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Strauss-Kahn Accuser’s Call Alarmed Prosecutors

By JIM DWYER and MICHAEL WILSON

Twenty-eight hours after a housekeeper at the Sofitel New York said she was sexually assaulted by Dominique Strauss-Kahn, she spoke by phone to a boyfriend in an immigration jail in Arizona.

Investigators with the Manhattan district attorney’s office learned the call had been recorded and had it translated from a “unique dialect of Fulani,” a language from the woman’s native country, Guinea, according to a well-placed law enforcement official.

When the conversation was translated — a job completed only this Wednesday — investigators were alarmed: “She says words to the effect of, ‘Don’t worry, this guy has a lot of money. I know what I’m doing,’ ” the official said.

It was another ground-shifting revelation in a continuing series of troubling statements, fabrications and associations that unraveled the case and upended prosecutors’ view of the woman. Once, in the hours after she said she was attacked on May 14, she’d been a “very pious, devout Muslim woman, shattered by this experience,” the official said — a seemingly ideal witness.

Little by little, her credibility as a witness crumbled — she had lied about her immigration, about being gang raped in Guinea, about her experiences in her homeland and about her finances, according to two law enforcement officials. She had been linked to people suspected of crimes. She changed her account of what she did immediately after the encounter with Mr. Strauss-Kahn. Sit-downs with prosecutors became tense, even angry. Initially composed, she later collapsed in tears and got down on the floor during questioning. She became unavailable to investigators from the district attorney’s office for days at a time.

Now the phone call raised yet another problem: it seemed as if she hoped to profit from whatever occurred in Suite 2806.

The story of the woman’s six-week journey from seemingly credible victim, in the eyes of prosecutors, to a deeply unreliable witness, is drawn from interviews with law enforcement officials, statements from the woman’s lawyer and a letter from prosecutors to Mr. Strauss-Kahn’s defense team released in court on Friday. Some of the events were confirmed by both law enforcement officials and the women’s lawyer; others rely solely on law enforcement officials. In the end, it was the prosecutors’ assessment of the housekeeper’s credibility that led them to downgrade their confidence in the case and agree on Friday that Mr. Strauss-Kahn could be freed from house arrest.

In the beginning, her relationship with prosecutors was strong. Her account seemed solid. Over time, the well-placed official said, they discovered that she was capable of telling multiple, inconsistent versions of what appeared to be important episodes in her life. After the encounter with Mr. Strauss-Kahn, she asked her supervisor at Sofitel, “Can any guest at the hotel do anything they want with us?” her lawyer, Kenneth P. Thompson, said during a sidewalk press conference on Friday defending her.

The supervisor called security, and officers, finding semen on the floor and wall, called the police, setting off the quick chain of events that led to police officers escorting Mr. Strauss-Kahn off an Air France plane set to depart Kennedy International Airport.

Suspicions of the woman’s associations arose relatively quickly: within a week of Mr. Strauss-Kahn’s arrest, the authorities learned of a recorded conversation between the subject of a drug investigation and another man, who said his companion was the woman involved in the Strauss-Kahn matter, according to another law enforcement official.

Prosecutors and investigators interviewed the woman at length.

Her immigration history was a focus. At first, she told them what she told immigration officials seven years ago in her accounts of how she fled Guinea and her application for asylum on Dec. 30, 2004. She described soldiers destroying the home where she lived with her husband, and said they were both beaten because of their opposition to the regime. She said her husband died in jail.

But then, in a subsequent interview with Manhattan prosecutors, she said the story was false, one she had been urged to tell by a man who gave it to her on a cassette recording to memorize. She had listened to the recording repeatedly.

The housekeeper also told investigators that she had been gang raped in Guinea. She cried and became “markedly distraught when recounting the incident,” according to a letter to the defense from prosecutors released Friday. But she later admitted that that, too, was a lie, once again one she had told to help her application for asylum. She said she was indeed raped in Guinea, but not in the way she had described.

