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knee tunes wrote:
But being serious, what I'm saying is that yes, evolution exists--obviously--but how or why it occurs or what is its driving force is still a mystery, isn't it?
You mean other than natural selection and genetic changes?
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But being serious, what I'm saying is that yes, evolution exists--obviously--but how or why it occurs or what is its driving force is still a mystery, isn't it?
You mean other than natural selection and genetic changes?
Hasn't there yet to be evidence of the first reproducing organism?
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I Hail Randy Moss wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
knee tunes wrote:
But being serious, what I'm saying is that yes, evolution exists--obviously--but how or why it occurs or what is its driving force is still a mystery, isn't it?
You mean other than natural selection and genetic changes?
Hasn't there yet to be evidence of the first reproducing organism?
I'm not sure what you mean, but my initial question is, what kind of evidence might exist for the first reproducing organism?
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Anyway, yes, some sort of God might be directing evolution (for that matter, so might some alien life form, or computer programmer), but evolution is a brutal and imperfect process that you wouldn't expect from any entity called God.
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But being serious, what I'm saying is that yes, evolution exists--obviously--but how or why it occurs or what is its driving force is still a mystery, isn't it?
You mean other than natural selection and genetic changes?
Hasn't there yet to be evidence of the first reproducing organism?
I'm not sure what you mean, but my initial question is, what kind of evidence might exist for the first reproducing organism?
I probably phrased it wrong. It was all questions from Antony Flew, the atheist turned believer. Of course he only turned into a believer because he was growing senile, as one Dawkin's enthusiast put it
Anyway, yes, some sort of God might be directing evolution (for that matter, so might some alien life form, or computer programmer), but evolution is a brutal and imperfect process that you wouldn't expect from any entity called God.
If God exists (or some guiding force), I don't expect Him or it to be very simple. Job ranted against God and his chaos and God told Job that he basically knew jack shit about how he operated. Now that's just the Bible, but it's a good example through a narrative.
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I Hail Randy Moss wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
I Hail Randy Moss wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
knee tunes wrote:
But being serious, what I'm saying is that yes, evolution exists--obviously--but how or why it occurs or what is its driving force is still a mystery, isn't it?
You mean other than natural selection and genetic changes?
Hasn't there yet to be evidence of the first reproducing organism?
I'm not sure what you mean, but my initial question is, what kind of evidence might exist for the first reproducing organism?
I probably phrased it wrong. It was all questions from Antony Flew, the atheist turned believer. Of course he only turned into a believer because he was growing senile, as one Dawkin's enthusiast put it
Anyway, yes, some sort of God might be directing evolution (for that matter, so might some alien life form, or computer programmer), but evolution is a brutal and imperfect process that you wouldn't expect from any entity called God.
If God exists (or some guiding force), I don't expect Him or it to be very simple. Job ranted against God and his chaos and God told Job that he basically knew jack shit about how he operated. Now that's just the Bible, but it's a good example through a narrative.
It's spelled G.O.B.
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corduroy_blazer wrote:
Anyway, yes, some sort of God might be directing evolution (for that matter, so might some alien life form, or computer programmer), but evolution is a brutal and imperfect process that you wouldn't expect from any entity called God.
I'd go with that but leaving viewing us an experiment aside, I definitely do think there's intelligent design in the universe. Sometimes I think our universe is just a tiny organism in a much bigger ones stomach, or Petrie dish, and our planet is just the most infintesimally small dust particle floating it it, and we as a species are a germ or bacteria attacking it. Or somethin.
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Saying there's an intelligent design to the universe seems so ridiculous to me. The reason why everything in the universe works so well together is because it has too. The rules that govern were forged through trial and error, if it wasn't so perfect it wouldn't exist.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
Saying there's an intelligent design to the universe seems so ridiculous to me. The reason why everything in the universe works so well together is because it has too. The rules that govern were forged through trial and error, if it wasn't so perfect it wouldn't exist.
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Skitch Patterson wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Saying there's an intelligent design to the universe seems so ridiculous to me. The reason why everything in the universe works so well together is because it has too. The rules that govern were forged through trial and error, if it wasn't so perfect it wouldn't exist.
explain pma
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corduroy_blazer wrote:
I Hail Randy Moss wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
knee tunes wrote:
But being serious, what I'm saying is that yes, evolution exists--obviously--but how or why it occurs or what is its driving force is still a mystery, isn't it?
You mean other than natural selection and genetic changes?
Hasn't there yet to be evidence of the first reproducing organism?
I'm not sure what you mean, but my initial question is, what kind of evidence might exist for the first reproducing organism?
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This type of shot is commonly referred to as a "God's Eye View" angle. The camera lens is perpendicular to the subject without any POV reference, which gives the viewer an omniscient viewpoint of the character and the surrounding space.
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EllisEamos wrote:
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This type of shot is commonly referred to as a "God's Eye View" angle. The camera lens is perpendicular to the subject without any POV reference, which gives the viewer an omniscient viewpoint of the character and the surrounding space.
Also known as "Frogger View"
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