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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:28 am 
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Right on, Andy Rooney !

Andy Rooney said on '60 Minutes' a few weeks back:

I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers.. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens...Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.

Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.

I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, which is why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts! ARE YOU LISTENING MARTHA BURKE ? < BR>
I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion.

I have the right 'NOT' to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off.

When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling; it is the Law of Probability.

I believe that if you are selling me a milkshake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English!

My father and grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.

I think the police should have every right to shoot you if you threate n them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word 'freeze' or 'stop' in English, see the above lines.

I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business.

We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document; and open to their interpretations.

I don't hate the rich I don't pity the poor

I know pro wrestling is fake, but so are movies and television. That doesn't stop you from watching them.

I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that's better, and put your name on the building.

It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds when necessary, and say 'NO!'

I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don't pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home until that new lip ring heals. I don't want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me French fries!

I am sick of 'Political Correctness.' I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa ; so how can they be 'African-Americans'? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else

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 Post subject: Re: lol what ya think of this email
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:32 am 
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did he really say that?

he's a crazy old kook but i highly doubt he said that stuff. is this a hoax? i swear i've seen andy rooney hoaxes before.

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invention wrote:
did he really say that?

he's a crazy old kook but i highly doubt he said that stuff. is this a hoax? i swear i've seen andy rooney hoaxes before.


who knows..probably just someone said it and they credited him wiht it..like when you get "adam sandler quotes", and they end up being carlin sayings

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invention wrote:
did he really say that?

he's a crazy old kook but i highly doubt he said that stuff. is this a hoax? i swear i've seen andy rooney hoaxes before.


Yeah, this was the first Google result I got:

http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/badrooney.html


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Good lord this is one old hoax.

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 Post subject: Re: lol what ya think of this email
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i think i've gotten this e-mail a dozen times.

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i might be a cold hearted bastard but i thought that was great 8)


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Good lord this is one old hoax.

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When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling; it is the Law of Probability.



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The title of that ought to be: "Talking Points for the Modern Social Conservative"

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kusko_andy wrote:
The title of that ought to be: "Talking Points for the Modern Social Conservative"


Yeah, because I'm sure conservatives only think this way. Save me the political party bullshit. We all think this way sometimes, it's only some of us who voice it


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You handle e-mail forwards like my mother. :|

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I Hail Randy Moss wrote:
kusko_andy wrote:
The title of that ought to be: "Talking Points for the Modern Social Conservative"


Yeah, because I'm sure conservatives only think this way. Save me the political party bullshit. We all think this way sometimes, it's only some of us who voice it


Not all of us think this way. Just bigots, racists, and generally uneducated, ignorant cretins.

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I Hail Randy Moss wrote:
kusko_andy wrote:
The title of that ought to be: "Talking Points for the Modern Social Conservative"


Yeah, because I'm sure conservatives only think this way. Save me the political party bullshit. We all think this way sometimes, it's only some of us who voice it


Not all of us think this way. Just bigots, racists, and generally uneducated, ignorant cretins.


Ummmmm....I wouldn't consider myself to be uneducated or racist, but I have to say I agree with these two:

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Right on, Andy Rooney !


Well played. :roll:

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I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers.. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens...Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.


whether you think this is racist or not, you know very well this is true, only replace jesse with al. for instance, the golf channel girl, forget her name, shes been friends with Tiger for over a decade, she made comment during a conversation with nick faldo about ways to beat tiger woods and she said, lynch him in an alley way.

tiger and his agent both came out and said they consider it a non issue since her and tiger are such good friends. but al has to step up and demand she be fired cause she offended millions of african americans. first off, i bet maybe 10,000 minorities total watch the golf network and secondly, the person who it was made towards said it was a non issue and that he knows it was not said in a racist manner, so thats what should have been done.

but al is like my mother, not happy unless they are bitching about something


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i dont think anything is particularly wrong with either of these.

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I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion.


having an open mind about everything isnt always needed, though it does help, and it doesnt make you a bad person per se

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I have the right 'NOT' to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off.


i think this probably fits 99% of the so called liberals on this board

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When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling; it is the Law of Probability.


i have no problem with this either. as i have stated several times before this, just after 9-11, the interviewed a black guy from jersey and asked him about the racial profiling middle easterners were facing and he said he was all for it, i mean, they were the ones who hijacked those planes right? so when he was asked about why a certain stretch of jersey expressway always had blacks pulled over he said he was outraged, even though the numbers of carjackers and violent crimes were close to the numbers as the hijackers. he just shut up


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I believe that if you are selling me a milkshake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English!

My father and grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.

I think the police should have every right to shoot you if you threate n them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word 'freeze' or 'stop' in English, see the above lines.

I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business.

We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document; and open to their interpretations.


i will say this. people who come here, legally or illegally should make a better attempt to speak the language and fit in with our culture, but when we ask this of them, we are trying to stiffle their personal freedoms, but when americans go to other countries and do this, we are ignorant and lazy for not adapting to the host country's culture

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I don't hate the rich I don't pity the poor


i have both in my family and i can honestly say the only thing that seperates them is drive. people who are rich should not have to help support the poor to a greater degree than others

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I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that's better, and put your name on the building.


i would pray nooone would argue with this

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i look back at some of the things my mother did, and had it been this day and age, there is no doubt id be a foster kid, but i did learn from it so i have no ill will at all about it

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I am sick of 'Political Correctness.' I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa ; so how can they be 'African-Americans'? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else


i cant really disagree with this either, though i have no problem with people being proud of their heritage

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I am sick of 'Political Correctness.' I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa ; so how can they be 'African-Americans'? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else


This one is correct. Black people are black. Assuming every black person is from Africa is asinine. There's nothing wrong with being black, or white, or whatever. It's just a description, and it's more accurate (and less offensive) than saying African-American. Unless you're the son of immigrants from Ghana or something like that.

