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Judge Says Calif. Can't Ban Gay Marriage

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By LISA LEFF, Associated Press Writer

SAN FRANCISCO - A judge ruled Monday that California's ban on gay marriage is unconstitutional, saying the state could no longer justify limiting marriage to a man and a woman.

In the eagerly awaited opinion likely to be appealed to the state's highest court, San Francisco County Superior Court Judge Richard Kramer said that withholding marriage licenses from gays and lesbians is unconstitutional.

"It appears that no rational purpose exists for limiting marriage in this state to opposite-sex partners," Kramer wrote.

The judge wrote that the state's historical definition of marriage, by itself, cannot justify the denial of equal protection for gays and lesbians.

"The state's protracted denial of equal protection cannot be justified simply because such constitutional violation has become traditional," Kramer wrote.

Kramer ruled in lawsuits brought by the city of San Francisco and a dozen same-sex couples last March. The suits were brought after the California Supreme Court halted a four-week marriage spree that Mayor Gavin Newsom had initiated in February 2004 when he directed city officials to issue marriage licenses to gays and lesbians in defiance of state law.

The plaintiffs said withholding marriage licenses from gays and lesbians trespasses on the civil rights all citizens are guaranteed under the California Constitution.

Two legal groups representing religious conservatives joined with California Attorney General Bill Lockyer in defending the existing laws and had vowed to appeal if Kramer did not rule in their favor.

Lockyer's office has said it expects the matter eventually will have to be settled by the California Supreme Court.

A pair of bills pending before the California Legislature would put a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage on the November ballot. If California voters approve such an amendment, as those in 13 other states did last year, that would put the issue out of the control of lawmakers and the courts.


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They'll destroy the sanctity of marriage!


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Buggy wrote:
It's only a matter of time. It will happen, it just depends on how many roadblocks are thrown out in the process.


To stop gay marriage or allow it?

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.Score 1 for Civil Rights.
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Estranged wrote:
Buggy wrote:
It's only a matter of time. It will happen, it just depends on how many roadblocks are thrown out in the process.

To stop gay marriage or allow it?


Allow it.


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Athletic Supporter wrote:
They'll destroy the sanctity of marriage!

People will be having sex with trees and marrying their dogs soon, and civilization will crumble! This is what happens when "activist judges legislate from the bench."

Anyway, I saw this article today and I wish it had gotten more media attention. When the vatican calls gay marriage "evil", or release "research" reports that claim "gays and feminists are eroding the family", it's worldwide news. Actual family research and long-standing findings which contradict that view aren't really reported on much. The fundamentalists, the vatican, and everyone who utilizes their myths to speak out against this "evil" are flat-out wrong on so many levels when it comes to this issue and other matters related to the family--historically, cross-culturally, and in modern analysis--and this highlights some of it.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 59NGM1.DTL

Scientists counter Bush view -- Families varied, say anthropologists
Charles Burress, Chronicle Staff Writer
Friday, February 27, 2004

The primary organization representing American anthropologists criticized President Bush's proposed constitutional ban on same-sex marriage Thursday and gave a failing grade to the president's understanding of human cultures.

"The results of more than a century of anthropological research on households, kinship relationships and families, across cultures and through time, provide no support whatsoever for the view that either civilization or viable social orders depend upon marriage as an exclusively heterosexual institution," said the executive board of the 11,000-member American Anthropological Association.

Bush has cast the union between male and female as the only proper form of marriage, or what he called in his State of the Union address "one of the most fundamental, enduring institutions of our civilization."

American anthropologists say he's wrong.

"Rather, anthropological research supports the conclusion that a vast array of family types, including families built upon same-sex partnerships, can contribute to stable and humane societies," the association's statement said, adding that the executive board "strongly opposes a constitutional amendment limiting marriage to heterosexual couples."

The statement was proposed by Dan Segal, a professor of anthropology and history from Pitzer College in Claremont (Los Angeles County), who called Bush's conception of the history of marriage "patently false."

"If he were to take even the first semester of anthropology, he would know that's not true," said Segal, a member of the anthropological association's Executive Committee.

Ghita Levine, communications director for the association, said the issue struck a nerve in the profession.

"They feel strongly about it because they are the people who study the culture through time and across the world," she said. "They are the people who know what cultures consist of."

Segal pointed to "sanctified same-sex unions in the fourth century in Christianity" and to the Greeks and Romans applying the concept of marriage to same-sex couples, not to mention the Native American berdache tradition in which males married males.

UC Berkeley anthropologist Laura Nader, an expert in anthropology and the law who played no role in drawing up the association's statement, called it a "correct assessment."

Nader, who is an association member, said Bush's proposal "serves the views of the religious right, and that has to do with getting votes."


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That, my friends, is what we call serious ownage. Thanks for the article, Skywalker.

Every time I hear the word "family" come out of a politician I want to puke.


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Green Habit wrote:
Thanks for the article, Skywalker.


Indeed, good article. Thanks!


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That, my friends, is what we call serious ownage. Thanks for the article, Skywalker.

Every time I hear the word "family" come out of a politician I want to puke.


I knew someone would come through. Thanks, Buggy!

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Someone have time to make that banner say "OWNED!"?? I think we can make good use of it in the future.

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just_b wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
That, my friends, is what we call serious ownage. Thanks for the article, Skywalker.

Every time I hear the word "family" come out of a politician I want to puke.



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Someone have time to make that banner say "OWNED!"?? I think we can make good use of it in the future.


I just tried, but it's going to be REALLY tough without drastically changing the background of the banner. :( Plus there's no W to use.


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I just tried, but it's going to be REALLY tough without drastically changing the background of the banner. :( Plus there's no W to use.
You may have to make an entirely new banner. I feel confident that someone will figure it out by the end of the day.

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Sweet!

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No problem. I just looked up the statement page on the AAA site and there's several other similar articles linked there as well.

http://www.aaanet.org/press/ma_stmt_marriage.htm

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