Her lawyer, Mr. Thompson, said she was desperate to leave Guinea, and had been encouraged to embellish her application for asylum.

The boyfriend in the Arizona detention center was another issue. He had been arrested while bartering counterfeit designer clothing from Manhattan’s Chinatown for marijuana in the Southwest, the well-placed law enforcement official said. Her lawyer said she did not know the man was “a drug dealer.”

Meanwhile, as the interviews continued, the relationship grew more strained. During a meeting at the district attorney’s office on June 9, the woman wept as she was questioned closely after Mr. Thompson had left for another engagement. Her 15-year-old daughter, who was waiting outside, noticed that her mother was upset and called a relative to alert Mr. Thompson. The lawyer called the prosecutors and demanded an end to the questioning. He said on Friday that the daughter heard them shout, “Get out! Get out! Get out of here!” at her mother. The authorities say there was no shouting.

At another meeting, the woman threw herself to the floor in response to questions, the well-placed official said.

Then, for some 10 days, prosecutors were unable to get Mr. Thompson to bring her in; the lawyer said she was being treated for a shoulder injury that she suffered in the attack, an injury she had not reported earlier.

The final meeting occurred on Tuesday in the seventh-floor offices of the district attorney at 1 Hogan Place. It began at 11 a.m. and lasted five or six hours, except for a short lunch break, around an oval table in a conference room in the offices of the Public Integrity Unit.

It was devastating. In recent weeks, investigators collected bank records showing deposits of thousands of dollars in Arizona, Georgia, New York and Pennsylvania to an account in her name.

The woman had repeatedly said that the Sofitel was her only source of income.

Now, investigators confronted her with the bank records.

The woman, silent, turned to Mr. Thompson, seemingly pleading for direction on how to respond. He seemed startled.

“He was speechless,” the well-placed official said.

The district attorney’s office said the woman had lied about her income to maintain her public housing, and had claimed a friend’s child as her own dependant to increase her tax refund.

At the same meeting, the woman gave a new version of what she had done immediately after the encounter with Mr. Strauss-Kahn. In testimony before the grand jury in May, she said she had fled Suite 2806 to an area in the main hallway and waited until she saw Mr. Strauss-Kahn leave in an elevator. She has said that her supervisor arrived a short time later, and that she told her supervisor what had happened.

On Tuesday, the well-placed official said, she told investigators new details, stating, “I forgot to tell you this.”

In fact, she said, she left Mr. Strauss-Kahn’s room and entered another room — her lawyer said it was Suite 2820 — and cleaned it, and then returned to Suite 2806 and cleaned it until her supervisor arrived.

“She did not know what to do,” her lawyer said. “She did not want to lose her job. She knew that her supervisor was going to be coming upstairs momentarily. So, she went into another room.”

And yet, even this version was not corroborated by card-key data obtained by investigators on Friday, which indicated that the housekeeper went to the other room only after she had finished Mr. Strauss-Kahn’s room.

Some within the district attorney’s office suggested that the rush to bring the case to a grand jury may have contributed to its current, weakened state.

Early on, there appeared to be disagreement in the office over how to proceed — whether to agree to a bail package for Mr. Strauss-Kahn and take more time to investigate before seeking his indictment, or whether to try to keep him locked up and quickly take the case to the grand jury for an indictment, according to three people involved in the case.

The office chose to seek a quick indictment, but a Manhattan judge let Mr. Strauss-Kahn out on bail anyway.

Mr. Thompson said that the housekeeper’s account of what took place in Suite 2806 is the only one that matters, and said that in the jail recording, she recounted a version of the encounter that matched what she had told the police.

“It’s a fact that the victim here has made some mistakes, but that doesn’t mean she’s not a rape victim,” Mr. Thompson said Friday.

The woman has been crushed that her inconsistent statements have been brought to light, Mr. Thompson said. “I will go to my grave knowing what this man did to me,” she told him on Friday, he said.

John Eligon and William K. Rashbaum contributed reporting.

