actually gaining on Norm Coleman from the recount? That's what the Franken campaign just argued in a reporters' briefing -- and they accuse the Coleman campaign of gaming the system to cover it up.
The public numbers from the Star Tribune show Coleman's lead expanding, but the Franken camp says those numbers don't do justice to the real story. They say the Coleman camp is launching frivolous challenges of recounted ballots that ought go to Franken, taking them out of the count for now until the state canvassing board gets a look at them.
"It allows the Coleman campaign to keep an artificially-high margin in the recount, simply by issuing more challenges," said lead Franken recount lawyer Marc Elias.
The Franken campaign thinks it has an idea of what the numbers will eventually look like based on the opinions of the election workers at the individual sites where the challenges are made -- as opposed to the current status quo of a challenged ballot being taken out of the total entirely, pending review by the canvass board.
"The margin remains in double digits," Elias said. "In fact, the margin has narrowed since we were last together on Friday."
At any rate, this race won't be settled until mid-December at the earliest, assuming there isn't any further litigation after the canvassing board is done. So it's only going to get worse before it gets better.
What Norm Coleman is attempting to do here is not dissimilar to what Bush did in Florida in 2000. You do everything you can to stop the recount, or challenge ballots for any and all reasons, thereby making the "official recount total" show you with a lead. Then any attempts by Franken to get the challenged ballots counted are painted as "suing to overturn the election results".
This is an example of the kind of ballots that Coleman is challenging. Seriously.
This site has a bunch of pictures of challenged ballots.
Post subject: Re: MINNESOTA! Franken vs. Ventura vs. Coleman
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:23 pm
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thodoks wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
This is an example of the kind of ballots that Coleman is challenging. Seriously.
This site has a bunch of pictures of challenged ballots.
from looking at some of those, it doesn't appear as though franken has a monopoly on rectitude.
sad (though not unexpected) to see what politics has become.
Quite frankly, I don't really have a big problem with any of the ballots on that page being challenged. The offensive challenges are the ones that Coleman is challenging because a McCain voter either voted for Franken, or even worse, voted for no one in the Senate race.
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Post subject: Re: MINNESOTA! Franken vs. Ventura vs. Coleman
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:31 pm
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People do some stupid shit w/ their ballots.
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Post subject: Re: MINNESOTA! Franken vs. Ventura vs. Coleman
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:00 pm
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The Star Trib has nearly 600 examples of real challenged ballots on their website now. Nate Silver estimates that around 10% of the challenges (on both sides) are non-frivolous.
Post subject: Re: MINNESOTA! Franken vs. Ventura vs. Coleman
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:34 pm
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punkdavid wrote:
The Star Trib has nearly 600 examples of real challenged ballots on their website now. Nate Silver estimates that around 10% of the challenges (on both sides) are non-frivolous.
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