Post subject: 36 states expect to face water shortages within 5 years
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:55 pm
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Drought parches much of the U.S., may get worse
By John Blake CNN
(CNN) -- Marjorye Heeney knew something was wrong when she saw a bulging cloud of black dust darken the sky. Drought-like conditions dried this Kern River bed last year near Bakersfield, California.
She then heard an eerie, train-like whistle as fierce winds rattled her front door and windows. When she looked outside, hordes of grasshoppers and crows swarmed over her father's barren farm. After the storm broke, her father walked outside and muttered curses as he scanned the horizon for rain clouds.
"I can remember my dad just watching the sky so closely," Heeney says. "A sprinkle would excite him so much."
That's how Heeney, now 83, describes growing up on an Oklahoma farm during the Dust Bowl storms in the 1930s. For much of that decade, "black blizzards" -- formed by a prolonged drought and poor farming techniques -- ravaged much of the nation.
Now a new generation of Americans is again anxiously looking to the sky. Drought has returned to the United States, and some warn that more tough days are ahead.
Receding water left this bathtub-like ring on the rock walls of Lake Powell on the Utah-Arizona border.
The value of water is starting to become apparent in America. Over the past three years a drought has affected large swaths of the country, and conflicts over water usage may become commonplace in the future, climatologists say.
"Our focus is oil, but the critical need for water is going to make water the most significant natural resource that we're going to have to worry about in the future," says Larry Fillmer, executive director of the Natural Resources Management & Development Institute at Auburn University in Alabama.
At least 36 states expect to face water shortages within the next five years, according to a report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office. According to the National Drought Mitigation Center, several regions in particular have been hit hard: the Southeast, Southwest and the West. Texas, Georgia and South Carolina have suffered the worst droughts this year, the agency said.
Yet most people don't need a federal agency to tell them there's a water shortage. Plenty of cities have implemented water bans while state squabbles over water usage are common in some regions. What may surprise people, though, are the causes for the recent drought.
It's not global warming, some climatologists say. The droughts are caused by rapid population growth and unwise agricultural choices.
John R. Christy, a professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, says the last three years have been drier than usual in many parts of the United States, but overall there's been no shortage of rainfall. He says the U.S. mainland experienced worse droughts in the 12th and 16th centuries.
"The demand for water has gone up," Christy says. "The demand has skyrocketed in places like California and New Mexico because they've tried to grow crops in deserts."
Even drought conditions in the Southeast can't be blamed on a shortage of rainfall, Christy says. The region's water delivery systems can't keep pace with the growth, he says.
"The rain is still falling, but you're out of water because the storage facilities are not big enough," Christy says.
There's also a public perception that ordinary people are wasting more water, but that's not true, says Mark Svoboda, a climatologist with the National Drought Mitigation Center.
"Per capita use of water is down because we're learning to be more efficient," Svoboda says.
Water shortages don't have to remain a fact of modern life, drought experts say. Many offer the same solutions: Build better water delivery systems to accommodate population growth, develop more efficient uses of irrigation, and shift agriculture from the West to the East where it's easier and cheaper to water crops.
Svoboda believes a change in attitude is even more vital than changing habits.
"We take water for granted," he says. "We think it's a cheap commodity that's always going to be there."
Heeney, the Dust Bowl survivor, doesn't appear to need that lesson. She remembers how precious water was in the 1930s when people fetched water in buckets. And when the rains finally ended the Dust Bowl, she vividly remembers her joyous father driving his family out into his fields just to watch the water settle into the soil.
Heeney, who now lives in Topeka, Kansas, gets upset when she sees people throw away bottled water or use too much water to wash their cars.
"We don't value water and we're going to regret it," Heeney says. "We forget. We're as dumb as we can be and we don't learn."
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Post subject: Re: 36 states expect to face water shortages within 5 years
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:24 pm
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$úñ_DëV|L wrote:
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"We don't value water and we're going to regret it," Heeney says. "We forget. We're as dumb as we can be and we don't learn."
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"Per capita use of water is down because we're learning to be more efficient," Svoboda says.
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The droughts are caused by rapid population growth and unwise agricultural choices.
Don't have to be a genius to figure out this all means that while we're improving our methods, we're not improving them as fast as we're growing. Derp.
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Post subject: Re: 36 states expect to face water shortages within 5 years
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:32 pm
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McParadigmatWork wrote:
$úñ_DëV|L wrote:
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"We don't value water and we're going to regret it," Heeney says. "We forget. We're as dumb as we can be and we don't learn."
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"Per capita use of water is down because we're learning to be more efficient," Svoboda says.
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The droughts are caused by rapid population growth and unwise agricultural choices.