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What Happened in Room 2806: Three Possibilities

By JOHN ELIGON

Even as the criminal case against Dominique Strauss-Kahn erodes with each new example of his accuser’s crumbling credibility, the central question remains unanswered: What actually happened in Room 2806 of the Sofitel New York on May 14?

Certain facts are not in dispute. As the illustration above shows, electronic evidence reveals what time the accuser, a 32-year-old hotel housekeeper from Guinea, entered Mr. Strauss-Kahn’s suite. Physical evidence indicates that a sexual encounter took place.

The housekeeper has characterized the encounter as a sexual assault. Lawyers for Mr. Strauss-Kahn, 62, have said any sexual act was consensual. Others have offered other theories.

Here is a look at three possible sequences of events, and how the available evidence — physical, electronic and witness testimony — could support each of them.

A Forced, and Brief, Encounter

The housekeeper has told police officers, prosecutors and hospital officials that Mr. Strauss-Kahn forced her to perform oral sex.

Law enforcement officials believed that her account, offered in graphic detail, was credible: Mr. Strauss-Kahn, naked, emerged after she entered to clean the room. He locked the door, pushed her to the bed and began to assault her. She got away, but then he grabbed her, pulling her toward the bathroom. She fell and he forced her to perform oral sex; she told a hospital counselor, among others, that she spit on the carpet after he was done.

Prosecutors have said in court that forensic evidence was consistent with the housekeeper’s account, but they did not provide specifics. The woman’s lawyer, Kenneth P. Thompson, however, offered more details last week.

He said there was evidence that his client had spit semen onto the wall and the floor of the suite, consistent with the notion that she was an unwilling participant.

The woman also suffered bruising to her vaginal area (she told investigators Mr. Strauss-Kahn grabbed her there), and she tore a ligament in her shoulder, Mr. Thompson said. Prosecutors have not publicly confirmed whether the woman had those injuries.

A law enforcement official has also said that Mr. Strauss-Kahn’s semen was found on the housekeeper’s clothes.

The short period in which Mr. Strauss-Kahn and the woman were both in the suite might also indicate “something other than a consensual act,” Joan Illuzzi-Orbon, the lead prosecutor on the case, said. According to a law enforcement official, the housekeeper’s card-key data suggests she was in the room with Mr. Strauss-Kahn for no longer than 20 minutes.

Prosecutors may also suggest that surveillance footage of Mr. Strauss-Kahn leaving the hotel — he checked out at 12:28 p.m. — speaks in their favor. A prosecutor has said in court that Mr. Strauss-Kahn appeared to be in a hurry.

And although the accuser’s credibility has come into question, law enforcement officials have said that her account of what happened in the hotel suite has been largely consistent.

A Consensual Act

Mr. Strauss-Kahn’s lawyers have suggested in court that the encounter that he had with the housekeeper was consensual.

The piece of evidence that they might find the most compelling in making this argument is Mr. Strauss-Kahn’s body. After his arrest, he was taken for an examination at Kings County Hospital Center in Brooklyn. He did not have any physical injuries, according to two people briefed on the defense’s case, which his lawyers may use to suggest that there was no struggle.

The defense would also probably argue against a forcible encounter by pointing out that the woman is larger than Mr. Strauss-Kahn, though experts in sexual assault say that such an attack does not always require physical strength, a weapon or a struggle.

The woman’s actions after the encounter could also indicate a consensual act. According to a hospital report, the woman said that after the attack, Mr. Strauss-Kahn got dressed and “left the room, and that he said nothing to her during the incident.”

Defense lawyers may use that to suggest that the woman remained in the room during this time, something that a woman who was just attacked would seem unlikely to do.

Electronic card-key records show that after the encounter, the housekeeper left Room 2806 and entered Room 2820 — a sequence that differed from what she had told the police, and possibly more suggestive of a woman not under duress.

