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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:06 pm 
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Out of all of the things somehow connected to racism, this is the one that I "get" the least when it goes down paths like this:

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The Fashion Industry May Be Embracing It, But Blackface Is Not Art
February 22, 2011 12:48 PM

In the black community, there are two folks that you may not speak badly of because if you do, you risk being ostracized by close friends and/or family—President Barack Obama and Beyonce Knowles.

Since I’ve already taken Obama to task on a number of issues, I might as well alienate the other half of the black community and ask what the heck was Beyonce thinking when she decided to do a fashion editorial in blackface?

The Bootylicious singer is featured on the March cover of the famous French fashion magazine L’Officiel Paris with her face darkened to, according to the magazine, pay tribute to Nigerian musician and human rights activist Fela Kuti.

*Blank stare*

Yeah, that’s right; the fashion magazine says that the editorial is meant to show Beyonce, who has noted Fela Kuti as inspiration for her forthcoming album, “far from the glamorous Sasha Fierce” and more connected to “her African roots.”

As a fan of Fela Kuti, a man who was passionate about the freedom of Blacks/Africans throughout the Diaspora, I’m not quite sure as to how blackface pays tribute to him. While my adoration for Beyonce’s talent and work ethic are unparalleled, I’m not quite sure as to why she would agree to do a photo shoot that associates her with one of the most deeply rooted racist images in American history. Nor do I understand L’Officiel Paris’ rationale that to revel in one’s “African roots,” they have to be “far away from glamorous” and fierce.

Nevertheless, Beyonce is just the tip of the black-faced iceberg since designers throughout the fashion world have taken the potentially racist symbol and turned it into the hottest thing on and off the catwalk. French Vogue was among the first to initiate the blackface trend when they featured a 14 page editorial of Dutch model Lara Stone in blackface. Not to be outdone, Paris-based Mongolian designer Tsolmandakh Munkhuu photographed her models in black paint from head to toe for the Hyères International Festival of Fashion and Photography.

There are many more examples of this trend. But with the frequent use of this image on both the catwalk and in fashion editorial, it makes one wonder if this is a form of art or racism?

The tradition of blackface began as theatrical makeup used in minstrel shows that would “blacken” an actor’s face using shoe paint, burnt cork and greasepaint. The practice became synonymous with racism because it was used by white actors to entertain white audiences with stereotypical caricatures of blacks. This once beloved art form has played a significant role in cementing globally racist imagery and perceptions about black people.

The current tone of blackface may seem to be less malevolent today; still, the fashion industry has shown their insensitivity because this imagery is still considered in the black community to be just as insidious and hurtful as it was in the past. Blackface is not fashion forward or edgy and in my opinion, it is just flat out offensive. Black folks must have a zero tolerance policy for any manifestation of blackface, period.

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is that uglyduckling?


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 Post subject: Re: Blackface
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is that really blackface though?


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Spike wrote:
is that really blackface though?
That's kind of my point.


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Green Habit wrote:
Spike wrote:
is that really blackface though?
That's kind of my point.

i'm thinking a soundbite from ted danson would clear this all up.


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Wait, wasn't everyone complaining like, last year or something that her makeup ads made her look "Too white"?

I'm not a Beyonce' fan in any definition of the word, her voice makes me want to kick babies, but it doesn't seem like she can do anything right. lol

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I knew this thread wouldn't be complete without an HB post. :thumbsup:


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 Post subject: Re: Blackface
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The current tone of blackface may seem to be less malevolent today

This.

The stereotypes associated are pretty outdated and no longer relevant. Not to mention had more to do with the performance than the makeup itself.


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tryinmorning wrote:
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The current tone of blackface may seem to be less malevolent today

This.

The stereotypes associated are pretty outdated and no longer relevant. Not to mention had more to do with the performance than the makeup itself.

okay, make this your new avatar.

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To demonstrate what? I stand by my previous comment. The offensiveness that comes from blackface is due to the performance not the makeup itself. Unless Beyonce goes pulling an "oh lawdy" routine I fail to see this as anything more than the media drumming up controversy over a celebrity. Sorry, but I don't like being told what to do.


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tryinmorning wrote:
To demonstrate what? I stand by my previous comment. The offensiveness that comes from blackface is due to the performance not the makeup itself. Unless Beyonce goes pulling an "oh lawdy" routine I fail to see this as anything more than the media drumming up controversy over a celebrity. Sorry, but I don't like being told what to do.

do it.


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I keep mistaking this thread for a different kind of face.
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tryinmorning and i have been communicating via PM and he's agreed to walk around town donning blackface mañana, because it's no big deal. results will be posted in this thread.


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Spike wrote:
tryinmorning and i have been communicating via PM and he's agreed to walk around town donning blackface mañana, because it's no big deal. results will be posted in this thread.

what kind of town are you going to be walking around in?

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Spike wrote:
tryinmorning and i have been communicating via PM and he's agreed to walk around town donning blackface mañana, because it's no big deal. results will be posted in this thread.

Honestly, Spike. After communicating with you in this thread I find that I have to agree with LittleWing. You must be a woman as it is apparent you never listen.


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tryinmorning wrote:
Spike wrote:
tryinmorning and i have been communicating via PM and he's agreed to walk around town donning blackface mañana, because it's no big deal. results will be posted in this thread.

Honestly, Spike. After communicating with you in this thread I find that I have to agree with LittleWing. You must be a woman as it is apparent you never listen.

racial and gender insensitivity. you're a real catch.


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