Don't have to be a genius to figure out this all means that while we're improving our methods, we're not improving them as fast as we're growing. Derp.
One guy says we're learning, and one says we don't learn. The inconsistency in their positions is apparent.
Obviously the idea of moving the agriculture to where there is actually rainfall is a good one, though.
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Post subject: Re: 36 states expect to face water shortages within 5 years
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:02 pm
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LittleWing wrote:
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The droughts are caused by rapid population growth and unwise agricultural choices.
That's funny. I could have sworn that droughts were caused by a lack of precipitation. Weird.
I could have sworn there can be multiple causes of droughts.
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Post subject: Re: 36 states expect to face water shortages within 5 years
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:07 pm
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Of course there are, but watch LittleWang get all defensive about it anyways
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Post subject: Re: 36 states expect to face water shortages within 5 years
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:18 pm
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I have a rain barrel!!
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Post subject: Re: 36 states expect to face water shortages within 5 years
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:48 pm
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NaiveAndTrue wrote:
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The rain is still falling, but you're out of water because the storage facilities are not big enough," Christy says.
This is why we read the WHOLE article.
That doesn't really make sense though, considering the picture of Lake Powell with the water lines 20 feet above the surface of teh lake. There's plenty of excess room in the reservoirs. The rain isn't falling, or it's not falling in teh right places.
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Post subject: Re: 36 states expect to face water shortages within 5 years
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:22 pm
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punkdavid wrote:
NaiveAndTrue wrote:
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The rain is still falling, but you're out of water because the storage facilities are not big enough," Christy says.
This is why we read the WHOLE article.
That doesn't really make sense though, considering the picture of Lake Powell with the water lines 20 feet above the surface of the lake. There's plenty of excess room in the reservoirs. The rain isn't falling, or it's not falling in the right places.
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Post subject: Re: 36 states expect to face water shortages within 5 years
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:27 pm
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This is 4 years old, but it looks like, while we have improved our efficiency from the peak consumption (number of people served has increased 8% in that time), the drop in actual usage is near-negligable.
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Post subject: Re: 36 states expect to face water shortages within 5 years
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:14 pm
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From the fusion thread I posted a while back:
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Some problems which are expected to be an issue in this century such as fresh water shortages can actually be regarded merely as problems of energy supply. For example, in desalination plants, seawater can be purified through distillation or reverse osmosis. However, these processes are energy intensive. Even if the first fusion plants are not competitive with alternative sources, fusion could still become competitive if large scale desalination requires more power than the alternatives are able to provide.
Short-term shortages aside, we are going to continue having more and more problems with water as we continue to consume more of it. It is only a matter of time before rainfall can't keep up, and we will need more powerful and efficient ways of processing water that isn't fresh.
This is huge problem and many of the major engineering companies are looking at ways to better track and manage water resources from a federal standpoint, with some pretty neat ideas coming from it. That's all I can disclose at this time.
Post subject: Re: 36 states expect to face water shortages within 5 years
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:14 am
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
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I have a rain barrel!!
Soon, it will be empty.
I need a second one. It fills up really fucking fast and then overflows.
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Post subject: Re: 36 states expect to face water shortages within 5 years
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:58 pm
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NaiveAndTrue wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
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The droughts are caused by rapid population growth and unwise agricultural choices.
That's funny. I could have sworn that droughts were caused by a lack of precipitation. Weird.
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The rain is still falling, but you're out of water because the storage facilities are not big enough," Christy says.
This is why we read the WHOLE article.
Interesting.
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drought /draʊt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [drout] Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. a period of dry weather, esp. a long one that is injurious to crops. 2. an extended shortage: a drought of good writing.
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drought (drout) Pronunciation Key n. A long period of abnormally low rainfall, especially one that adversely affects growing or living conditions. A prolonged dearth or shortage.
The rain is still falling?
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John R. Christy, a professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, says the last three years have been drier than usual in many parts of the United States. - Article
This is why we read the whole article.
Droughts are caused by rainfall. Water shortages, on the other hand, can be caused by humans using too much water. The Southwest is not under a drought because Las Vegas is sucking up water from Lake Powell. The southwest is under a drought because it hasn't rained for shit in the west for years now. The southeast is in a drought because it hasn't rained for shit there the last two and a half years.
But hey, it's nice to know the members of this board still cannot splice doomsday bullshit spewed by the media and reality.
A drought has never been caused by humanity. Droughts are from a lack a rainfall.
Post subject: Re: 36 states expect to face water shortages within 5 years
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:48 pm
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When did LittleWing become a grammar nazi?
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Post subject: Re: 36 states expect to face water shortages within 5 years
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:56 pm
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glorified_version wrote:
Of course there are, but watch LittleWang get all defensive about it anyways
Heh, called it
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