People familiar with the defense’s investigation would also focus on Mr. Strauss-Kahn’s actions after the encounter; they say that he had a leisurely lunch with his daughter at McCormick & Schmick’s Seafood Restaurant. If that is the case, defense lawyers would see if surveillance cameras at the restaurant captured that, and suggest that such behavior was not indicative of a man who had just committed a crime.

After the lunch, Mr. Strauss-Kahn told security personnel at the Sofitel that he believed he had lost his cellphone, and that he was at Kennedy Airport. His lawyers have said in court that if he had committed a sexual crime, he would not have volunteered his whereabouts.

A Misunderstanding

While both sides agree that a sexual encounter took place inside the hotel suite, one question is whether some misunderstanding between Mr. Strauss-Kahn and the housekeeper led to whatever transpired.

Under this theory, the oral sex began as a consensual act, but something later drove the housekeeper to press criminal charges.

All of the evidence that points to a consensual encounter would apply to this sequence of events. Any DNA evidence would be seen as inconclusive as to whether the sexual act was forced; the absence of injuries to Mr. Strauss-Kahn also would argue against an attack.

But to accept the encounter as truly consensual would require envisioning a 32-year-old woman spontaneously deciding to engage in oral sex with a man nearly twice her age whom she had never met before.

Defense lawyers are likely to question the woman’s motives by highlighting a recording of a conversation the woman had with a man in an Arizona jail about a day after she said she was attacked. The woman said something to the effect of, “Don’t worry, this guy has a lot of money. I know what I’m doing,” according to a law enforcement official. (The woman’s lawyer has disputed the translation.)

The woman’s movements after the encounter may also be a point of focus for the defense. While she originally told prosecutors that she waited in the hallway for Mr. Strauss-Kahn to leave, she later said that she cleaned a nearby room before re-entering Mr. Strauss-Kahn’s suite and reporting the attack to a supervisor.

The defense is likely to question why the woman returned to the suite before reporting the episode to her supervisor.

Card-key data shows that the woman first entered Mr. Strauss-Kahn’s room at 12:06 p.m. At 12:26, she entered a nearby room, 2820 — which she had cleaned earlier that morning — and returned to 2806, Mr. Strauss-Kahn’s room, in the same minute, according to her card-key information, a person who has seen the records said.

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anyone notice how the "misunderstanding" section doesn't actually mention what the misunderstanding might be? I assume they meant she thought she'd be paid?

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anyone notice how the "misunderstanding" section doesn't actually mention what the misunderstanding might be? I assume they meant she thought she'd be paid?


I mean, she claims he attacked her violently from the bathroom. I really don't see how misunderstanding can be one of the options.

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She thought he just wanted her to blow him...she didn't sign up for the ejaculation part, which accounts for the spitting...


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Yah, she was totally cool with the running-at-her-naked-from-bathroom part.

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Look at him...

Wouldn't you be???

I mean, if you were like a maid and stuff...


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I like the part where it says the maid is bigger than he is. Didn't see that one coming.

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I like the part where it says the maid is bigger than he is. Didn't see that one coming.

probably just wrestled him to the ground and fucked the shit of him... and the real story out of embaressment he was willfully raped

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I like the part where it says the maid is bigger than he is. Didn't see that one coming.

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lol... dignity


guess what? IM a bit tired of this whole scandal how about you? g2t?

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oh fuck off bateman. If you can't see the humor in posting a gif i have posted a million times actually being an oversized black maid... then you've totally lost touch.


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yah that was pretty funny

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I was laughing I thought this was old news. I thought it was funny g2t brought it up again. What you people arent mind readers around here? WTF?

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oh fuck off bateman. If you can't see the humor in posting a gif i have posted a million times actually being an oversized black maid... then you've totally lost touch.



Actually it wasn't directed at you mr kkk.


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Yah, he was prob upset at me for saying she's heavier than him.

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Patrick Bateman wrote:
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oh fuck off bateman. If you can't see the humor in posting a gif i have posted a million times actually being an oversized black maid... then you've totally lost touch.



Actually it wasn't directed at you mr kkk.


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