Another moral dilemma type question. Let's say you're in charge of a class. Fight breaks out. One kid is a bully/instigator. You saw him start the fight. The other kid is the bullied/victim. The bully is pounding the other kid. As you break up the fight, would it be wrong it to break it up in such a way that you restrain the bully and intentionally let the other kid get a couple of quick shots in before you end the whole thing?
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_________________ "Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires." -- John Steinbeck
So it'd be okay for a teacher to knowingly and purposely help one kid be violent towards another?
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not with today's parents that find out about things like that....
A. Let's pretend we're in a ghetto. This is going to sound bad, but do you really think the mom of bad kid who gets in fights all the time is going to make much of an issue over something she'll think the kid is probably lying about anyway? That's to say the kid even says something.
B. How do they prove you did anything intentionally? Breaking up a fight by yourself in a way that doesn't allow one kid to get an undefended blow is tough.
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dkfan9 wrote:
aprilfifth wrote:
So it'd be okay for a teacher to knowingly and purposely help one kid be violent towards another?
assuming the violence is not excessive, i see no reason why not.
any sort of violence in a classroom is excessive. if you were breaking a fight up in a bar or on the street you could get away with this, but not as a teacher
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So it'd be okay for a teacher to knowingly and purposely help one kid be violent towards another?
assuming the violence is not excessive, i see no reason why not.
any sort of violence in a classroom is excessive. if you were breaking a fight up in a bar or on the street you could get away with this, but not as a teacher
So is it the kind of thing that is technically wrong that you would never officially endorse, but you'd look the other way if it actually happened since the kid probably deserves it anyway?
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aprilfifth wrote:
Doug RR wrote:
aprilfifth wrote:
You could get away with it.
not with today's parents that find out about things like that....
B. How do they prove you did anything intentionally? Breaking up a fight by yourself in a way that doesn't allow one kid to get an undefended blow is tough.
link to this thread.
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Lol. Well if I ever follow through on this fantasy, I guess you'll see this thread disappear.
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aprilfifth wrote:
warehouse wrote:
dkfan9 wrote:
aprilfifth wrote:
So it'd be okay for a teacher to knowingly and purposely help one kid be violent towards another?
assuming the violence is not excessive, i see no reason why not.
any sort of violence in a classroom is excessive. if you were breaking a fight up in a bar or on the street you could get away with this, but not as a teacher
So is it the kind of thing that is technically wrong that you would never officially endorse, but you'd look the other way if it actually happened since the kid probably deserves it anyway?
I totally endorse the idea but wouldnt want to lose a job over it
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aprilfifth wrote:
warehouse wrote:
dkfan9 wrote:
aprilfifth wrote:
So it'd be okay for a teacher to knowingly and purposely help one kid be violent towards another?
assuming the violence is not excessive, i see no reason why not.
any sort of violence in a classroom is excessive. if you were breaking a fight up in a bar or on the street you could get away with this, but not as a teacher
So is it the kind of thing that is technically wrong that you would never officially endorse, but you'd look the other way if it actually happened since the kid probably deserves it anyway?
i guess thats a fair way to put it. i mean, who doesnt like seeing a bully get beat up? but at the same time if its happening in your classroom you have to stop it.
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