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Still waiting for someone to argue against the statements made in "Rooney's" email...

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Still waiting for someone to argue against the statements made in "Rooney's" email...

Or you can just let Andy Rooney himself do it.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/rooney4.asp

Moreover, Andy Rooney himself denied it in 2003, saying:

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About a year ago, I became aware of a more serious theft of my name and it is so hurtful to my reputation that it calls for legal action against the thief. Hundreds of people have written asking if I really wrote the detestable remarks made under my name that have had such wide circulation on the Internet.

Some of the remarks, which I will not repeat here, are viciously racist and the spirit of the whole thing is nasty, mean and totally inconsistent with my philosophy of life. It is apparent that the list of comments has been read by hundreds of thousands of Americans, many of whom must believe that it accurately represents opinions of mine that I don't dare express in my column or on television. It is seriously damaging to my reputation.


Mr. Rooney disclaimed the above-quoted piece again in his 60 Minutes segment of 23 October 2005, saying of it:

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I don't think it's racist and that mean spirited. This is America. In America many different types of people walk around. The result is plenty of people fuming with each other over every day things. I've accepted that. I've accepted that I live in a diverse country where not everyone is going to like each other. That is the price America pays for standing by the principles it stands by. And I'm OKAY with that. I think a new term should be invented for people who are born into a culture that has been seeped into such a wide range of ethnicities and values, which results in their own ridiculements of that culture. Sometimes I think that you can't help but to think the things you do. People on this message board will find this e mail offensive, when I'm damn sure they have ridiculed plenty of people themselves. It's okay if you are. You're not going out sending anyone into concentration camps, or petitioning for anyone to move back to where they came from (at least I hope you're not).

I always liked this bit from "25th Hour". Yes, the message inevitably says that this hatred should be frowned upon, but the writer of dialouge still had to think the remarks in order to write them. Like I said, you can't help but to think the things you do when living in a country like you do.

Well, fuck you, too. Fuck me, fuck you, fuck this whole city and everyone in it. Fuck the panhandlers, grubbing for money, and smiling at me behind my back. Fuck the squeegee men dirtying up the clean windshield of my car. Get a fucking job! Fuck the Sikhs and the Pakistanis bombing down the avenues in decrepit cabs, curry steaming out their pores, stinking up my day. Terrorists in fucking training. SLOW THE FUCK DOWN! Fuck the Chelsea boys with their waxed chests and pumped up biceps. Going down on each other in my parks and on my piers, jingling their dicks on my Channel 35. Fuck the Korean grocers with their pyramids of overpriced fruit and their tulips and roses wrapped in plastic. Ten years in the country, still no speaky English? Fuck the Russians in Brighton Beach. Mobster thugs sitting in cafés, sipping tea in little glasses, sugar cubes between their teeth. Wheelin' and dealin' and schemin'. Go back where you fucking came from! Fuck the black-hatted Chassidim, strolling up and down 47th street in their dirty gabardine with their dandruff. Selling South African apartheid diamonds! Fuck the Wall Street brokers. Self-styled masters of the universe. Michael Douglas, Gordon Gekko wannabe mother fuckers, figuring out new ways to rob hard working people blind. Send those Enron assholes to jail for FUCKING LIFE! You think Bush and Cheney didn't know about that shit? Give me a fucking break! Tyco! Worldcom! Fuck the Puerto Ricans. 20 to a car, swelling up the welfare rolls, worst fuckin' parade in the city. And don't even get me started on the Dom-in-i-cans, 'cause they make the Puerto Ricans look good. Fuck the Bensonhurst Italians with their pomaded hair, their nylon warm-up suits, their St. Anthony medallions, swinging their, Jason Giambi, Louisville slugger, baseball bats, trying to audition for the Sopranos. Fuck the Upper East Side wives with their Hermes scarves and their fifty-dollar Balducci artichokes. Overfed faces getting pulled and lifted and stretched, all taut and shiny. You're not fooling anybody, sweetheart! Fuck the uptown brothers. They never pass the ball, they don't want to play defense, they take five steps on every lay-up to the hoop. And then they want to turn around and blame everything on the white man. Slavery ended one hundred and thirty seven years ago. Move the fuck on! Fuck the corrupt cops with their anus violating plungers and their 41 shots, standing behind a blue wall of silence. You betray our trust! Fuck the priests who put their hands down some innocent child's pants. Fuck the church that protects them, delivering us into evil. And while you're at it, fuck JC! He got off easy! A day on the cross, a weekend in hell, and all the hallelujahs of the legioned angels for eternity! Try seven years in fuckin' Otisville, J! Fuck Osama Bin Laden, Al Qaeda, and backward-ass, cave-dwelling, fundamentalist assholes everywhere. On the names of innocent thousands murdered, I pray you spend the rest of eternity with your seventy-two whores roasting in a jet-fuel fire in hell. You towel headed camel jockeys can kiss my royal Irish ass! Fuck Jacob Elinsky, whining malcontent. Fuck Francis Xavier Slaughtery my best friend, judging me while he stares at my girlfriend's ass. Fuck Naturelle Riviera, I gave her my trust and she stabbed me in the back, sold me up the river, fucking bitch. Fuck my father with his endless grief, standing behind that bar sipping on club sodas, selling whisky to firemen, cheering the Bronx bombers. Fuck this whole city and everyone in it. From the row-houses of Astoria to the penthouses on Park Avenue, from the projects in the Bronx to the lofts in Soho. From the tenements in Alphabet City to the brownstones in Park slope to the split-levels in Staten Island. Let an earthquake crumble it, let the fires rage, let it burn to fucking ash and then let the waters rise and submerge this whole rat-infested place.


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